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100 Sermon Illustrations on Compromise

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Compromise in Christian preaching warns against yielding to worldly influences or moral concessions that dilute faithfulness to God. It often uses contrasts between transformation and conformity, urging believers to remain steadfast and uncompromising in their loyalty to Christ and His truth (Romans 12:2; James 4:7).

Choice-Conformed or Transformed

Romans 12:2

Christians must choose transformation over worldly conformity to live God’s will.

"And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God" (Romans 12:2). When an individual or a congregation has the attitude of compromise in regard to spiritual values and truths, dark days are ahead. All who strive to be Christians feel a certain amount of pressure from the world. Through the strength that Christ gives, we can overcome the world and its temptations. A man starting a fish business put out his sign that read, "Fresh Fish For Sale Today" and invited all to visit his place of business on opening day. Many came and congratulated him on his new business, but one suggested that he change his sign. "Why the 'Today'? It is today." So he removed the "Today". Someone else said, "Why, 'For Sale'? Everybody knows you have fish for sale-or else why the store?" The words "For Sale" came off the sign. Another said, "Why the word 'Fresh'? You are a man of integrity, that guarantees your fish to be fresh." "Fresh" came off the sign. Only one word was left, "Fish" and one complained about it. "I smelled your fish two blocks away." The individual or congregation that tries to satisfy everybody ends up by pleasing nobody. If we start compromising, we will end up serving the devil. The man should have put up his sign and then stood by it. This is what we are to do in life. Accept God's will for our lives and stand on His promises. The Uncertain Soldier Paul Harvey tells the story of the uncertain soldier in our Civil War who, figuring to play it safe, dressed himself in a blue coat and gray pants and tiptoed out onto the field of battle. He got shot from both directions! The Bible is full of examples of individuals who compromised in one form or another and their ensuing losses. Lot who separated from Abram and moved as far as Sodom (Genesis 13:12-13; Gen. 19:1-29); Samson who compromised with Delilah (Judges 16:1-2); and Solomon who loved many foreign women (1 Kings 11:1-4) are but a few examples. What about times when we are tempted to compromise our faith or beliefs? Will we stay strong or try and wear the blue and gray? Think about it! "Finally, be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of His might" (Ephesians 6:10).

Don't Negotiate With Satan

Some spiritual battles require absolute loyalty without compromise.

A hunter raised his rifle and took careful aim at a large bear. When about to pull the trigger, the bear spoke in a soft soothing voice, "Isn't it better to talk than to shoot? What do you want? Let's negotiate the matter." Lowering his rifle, the hunter replied, "I want a fur coat." "Good," said the bear, "that is a negotiable question. I only want a full stomach, so let us negotiate a compromise." They sat down to negotiate and after a time the bear walked away alone. The negotiations had been successful. The bear had a full stomach, and the hunter had his fur coat! Satan says to you, "Let us negotiate." But there are some things that cannot be negotiable. We cannot compromise the church with the world. Christ and His church deserve our very best and utmost loyalty.

Getting along Famously

Some join churches for convenience, not genuine faith or commitment.

Many people today treat religion as a matter of convenience. They have to belong somewhere to be considered respectable. A clergyman once met an old schoolmate of whose activities he had long been ignorant, and finding him a judge of good standing congratulated him upon his success in life. As they were parting, the clergyman said to him, "And best of all, Judge, I find you are a member of our church." "Well," said the judge, "that's more a matter of chance than anything else. You see, when I was getting established in my profession, my wife and I thought we ought to join a church-it was the respectable thing to do. So, after mature deliberation, we settled down with a certain denomination and got on very well for a time; but they kept harping on faith, till we pretty soon discovered that they required more faith than we had; so it became necessary to make a change. We turned the matter over considerably and at last, for various reasons, made up our minds to join another denomination. Here we found the demand was work, work incessantly; and it was presently apparent that they demanded more work than we were able to perform. It was with great reluctance that we concluded that we must change again, and we cast about with much caution, that this move might be final. At last we decided to connect ourselves with your church, sir, and have gotten along famously ever since without either faith or works." A Sermon without the Gospel The story is told of three people who went into a church. The first was a business man who had failed and was contemplating suicide. The second was a prodigal youth, deep in sin, who was planning a robbery. The third was a young woman who was tempted to depart from the path of virtue. The service started. The choir arose and sang an anthem about building the walls of Zion. The minister addressed an eloquent prayer to the Lord and then preached on the theme, "Is Mars Inhabited?" Afterward, the businessman committed suicide, the boy stole and landed in jail, and the young woman began a life of moral shame. What might have happened if only the gospel of personal salvation in Christ had been preached! The Sermon's Omission Years ago it was the custom in a certain theological college for the student who had preached a sermon in class to go into the principal's office next morning for a quiet talk about his work. On one such occasion, the revered and saintly old principal said to the young man before him, "It was a good sermon you gave yesterday; the truth you dealt with was well-arranged and well presented. But your sermon had one omission, a grave one. There was no word in it for a poor sinner like me."

Love Them All?

Superficial preaching can lead to loving everything without true conviction.

A brilliant, liberal preacher pleasing his congregation with flowery phrases as he talked on the importance of breadth of view and the danger of bigoted opinions, was bidding farewell to them as he was about to leave for a new parish. A young man approached him and said, "Pastor, I am sorry we are losing you. Before you came, I did not care for God, man, or the devil, but through your delightful sermons I have learned to love them all!" Unfortunately, that is the kind of messengers many churches have.

Christian Union, Obstacles to

Minor differences can hinder Christian unity, yet worshiping Christ together remains essential.

I one day met one of the ten missionaries from America, and I asked him why he didn't belong to the great body of the American portion of the churches laboring in India. He replied that there were differences between them that could not admit of union. "Pray," I said, "what are these differences?"—"Well," he said, "there is one tremendous thing: they sing hymns." That is as worthy a man as lives, a most excellent man. I then asked if he would not, in consequence of those differences, worship Jesus Christ with them. "Yes," he replied, "under protest." I could not help saying that his was the worst Brahminism I had ever seen in India.

— Dr. McLeod

Dancing, Versus Slander

An aged minister preferred dancing over worse sins like drinking, gambling, or slander.

A lady who advocated dancing said to an aged minister of another denomination, "With all your objections to dancing, you will be obliged to admit, that it is not half so bad as to be in another room at an evening-party, drinking, or playing cards, or perhaps slandering one's neighbors." He replied, "I candidly confess that it is not half as bad as either of these; and if the members of your church are obliged to drink, gamble, slander their neighbors, or dance, I say, by all means, dance, or, which is still better, stay at home. As for ours, we are not obliged to do either."

from New Cyclopaedia of Prose Illustrations · Elon Foster holiness

Expediency, Emblem of

Like a barometer figure that hides in storms, some people shrink from faith under pressure.

Burgomeister Guericke constructed a gigantic barometer, with a tube thirty feet in height, part of which projected above the roof of his house, at Magdeburg. The index was the figure of a man, who, in fair weather, was seen standing full size above the roof; but, when a storm was brewing, he cautiously withdrew for security and shelter. Antitype of religionists and politicians! When the sun shines brightly, and the breezes scarcely breathe across the landscape, how erect and bold they look! But let the clouds gather, and the thunders mutter, and what a drawing-in of diminished heads! O rare, satirical Burgomeister! you must have had an alderman's experience. Dr. W. F. Warren.

from New Cyclopaedia of Prose Illustrations · Elon Foster hypocrisy

Expediency, Political

Inconsistent loyalties reveal the danger of compromise in faith and politics.

During the passage of the national troops through Missouri, in pursuit of Gen. Price, a crowd of negroes came out from a large house to see them; when the following colloquy took place: "Boys, are you all for the Union?"—"Oh, yes! massa: when you's about, we is."—"And when Price comes, you are secesh, are you?"—"Yes, massa: we good secesh then. Can't allow de white folks to git head niggers in dat way."

from New Cyclopaedia of Prose Illustrations · Elon Foster worldliness

Liberalism, Personified

Modern liberalism compromises truth by avoiding firm doctrinal commitments and controversy.

It was announced, some years ago, that old Bigotry was dead and fairly buried. I am sorry to be under the necessity of informing this audience, that it has been discovered, of late, that he left behind him an only child, a prodigal son, who is arrived at man's estate. This son is known by the name of Liberalism. Young Liberalism is the very antipodes of his old father. He is handsome, polite, insinuating, and, although somewhat superficial, possesses that polish and tact which impose upon general observers. He speaks all languages, subscribes to all creeds, holds a levee with all sects and parties, is friendly with everybody, but stands identified with nobody. He professes to abhor religious controversy, and disposes of all doctrinal questions by a motion of indefinite postponement. He can swallow the wafer with the Papist, receive the cup with the Protestant, and thrust the Westminster Confession and the Methodist Discipline into the same pocket. You can never find Liberalism at home, or, rather, "he is never at home but when from home." He sails all waters under all colors; he exhibits the papers of all nations; but he hails from no port; he charters to no country; and therefore we strongly suspect that he is, in reality, a pirate.

— G. C. Cookman

from New Cyclopaedia of Prose Illustrations · Elon Foster

Ministers, Hurling

Promotion-seeking ministers serve only as long as it benefits them, like hired servants.

As hired servants will tend men's sheep no longer than it is profitable to them, so is it with promotion-seeking ministers. Cawdray.

Religion, Neutrality in

Trying to serve both God and Satan results in losing both, like a mongrel eagle losing prey.

Pliny tells of a mongrel eagle, that has one foot like a goose for the water; and another natural, by which it seeks its prey in the air. It would seem to have the advantage of air and water; but it loses both. The common crow seizes upon it, and makes it an easy prey,—fit emblem of those who seek to serve both God and Satan.

Society, Selection of

Avoiding association with the wicked preserves your heart's love for God.

Reject the society of the vicious; slum the agreeable infidel and the accomplished profligate; lay it down as a fixed rule, that no brilliancy of connection, no allurement of rank or fashion, no agreeableness, no wit or flattery, shall tempt you to associate with profligate or openly irreligious men. Make this an absolute rule. It is impossible not to suffer by its neglect. If you do not fall into their vices, still your heart will be estranged from the love of God. Gresley.

from New Cyclopaedia of Prose Illustrations · Elon Foster

Compromise

Joshua 9

God's people must not compromise with enemies of His cause despite their antiquity claims.

God's people have often compromised with wily enemies of His cause, simply because they argued antiquity. Better to consult God's Word than compromise with any sect that plays the Gibconitish stratagem

Compromise, Refusing

Daniel 3

Obey God rather than man when commanded to disobey God, trusting Christ's presence.

Obey the powers that be until they require us to disobey and dishonor God (Rom. 13:1), then obey God rather than man (Acts 5:29). If called upon to pass through fire, Christ will be there with us. Nothing lost by being true to Him

Compromise, Refusing to

1 Samuel 11

God provides leaders so His people can trust Him and avoid worldly compromise.

God has given us a leader for every crisis, so it is not necessary for His people to compromise with the world, if they will trust Him. Through Christ our King we may have the victory

Conservatism, False

False conservatism resists change and clings to old ways, hindering spiritual progress.

There stands the false conservative, anchored to the past. Whatever is, for him, is right and good. He is constitutionally opposed to change. Wagon-wheels make a rut an inch deep across the prairie, but when this man is thirty he is in a rut up to his eyebrows. When he dies, at seventy, you can truly say, that his image is truth lying at the bottom of a well. He loves his father’s house because it is old; he loves old tools; old laws; old creeds. He stands at his gate, like an angry soldier, waving his hands and shouting warnings to all who approach. He has one injunction for every boy starting out to make his fortune: “Watch your anchor, my son; don’t cast off your moorings”; as if any Columbus, who spent all his time throwing out anchors, could ever have crossed the sea! As if any world voyage could be made by a captain who never dared cast off his moorings! In the Arabian tale, when the sheik was lost in the desert, he took off the bridle, and committed the camel to God and his own instincts, trusting the beast to find its way to the water springs. But if the old sheik had been a false conservative, he would first of all have staked the camel down by a lariat, and then committed himself to God, like these church dignitaries and councils that stake the religious or political thinker down by a lariat, which they then label in a humorous moment, “liberty of thought,” and having made progress impossible, they commit themselves to the care of the God of progress.

— N. D. HILLIS

Individualism, Excessive

Excessive individualism ignoring others' needs can lead to personal ruin and isolation.

Haydon, the painter, was an ill-used man; but it was purely his own fault. He would paint high art when people did not want it--would paint acres of hooked-nosed Romans, and bore the public with Dentatus, Scipio and Co., when they wanted something else. He was like a man taking beautiful pebbles to market when people wanted eggs, and telling that they ought not to want eggs, because they led to carnality and had a nasty and disgusting connection with bacon. But people would not have it--eggs they wanted, and eggs they would have, how beautiful soever the pebbles might be. So with Haydon. He persisted that the people ought to have what they did not want, and he went from a prison to a lunatic asylum, and died a suicide.

— GEORGE DAWSON

from Cyclopedia of Illustrations for Public Speakers · Robert Scott and William C. Stiles

Take A Stand For God

Robert Vernon, assistant chief of police of Los Angeles P.D., was attending a Raiders football game. After victory, mob tried to tear down goal posts. Beat up 2 private security men. Were going to rough up 2 policemen. Bob had left stadium, heard police call, went back with son. He was afraid to get involved because mob action is so unpredictable. People will do things in a mob they'd never do individually. Bob rationalized, then realized he had to step in. He addressed the crowd individually to get them to think. Very touchy situation. He credits God with turning the crowd around. He's a teaching elder in Grace Community Church, Sun Valley, California. He believes integrity is crucial to police work. Also believes Christians must be willing to take a stand for God. Saying "I am a Christian" takes courage.

from Christianity Today magazine via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database integritycourage

Wilberforce's Compromise

Acts 15:19

A great Christian statesman of a former day set us a beautiful example of the right kind of compromise. William Wilberforce was elected to the House of Commons in 1785. As an evangelical, he was unutterably opposed to slavery of any kind. For over 20 years he remained the parliamentary leader of the antislavery movement. He became convinced that the first step for which he could get support was the elimination of the slave trade. Many of his evangelical friends repudiated him because he settled for this half-way measure: He compromised. But in 1807, enough legislators agreed to join forces with him so as to abolish the slave trade throughout the British Empire. Through slavery continued, Wilberforce continued to work, bit by bit and with persistence and patience, to lead his nation to the abolition of slavery in any form.

He never lived to see the victory. One month after his death in 1833, Parliament finally abolished slavery throughout the entire British Empire. Had Wilberforce set his mind on the "quick fix" or had he not been willing to compromise in his battle against slavery, he would never have accomplished his goal or brought the blessings of human freedom to society. Evangelicals in the twentieth century could learn from his example.

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from Christianity Today magazine via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database patienceslavery

Realism Or Compromise?

Biola College is slipping, according to arch-fundamentalists. At a recent concert pagan-style dancing was reported. Fundamentalist preacher Dr. R. L. Hymers went and took pictures. When confronted, the university changed its student rules so students were not under the code on vacations. They called the action "realistic." School was started by R. A. Torrey.

from Biblical Evangelist · Dr. Robert Sumner via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database compromise

Attack of the Killer Bees

Bees are not native to America. They were brought by European settlers, called "white man's flies" by Indians. Brought to Ohio by hurricane in 1740's.

Killer bees will reach Texas by 1990. They have killed at least 350 people in Central and South America. Twenty to thirty swarms of Africanized bees accidentally released in Brazil in 1956. More defensive around hives and tend to attack more aggressively and pursue people. Inspired 1978 horror film, "The Swarm."

Scientists had assumed the Africanized bees would become Europeanized by mating the gentler variety, and thus lose their tendency to sting in potentially deadly swarms. But in a surprising finding, researchers report that the dilution of Africanized genes appears only to be temporary and the bees' genetic makeup eventually becomes almost purely Africanized again in the wild swarms that have spread up through Central America and Mexico.

Compare with sin, which cannot be diluted by goodness. Sin will win out and monopolize a person.

from Coshocton Tribune via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database sin

The Only Thing In the Middle of the Road

Winfred Moore, a “moderate” candidate in 1988 for Southern Baptist president, quoted his grandfather on compromise: “Son, there’s nothing in the middle of the road but a yellow line and dead possums.”

from Biblical Evangelist · Winfred Moore via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database

The High Ground

2 Corinthians 8:19

Recently, Karen and I had the chance to visit the Civil War battlefield at Vicksburg, Mississippi. I asked Karen if she had any firsthand memories of the war that she wanted to share with me, which almost started another battle at Vicksburg. Now, President Lincoln had called Vicksburg the “key” to the Confederacy and he told his generals, “We do not yet have the key in our pocket.” Standing on high cliffs overlooking the Mississippi, it was a daunting challenge for the Union Army. For more than a year there were bombardments from the river and from the many hills, numerous clashes on land and, at the end, a siege that actually drove Vickburg's residents to live in caves. Everywhere we drove, there were markers indicating Union and Confederate regiments that had battled it out for the hills all around the city. Some of the bloodiest fighting took place as Northern forces mounted bold attacks on the Southern strongholds atop the highest points. As in so many battles, the fight for the high ground helped determine the outcome of the battle.

Well, I'm Ron Hutchcraft and I want to have A Word With You today about “The High Ground.”

You can see it over and over in military history - he who holds the high ground often wins the battle. It's a principle that goes far beyond military engagements. It's a principle of winning in life - hold the high ground, whatever it takes.

That's why integrity is so important, and honesty, and purity, and transparency. That's the moral high ground - and the deciding factor in the blessing of Almighty God.

The Apostle Paul expresses - and actually models - this passion for holding the high ground in our word for today from the Word of God in 2 Corinthians 8:19-21. He's been collecting an offering from the churches to be given to the persecuted and impoverished believers in Jerusalem. He's explaining here the team he's assembled to take this money to Jerusalem. He says of Titus, “He was chosen by the churches to accompany us as we carry the offering.”

Then Paul explains why he's going to all this extra effort. “We want to avoid any criticism of the way we administer this liberal gift. For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of men.” Well, there's the high ground - taking pains to do what is right before both God and man. And frankly, sometimes doing what's right is a pain. It usually takes longer to do it right. It costs more to do it right, and it's harder to do it right. But it so worth it to have the full blessing of God? Will people always agree you're doing what's right? Not always - often because they don't have all the facts. But you need to know that the more people find out about what you're doing the better you will look. Nothing to hide!

The high road: submitting yourself, as the Bible says, “for the Lord's sake to every authority instituted by men.” (1 Peter 2:13) Never repaying anyone “evil for evil” but overcoming “evil with good.” (Romans 12:17, 21) No word games. No money games. No cutting corners on what is right in God's eyes. If the auditors never come to check, you can be sure that we'll all be audited by the Auditor who knows everything about us.

Maybe it's tempting to compromise, to take the easy road instead of the high road. But when you forfeit the high ground - however tempting it might seem to surrender - the battle starts to turn against you. Whatever it takes, whatever it costs - hold the high ground!

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Copyright © Ron Hutchcraft Ministries, Inc., PO Box 400, Harrison, AR 72602. Used by permission. Written by Ron Hutchcraft. "Practical Answers to Real Life Issues"

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from A Word With You by Ron Hutchcraft #4232 · Ron Hutchcraft via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database compromisereputation

You Are Right, You Are Right

A rabbinical student went to observe a renowned [famous] rabbi's counseling technique. "Rabbi, I am dumbfounded. When Mrs. Birnbaum came to you complaining about her husband, you listened. When she finished, you told her, 'I agree with you, Mrs. Birnbaum. Your husband is impossible, and you are doing everything expected of a wife.' This afternoon, Mr. Birnbaum came to see you and complained about his wife. You listened and told him, 'Mr. Birnbaum, you are right. You are married to an impossible woman. You are doing everything expected of a husband.'"

"That is ridiculous," the young man complained. "Either the husband or the wife has to be doing something wrong. They both can't be totally right!" The rabbi thought about the accusation as he stroked his beard. "You know, my son," the wise old fellow finally said, "you are right; you are right."

from Leadership, Spring 89 · R. Robert Cueni via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database ministry

Live Not By Lies!

John 1:14

Solzhenitsyn directly challenged the Soviet Orthodox hierarchs' longstanding reason for capitulating to the authorities:

"By what reasoning is it possible to convince oneself that the planned destruction of the spirit and body of the church under the guidance of atheists is the best way of preserving it? Preserving it for whom? Certainly not for Christ. Preserving it by what means? By falsehood? But after the falsehood by whose hands are the holy sacraments to be celebrated?"

Solzhenitsyn's advise can be summed up by his famous admonition: "Live not by lies!" He believes strongly that the moral corruption in Soviet society caused by widespread lying and deceit will be reversed only when each individual determines to live by the truth.

from The Puzzle Of The Soviet Church · Kent R. Hill via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database lyingcompromise

Who Are You? (Adapted From "Finding the Right Pastor")

Acts 15

How to identify where we are doctrinally in regard to compatibility:

1. Our Principles.

a. What doctrines are vital to us?

b. What doctrines can we live with, even if we don't hold them?

2. Our Preferences.

A fondly-held custom that is not, however, required by Scripture.

3. Our Prejudices.

Close to preferences. What we want to practice. (Xmas tree in church.)

4. Our Priorities.

Where are our emphases? Relative importance of our beliefs.

5. Our Peculiarities.

Areas that may defy rationality. "We've always done it this way."

from Bridging The Gap · William J. Allen via Kerux Sermon and Illustration Database prioritiescompromise

Selling Out the House of God?

Acts 2:41

Interview with Bill Hybels on the Willow Creek phenomenon:

WHEN WE TALKED TO THEOLOGIAN DAVID WELLS, HE CAME UP WITH THE FOLLOWING QUESTION AND ANALYSIS: "WHAT KIND OF CHRISTIAN FAITH WILL YOU PRESENT OR BE LEFT WITH IF YOU ARE OBSEQUIOUSLY PROSTRATING YOURSELF BEFORE BABY BOOMERS--A GENERALLY SELF-CENTERED, RELATIVISTIC, UNLOYAL GENERATION? YOU'RE GIVING THEM A CHRIST-CULTURE THEME THAT THEY CANNOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND, GIVEN THEIR INHERENT NATURE. WILLOW CREEK AND ITS CLONES VIEW ALL OF CULTURE AS HARMLESS AND NEUTRAL; THEREFORE, WHY NOT ADAPT THE CHRISTIAN FAITH TO IT? THE PROBLEM IS THAT CULTURE IS LADEN WITH VALUES THAT INEVITABLY GO AGAINST THE THRUST OF THE GOSPEL MESSAGE." HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND?

I think the values of our society are blatantly opposed to the values of Christ. But what we try to do at Willow Creek is say, "Come as you are. Come with your BMW and your Rolex, because even though you have caved in to the values of this sick culture, you still matter to God." And when they confess their sins and see what Christ did for them at the Cross, we begin a very aggressive value-transformation program that will not stop until they go to their graves.

HOW DO YOU MOVE A PERSON FROM A CONSUMER ORIENTATION OF FULFILLING FELT NEEDS TO A CHRISTIAN FOCUS ON SELF-DENIAL?

Through teaching, prayer, fellowship, service, discipleship, mentoring, discipline. Through all the means of grace that people have been using for 2,000 years. This isn't the first culture that's been sick. What has the church been doing for 2,000 years? It's been taking people out of a sick culture, leading them to Jesus, and then trying to inculcate his values in them.

John Seel, the author of "Evangelical Forfeit," presented us with this concern: "If you convert a person under the seeker-sensitive philosophy, how does that affect their spiritual maturity and the nature of their discipleship?" In other words, does the seeker-sensitive church's brand of discipleship inhibit the spiritual development of its members?

I don't think Willow Creek is cranking out believers who aren't maturing in their Faith. I would stack the committed core of Willow Creek against that of any church, because they not only have a growing understanding of the facts of the faith, but they also have hearts that are hurting for the lost and the poor and suffering.

We have a bench out in our lobby called the fool's bench. It got its name because sometimes when our people invite their friends to a service, they stand out in the lobby waiting for them to come. Sometimes they are still standing out there 15 minutes into the service. And their friends don't show up. They're heartbroken because they've been praying for their boss, and he said he was going to come, but he didn't show. This goes on every week at this church. That's the stuff that doesn't get attention.

We get press about our buildings, about our budgets, about our drama--but what the spotlight ought to be on is the fact that we gave away 85 vehicles to single moms last year; that we feed 350 people a month with our food pantry; that we just gave a quarter of a million dollars to our local benevolence ministries. These are the real signs that Christ is being honored in the church, and the spotlight has not been on them.

MANY CRITICS HAVE OBSERVED THAT YOUR CHURCH IS MADE UP OF WHITE, AFFLUENT SUBURBANITES--A HOMOGENEOUS PEOPLE GROUP. HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR THE CHURCH'S SUCCESS FOR IT TO BE HOMOGENEOUS?

Willow Creek is almost an exact representation of our community's demography, so we are not intentionally homogeneous. It's a function of where we are. We want to be as inclusive and as integrated as we can possibly be.

DO YOU ENDORSE THE IDEA CALLED THE "HOMOGENEOUS-UNIT PRINCIPLE" IN CHURCH-GROWTH CIRCLES?

I never have. I think a church ought to reflect its neighborhood. If the neighborhood is diverse, I hope the church would be. If the neighborhood is not diverse, it's pretty hard for a church to be.

JOHN PERKINS AND OTHER LEADERS OF THE CHURCH'S RACIAL-RECONCILIATION MOVEMENT SAY THAT BECAUSE OF LONG-STANDING RACIAL BARRIERS IN OUR SOCIETY, ONE OF THE MARKS OF TRUE FAITH TODAY WOULD BE TO GO BEYOND LOCAL DEMOGRAPHICS AND TO BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT RACIAL DIVERSITY.

Periodically we meet with some of the minority groups from our church, and we say, "How do you feel? Are we doing enough? Can you help us understand how we can be a more racially and ethnically diverse congregation?" But we have not come up with initiatives that we think would be effective. So, we're interested, but we're frustrated with our ineffectiveness.

IN HIS BOOK "SELLING JESUS," DOUG WEBSTER QUOTES YOU AS SAYING, "GENERALLY A PASTOR CAN DEFINE HIS APPROPRIATE TARGET AUDIENCE BY DETERMINING WITH WHOM HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEND A VACATION OR AN AFTERNOON OF RECREATION." THAT PHILOSOPHY SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD LEAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT.

What I was trying to say was that, beyond our broad calling, it's fairly common for people to have a passion for a particular people group. The example I always turn to is the apostle Paul, who had a passion for planting churches among the Gentiles. Similarly, there are some who feel called to Generation X or to inner-city crowds or to the international student population.

ISN'T IT A PROBLEM, THOUGH, THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING UP WITH THE SAME CALLING: TO WHITE, AFFLUENT, SUBURBAN BABY BOOMERS?

So are you saying that pastors are deceived--that they're not really authentically seeking God--or are you blaming God for the way God is leading those people?

IT SEEMS THAT NUMBERS PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE SEEKER-SENSITIVE MOVEMENT. CAN A SMALL CHURCH OF 100 BE SEEKER-SENSITIVE?

Absolutely.

DO YOU MEASURE YOUR EFFECTIVENESS IN PART BY NUMERICAL GROWTH?

It would be one aspect, but certainly not the most important. What we're about as a church is biblical values. We're always monitoring the values.

LET'S SAY YOU DECIDE TO DO A SERIES OF MESSAGES THAT PRESENT THE TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL WITH A STERN, NO-NONSENSE APPROACH. YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE MESSAGES AND PLAN TO DO THEM FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, BUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS INTO THEM YOU REALIZE ATTENDANCE IS GOING DOWN ON A REGULAR BASIS. WHAT DO YOU DO?

Easy answer: We keep going. We've done it in the past. If the values are right, we believe in the long run God will honor what we're doing.

MANY PASTORS RAISE THE CONCERN THAT THE SEEKER-SENSITIVE AND MEGACHURCH MOVEMENT CREATES A JOB FEW CAN DO SUCCESSFULLY--THAT IT WILL INEVITABLY BURN YOU OUT.

It is demanding. It necessitates the move toward team ministry, which flies in the face of entrepreneurial, autocratic, one-man-show types. The kind of person who likes the challenge of planting a church like Willow Creek tends to be a self-starter, a freethinking, risk-taking individual. That person can get one up and going, but keeping it going is almost sure to ruin him; there's too much to pay attention to.

ARE YOU SPEAKING AUTOBIOGRAPHICALLY?

It's been well-documented that in 1989 I almost became unglued emotionally because of the stresses associated with leading this ministry. I was 38 years old and had been an evangelical Christian most of my life and had never heard of the term that's now known worldwide-- team teaching.

That was a novel idea to me, so I went to a bunch of people and asked them about it. They said it would destroy my church. One guy said to me, "Bill, you've almost killed yourself for 15 years building this great church. If you move to team teaching, you'll watch it disintegrate right in front of your eyes." And I said, "I'm already disintegrating right in front of my eyes." So we moved to team teaching.

We've been at it for five years now, and our people would never want to go back to solo teaching. They enjoy hearing the Word of God through different voice boxes.

THE SEEKER CHURCH HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF MINIMIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF FORMAL THEOLOGICAL EDUCATION. SOME CLAIM THEY'VE HEARD YOU SAY QUITTING SEMINARY WAS ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS YOU EVER MADE.

I don't recall ever having said that. I quite often say that I feel handicapped that I did not finish seminary. When young men or women come to me and say, "I think I want to be a teacher someday in the kingdom of God, should I hang in with seminary?" I say, By all means.

SOME CHARGE THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY ATTRACTING SEEKERS BUT DISENCHANTED CHRISTIANS FROM OTHER CHURCHES.

That's not true. We've never changed our orientation, which is toward nonchurched people.

WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOURSELF AS ANTIDENOMINATIONAL?

No. I would say I'm adenominational. I just don't think it's the wave of the future. I see very little loyalty to denominations anymore, especially among nonchurched people.

SINCE YOU ARE "ADENOMINATIONAL," HOW DO YOU HANDLE TRICKY DOCTRINAL ISSUES, LIKE THE CHARISMATIC GIFTS OR MODE OF BAPTISM?

Our elders just study the Scriptures, led by the Holy Spirit. Sometimes we seek counsel from the outside. We'll call in different theologians and have them sit with us and mentor us in a topic. But in the final analysis, our elders will make that call.

ANOTHER CRITICISM OF THE SEEKER MOVEMENT IS THAT IT DEVALUES THE SACRAMENTS.

The Scriptures say, "Believe and be baptized." So if you become a recipient of amazing grace and haven't obeyed the Lord in this, we ask you why not? We have baptisms twice a year and Communion once a month at our believers' service.

IF YOU COULD SAY ANYTHING TO THE LEADERS OF OTHER SEEKER-ORIENTED CHURCHES, WHAT WOULD IT BE?

I would just tell them to preach the Scriptures unapologetically, to hold very close to the Acts 2 definition of a biblically functioning community, and to concentrate more on being the church than building great buildings.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MINISTRY OF BILL HYBELS AND WILLOW CREEK COMMUNITY CHURCH IS SAYING TO THE CHURCH AS A WHOLE?

I think what I'm trying to help the body of Christ understand, if I can be so presumptuous is 1 Corinthians 12, where it says there is one Spirit, but many ministries. I have never contended that every church should be a Willow Creek. I think that would be a travesty. But I think there needs to be some Willow Creek-style churches around the country and around the world, because God is pleased to reach some of the lost through them.

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Copyright (c) 1994 Christianity Today, Inc./CHRISTIANITY TODAY Magazine

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In Reluctant Praise of Extremism

John 2:17

Barry Goldwater's infamous line defines extremism:

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice and ...

moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."

Operation Rescue is a modern form of extremism. Abolition is an older form. They were all-or-nothing, refused compromise, and took dramatic steps to bring the issue before the nation. Abraham Lincoln was not an extremist or an abolitionist. To abolitionists, slavery was not an unfortunate and outmoded institution - it was sin.

The language of sin is extreme language. As William Lloyd Garrison put it famously in the first issue of his newspaper, "The Liberator":

On this subject, I do not wish to think, or speak, or write, with

moderation. No! no! Tell a man whose house is on fire to give a

moderate alarm; tell him to moderately rescue his wife from the

hands of a ravisher; tell the mother to gradually extricate her

babe from the fire into which it has fallen - but urge me not to

use moderation in a cause like the present. I am in earnest - I

will not equivocate - I will not excuse - I will not retreat a

single inch - AND I WILL BE HEARD.

Garrison was usually not this tame. He burned the Constitution on the Fourth of July. Theodore Weld was proudly known as "the most mobbed man in America." Abolitionists never gained a majority. The more they argued, the more intransigent Southerners became. When abolitionism began in 1830, many Southerners thought slavery was wrong; a few years later abolitionists would be run out or killed. Abolitionism destroyed dialogue.

America was founded on compromise, but abolitionism would not allow it. Thirty years later, after a war, slavery ceased. Some historians discount the role of abolitionism, but without it the sense of urgency to do something about slavery disappears. The hope of moderates who chose against extremism is that sense and good will can prevail. But such progress is not always certain. (Compare Nazi Germany and South Africa.)

Current times tempt people to extremism. But extremism carries costs. A good many evangelical prohibitionists lost their faith. Some were disappointed in the church's mealy-mouthed response to their cause. As institutions, churches were quite timid. And many abolitionists became so caught up in the antislavery cause they gradually they substituted the cause for Christ. They experienced a lifetime of frustration and the final victory - by war - dealt a hard blow to Finney's optimistic theology. Faith linked too closely to a cause, and without an adequate respect for the gravity of sin, is vulnerable.

"The blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church," wrote Tertullian, but martyrdom takes discernment and courage. Bonhoeffer and Luther were extremists. Peace generally goes with purity (though not always).

You do not choose extremism because you admire its tactics; you choose extremism because you feel you have no choice. For each of us, a time and an issue may come that calls us to extremes. Haunted by the ambiguity of the situation, mindful of the costs, I pray that I will hear and heed that call.

Compromise Or Consensus?

Acts 15:1

Sermon in Acts series. Jerusalem Council Acts 15:22-33

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COMPROMISE OR CONSENSUS?

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I. Conflict is a fact of life.

II. Principles cannot be compromised.

A. Issue in Acts 15 is the basis of salvation. Acts 15:1,5

B. Background in book of Galatians. Gal 2:12f

C. There can be no compromise on Christian principles.

III. Preferences should be settled by consensus.

A. Not every issue is worth dying for.

B. The church made its decision together.

C. The restrictions were reasonable. Acts 15:20

D. Sensitivity is important.

IV. Priorities must be kept focused.

A. We must know what we are fighting for.

B. Areas where the church must take a stand today:

1) Godly lifestyles.

2) Sanctity of life.

3) Objective truth of God's Word.

C. In all things practice love.

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What's His Angle?

John 18

Sermon in John series. Pilate. John 18-19

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WHAT'S HIS ANGLE?

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I. Plotting to please.

A. You can't please everyone.

B. Pilate was a people-pleaser.

C. Will we please Jesus?

II. Pilate's character.

A. Ingrained attitude of contempt. 18:35

B. Expedient: he tried to wheedle out of dilemma four ways.

C. Worldly, short-sighted perspective. 18:38

III. The courage to make the right decision and do the right thing.

A. Pilate doesn't come across as hostile, but wishy-washy.

B. Ended up known as one who would not stand up for truth.

IV. What Jesus is all about.

A. Truth is essential.

B. Don't compromise. Please God, not people. Galatians 1:10

C. Jesus' kingdom has different standards.

D. Christians must have a different lifestyle, in a good way.

V. Jesus really is a king.

A. World has power to harm, but Jesus has ultimate power. 19:11

B. As you confront Jesus, what is your decision about him?

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Days of Deception

Sermon in King David series. David with Achish, and in Ziklag. 27,29,30

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DAYS OF DECEPTION

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I. What do you do when everything is pressing in on you?

II. Every solution - but God. 1 Sam 27:1-7

A. Humanistic, pressimistic, rationalistic. 27:1

B. There is a way that seems right to a man... Prov 14:12

III. The devious scheme. 27:2-4

A. David and his men move their families to Gath in Philistia.

B. Finessing the dilemma.

C. A consequence of the scheme.

IV. Compromise always bears a price.

A. The adversary's cause was adopted. 27:5

B. David becomes duplicious and a liar. 27:10

C. He becomes vague. 27:10

D. He becomes spiritually ineffective.

V. The hustler gets hustled. 1 Sam 29

A. David may think he is making a fool of Achish, but in end,

B. Only resistance of enemy generals saves David's hide. 29:1-7

C. Compromise crumbles. 1 Sam 29-30

VI. David hits bottom, and turns back up to God.

A. "But David found strength in the Lord his God." 30:6

B. What will it take for us to turn back to God?

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Voting For Less Evil: Why Vote For the Imperfect?

What would it take to get you to the polls tomorrow? Will you get out and vote or stay home waiting for the perfect candidate?

I’m asking because I’ve just been reviewing a survey of voting by Christians in the 2000 election. And, even though I’ve seen the results before, I’m appalled at the apparent apathy by the very citizens who ought to be the most morally concerned citizens in our country.

Among those identifying themselves as Christians, only 50 percent were registered to vote in 2000. Worse, only half of those Christians who were registered actually went to the polls. That means only one Christian in four voted!

Meanwhile, some races were won by margins of only ninety votes. The voters in one congregation could have made the difference.

So why don’t Christians vote? Father Frank Pavone, co-founder of Priests for Life, answers that some religious leaders are telling people not to vote! He explains, "Some Christians feel it is more righteous not to vote when the slate of candidates isn’t that great. They feel compromised, dirty, or even sinful by casting a ballot for someone with whom they disagree."

But how long will you have to wait to find a candidate whose position is identical to yours on every issue? By that standard, would you even be able to vote for your spouse?

Pavone continues, "When you are faced with two candidates, neither of whom is perfect, ... but one of whom is clearly closer in his or her convictions to the Gospel than any other, it is perfectly legitimate to vote for the better one." Government is God’s ordained instrument for restraining evil and sin. If one would do a better job, we’re bound to vote for that person.

But isn’t that a vote for "the lesser of two evils"? No. Pavone replies, "One is choosing a good - [that is] the reduction ... of an existing evil." What some would call a vote for "the lesser of two evils" is really a vote to lessen evil.

One of the most clear-cut examples is abortion. In numerous races, one candidate wants to maintain unrestricted access to abortion while the other is pro-abortion, but wants some restrictions. I prefer, of course, a pro-lifer with no reservations. But a vote for the candidate advocating restrictions is a vote for less evil.

Yet if there is no candidate who promises to eliminate all abortions immediately-a position not likely to pass in Congress anyhow-some voters stay home on Election Day. The result? A candidate who could have moved the issue in the right direction loses by default, and the out-and-out pro-choicer wins-not good.

Father Pavone calls the vote "a practical exercise in leadership, by which we do our part to put people into office who can make some improvement in our country’s policies ... [n]obody is morally bound to what is impossible, and it is perfectly legitimate to recognize the limits of what is possible."

No candidate is perfect. Even if the vote in some states seems to be for the lesser of two evils, cast your vote to bring about less evil. Our concern should be to make our community and our nation more moral than it is. And we do that by electing candidates who, as God’s magistrates, reduce evil.

A vote that helps reduce evil may not be perfect, but it is a good vote.

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Copyright © 2002 Prison Fellowship Ministries. Reprinted with permission. "BreakPoint with Chuck Colson" is a radio ministry of Prison Fellowship Ministries.

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Access God's Power, Author Says, By Getting Rid of 'Bits of Baal'

Gaining access to the power of God is critical for anyone who wants to avoid physical, emotional and especially spiritual exhaustion.

That’s according to a new book titled “Battle Fatigue,” released by the Baptist Sunday School Board’s Broadman & Holman Publishers.

Written by Joe B. Brown, pastor of Hickory Grove Baptist Church, Charlotte, N.C., the book warns readers Christians will not be able to access God’s power if they hold on to “bits of Baal.”

Referring to Baal -- a pagan god mentioned in the Old Testament -- Brown writes, “We must remove all false gods from our lives, those things that we thought would bring the rain but could not because they are powerless.”

He lists five “bits of Baal” that may hinder a Christian’s access to the power of God:

1) Ambition to achieve fame, success or glory -- no matter what the cost to one’s spiritual life: “It involves replacing God with your own ego and self-will.”

2) Unholy desires: “Ask yourself this question, ‘What is it that I want that God doesn’t want for me?’”

3) Memories of the past: “Is there anything in your life that you cannot let go of? Does your mind carry you back to an event and hold you captive there day after day? If you spend too much time and energy there, it can become a Baal.”

4) Unhealthy relationships: “There are people in our lives who try to draw us away from our power source, directing us toward a path that leads away from God, not toward him. Be careful not to let unhealthy relationships become a Baal.”

5) Business activities and recreational endeavors: “It has well been said, ‘We worship our work, we work at our play and we play at our worship.’ If we expend more energy making a living and entertaining ourselves than building a relationship with God, we have created a Baal in our lives.”

Copyright (c) 1995 Baptist Press

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Baptist Press: Alcohol, Drugs, Cult Left Him In Need of A Savior

Acts 4:12

John Cox has experienced the darker side of life. From alcohol to drugs to cults, Cox knows what it's like.

Raised in Texas, Cox went to First Baptist Church of Chico as a boy. During an altar call in one service, Cox's two brothers went forward. He said he felt a physical hand pushing him down the aisle as well.

The pastor told the boys they would be baptized the following week and instructed them to wear the appropriate clothing. “I thought it was going to be a swimming party or something,” Cox said. “I had no idea what was going on.”

What was going on, Cox said, was absolutely nothing. He was not saved at the time, and as he became a teenager he got involved with what everyone else in his small town was doing - drinking, partying, drugs, etc.

“I remember just going wild and kind of losing all respect for anybody,” Cox said.

As he got older, Cox's girlfriend, Sandee (who is now his wife and mother of their five kids), got involved in some eastern meditation and other cult activity. He and Sandee then moved to Memphis to go through a six-week training course of another cult, The Way International.

Cox recalled how members of The Way would witness to people in bars. The only problem was they sat and drank with them while they were witnessing. That bothered Cox, who, although not a Christian, had a respect for God and his Word. “I knew the Bible was not to be refuted,” he said. “Deep in my soul, I knew the Bible was the first and last word.”

He thought, “If God is God, he's separate from this lifestyle. He's not like me.”

Cult members didn't believe in the Trinity and they took a black marker to any passage in Scripture they didn't believe. “You'd look at their Bibles and maybe 2 or 3 percent of it would be marked out,” Cox said.

At the time, his experience with The Way wasn't all that frightening. “We were kind of going along with the flow. We were oblivious to a lot of it,” Cox said. “Now that I look back on it, it was really creepy. ...

“A lot of the practices they did were out of whack,” Cox said. “They would get in our face and, kind of like a drill sergeant, would invoke us into speaking in tongues. They would yell at us and intimidate us until we spoke in tongues.”

But God was working on John and Sandee - even working through members of The Way. “They had some semblance of the truth - that we are sinners,” Cox said. “God is so faithful. He let the good things stick.

“The good thing that stuck was that I was a sinner in need of a Savior. I didn't really know that before I got in there. Good came out of it.”

Cox soon started to read the Bible for himself. “It was like drawing from a deep well,” he said. “A couple of months after I picked the Bible up, I started repenting of things.”

He and Sandee, who were living together but weren't married, fell under conviction about that. They left The Way, hitchhiked back to Texas, got married and were baptized together.

“We were delivered from smoking, drinking and drugs - totally set free,” Cox said. “No rehabilitation, no withdrawals, no nothing.”

The new Christian recording artist with his debut album, “Sunny Day,” knows about the life-transforming power of the God who saved him. Now Cox, with a record contract on Questar Mission's label, and an upcoming spring concert tour with legendary Christian rock group Petra, has a platform to share his testimony.

“The cool thing about being a Christian is if the world were to crack open, and there we would be falling down into the abyss, I have the faith and hope that God is going to reach down with his hand and catch me and say, 'You're coming with me,'“ Cox said. “That is so awesome. I can't lose.”

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Cheating and Chastity

Amos 8:5

Young people are going to do it and there is nothing you or I can do to stop them. As a result, we should instruct them in a way that is amoral, how to do it responsibly. This represents the current conventional wisdom in approaching young people about unmarried sex. It is said to be the only rational and common sense approach to the issue. Anyone suggesting an abstinence message is scoffed at and branded puritanical at best and an irresponsible fool at worst.

It is interesting to note that the "we can't do anything about it" approach is only taken in regard to sex. All other serious issues facing young people are approached in a much more legalistic fashion. Although teens have historically engaged in a variety of risky behaviors with potentially negative consequences, sex is the only activity we surrender to.

Cheating, for instance, is an activity that high school and college students have engaged since chalk was invented. Several recent studies indicate that the deceptive practice is on the rise. With increased competition for admission into top colleges and graduate schools, some students give in to the pressure and cheat. They plagiarize, share answers, steal tests, buy term papers and/or utilize cheat sheets all in an effort to obtain an eye-popping G.P.A.

Students are going to cheat and nothing that can be done about it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is simply foolish and/or living on another planet. I propose that we take the same conventional "common sense" approach that is currently utilized in reference to unmarried sex and apply it to cheating.

Classes should be introduced and students instructed in the pros and cons of cheating. A variety of effective study methods should be presented and the virtues of each extolled. Care must be taken so this instruction is accomplished in an amoral way. Students should not be given the impression that cheating is somehow inherently wrong while choosing to be studious is virtuous.

Since there will be those who are going to cheat, no matter how much they are told that by choosing to cheat they are only cheating themselves, there should be instruction on how to cheat effectively and discreetly. However, information alone will not be enough. In order to insure that we do not stigmatize those who choose to cheat, an area must be set up where a student can have access to the best in cheat sheets and plagiarized papers. Cheating paraphernalia must be dispensed discreetly and without cost. There should be no barriers to keep students from cheating once they determine that is what they truly want to do.

If a student chooses to access the cheating materials, should the school tell the parents? Of course not! If parents were to find out, they might overreact. They might even revert to the Stone Age practice of grounding the student. Many parents don't realize that just because a student experiments with cheating once or twice it doesn't mean they are cheaters. Who knows, in experiencing cheating a student might realize that he or she is not really ready for the emotional consequences of cheating and will return to studying.

When you apply the current conventional wisdom used in approaching the subject of unmarried sex with people to any other subject -- like cheating, alcohol, drugs or tobacco you see just how foolish it really is.

Any behavior that has the real potential of adversely altering a student's life should be discouraged rather than encouraged. Will we ever stop all students from engaging in unmarried sex -- or cheating? No. There will always be some who will embrace that which is harmful. However, that is no justification for waving the white flag of surrender. All I am saying is give virtue a chance.

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Has My Adultery Been Set Up By God?

Last evening an officer in our church shared with me that he is having a significant struggle in his marriage. He has been sharing with me for some time that there are problems and he doesn't think that it is right for him to endure constant condemnation. As a result he prayed and told God that he has had enough of the marriage and he is wondering if there is someone more suitable for him. He asked God to show him someone if there is someone better out there. Lo and behold, as he went to the food store, there was a woman he had been thinking about and hadn't seen in a while. They stood and talked with one another and he was surprised at how much he had in common with her, and not his own wife. He said to me, do you think this is a message from God?

After we talked and shared some more about the many other issues his thinking posed I said, I would answer his question. I said, "I know that you are not going to like this, but I think you have been 'hearing' Satan and not God." God has given him this partner and other than abuse or adultery, I see no grounds for him to leave his wife for someone else. Yes, she may have many problems, but another problem, divorce and remarriage, will not solve anything.

A member of my church tells me a story of a man who had recently moved to town and asked his neighbor, "What are the people like here?" The neighbor responded, "What were the people like where you were?" The new resident responded, "The people were good." The neighbor said, "They are good here, too." The new resident asked, "What if I said that the people where I was were bad?" The neighbor said, "I would have said, "They are bad here, too."

Sometimes we look upon others to blame them for our experiences when really it is just us who need to change. The man in the case study needs significant change. He has distorted thinking about what is right and wrong. He is obsessed on his desire for "greener grass." He is a candidate for reparative therapy. Too bad it is banned by the American Psychological Association as malpractice. This man could use a good therapist.

The bottom line, be gentle and honest about where he needs to be and that he needs professional help.

Jerry Feulmer

knia1stbapt@lisco.com

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Drugs and Jesus

Ezra 6:21

A real-life testimony of a severely compromised Christian who was not accommodated by a church, but confronted with love.

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Leon Hebrink was raised in a Dutch Reformed home that went "Pentecostal" in the early 70's during a charismatic renewal of sorts. When Leon was 14 his family moved to an Assembly of God Church. Leon was baptized as a believer at age 15 and spent the next three years traveling as a youth evangelist and "Athlete with a witness."

He went to a Christian college and was introduced to drugs and alcohol in the "Football Dorm." Leon loved it and went whole hog into the debauchery of a Jock lifestyle. For sometime he tried to keep one foot in both worlds. Church on Sunday, Bible Study on Wednesday and party, party, party the rest of the time.

After a failed marriage and a shot at a teaching and coaching career Leon continued to waver back and forth in his faith. He made one attempt to reenter the church but was kicked out of the Sunday School Class he was teaching when the Elders found out Leon was divorced. While teaching and coaching at the same Christian college Leon had attended he grew very cynical with the frauds on campus who put up a "holier than thou" facade while living like hell under cover of secrecy. Leon got an opportunity to manage a sports bar that also booked Rock and Blues bands. He jumped at it and thumbed his nose at the church and the college.

Leon spent about five years riding the wave of wealth, drugs, and women, all the while witnessing to people about the reality of Christ, God's Word, and the Gospel. He still rejected the church or any Christian institution but told many people about Jesus over a glass of scotch and a line of coke. His life was a mess.

About 5:00 a.m. one morning Leon looked in the mirror while trying to scratch one more spoon full of coke out of his vial. This was after a 3 day "bender." What he saw looking back at him was a dead man. He knew he was dead spiritually and he sensed he would soon be dead physically either from drugs or guns. Leon decided to move far away from anyone he knew and seek a teaching job. In a matter of a few months he was teaching physical education in Miami, Florida, of all places. A drug dealing bar manager living in Miami in the mid-80's - what a hoot!

The first part of his return journey was primarily back to physical health. Leon ran along the ocean and hit the gym regularly, lost 70 pounds and made some huge lifestyle changes. Then he had to work up enough courage to step into a church. This was hard and he bounced around a lot from church to church and meeting to meeting. Leon was usually in some church 2 or 3 times a week but seldom in the same one more than twice.

At 4:00 a.m. one morning the Lord spoke to him as clear as could be. "Leon, where have you been? What about the call you answered when you were 14? Will you still serve me?" Leon thought, no way, God could never use me now. The sweet spirit of the Lord convinced him that God can and would forgive him as well as use him to work in His Kingdom.

It all just about blew up in his face when Leon faced the scrutiny of a seminary admissions board who had seen him on TV ads for his bars just a couple years earlier. Leon was also turned away at the first few churches he visited. Then along came the pastor of First Baptist Church. The message was loud and clear: "We love you, God loves you, repent and come back home." After discipling with him for a few months the pastor offered Leon a ministry position at the church and the rest is history. Now ten years later Leon is the Senior Pastor of First Baptist Church in Lansing, Michigan.

God did indeed work a miracle in his life. He praises God someone finally refused to soft-sell him on the truth or accommodate his sin. In his ten years of ministry Leon has seen God work miracles like his over and over again. The world really doesn't want to be excused or accommodated, it wants the truth.

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In a discussion on September 5, 1999, on whether churches should accept active homosexuals into full fellowship, Leon responded, "When I was living a life of drugs, sex, and violence while running a chain of night clubs nobody from the church welcomed and affirmed my lifestyle as an alternative choice. Nobody from the church dismissed my lifestyle with 'soul freedom' or 'individual faith journey' cliches. The clear message an American Baptist church and pastor gave me was, 'We love you, God loves you, repent and come back home.' If we cannot stand firm on the Word of God and speak the truth in love our denomination will decay and die. Sadly, many of those who cry 'the sky is falling' are those who want us to crawl in bed with Jezebel."

Politician on drinking

A Congressman was once asked about his attitude toward whiskey. He said, "If

you mean the demonic drink that poisons the mind, pollutes the body, desecrates family life, and inflames sinners, then I'm against it. Yes sir re!

But if you mean the elixir of Christmas cheer, the shield against winter chill, the taxable potion that puts needed funds into public coffers to comfort little crippled children, then I'm for it. This is my position, and I will not compromise."

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Don't compromise

Winter was coming on and a hunter went out into the forest to shoot a bear, out of which he planned to make a warm coat. By and by he saw a big bear coming toward him and raised his gun and took aim. "Wait," said the bear, "why do you want to shoot me?" "Because I am cold," said the hunter, "and I need a coat." "But I am hungry," the bear replied, "so maybe if we just talk this over a little, we could come to a compromise." So the hunter sat down beside the bear and began to talk over the pros and cons. In the end, the hunter was well enveloped with the bear's fur and the bear and had eaten his dinner.

Peaceful Coexistence?

James 4:4

The story is told of a Russian named Ivanovich who visited the Moscow zoo for the first time. To his amazement, he found a little lamb sharing the cage with a big fierce bear.

Ivanovich expressed surprise to his guide. The guide smiled and said, “That is peaceful coexistence.”

When Ivanovich shook his head in a doubtful way, the guide explained, “Of course, we have to put in a fresh lamb every morning.”

As much as we should strive for peace, there are some things which simply cannot coexist peacefully -- truth and error, righteousness and ungodliness, morality and immorality.

If we try to combine two such things in our lives, they will only coexist “peacefully” only if one gobbles up the other. That’s why James was so forceful in his warning:

“You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world

is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend

of the world makes himself an enemy of God.” (James 4:4, NASB)

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This reminds me of a

Russian named Ivanovich who visited the Moscow Zoo for

the first time. To his amazement he found a little lamb sharing the

cage that

held a big fierce bear. Ivanovich expressed surprise to his communist

guide.

The guide smiled and said, "That is peaceful coexistence." When

Ivanovich

doubtfully shook his head, the guide reluctantly went on to explain

"Of

course, we have to put in a fresh lamb every morning." You see

peaceful

coexistence between right and wrong, God and the devil is not

possible. You

must learn to whom to say "No."

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- James Story tells about

going to a new parsonage and finding many cans of

old paint in the garage, but not enough to do any one job. So he

mixed them

all together and came up with "Preacher gray." Perhaps this is

ecumenicalism.

all mixed together make no real color useful for anything. especially

ecumenical doctrinal toleration

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I really got a scare

once. I was stopped at a red light, next to me was a

cement mixer. It was just barely creeping forward, and when I noticed

the

movement, I immediately jammed on the brakes thinking I was rolling

backward.

It was quite frightening. I should have kept my eyes straight ahead

instead

of on my neighbor.

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Ed Says No To A Million Dollars

Ed was a motion picture producer who had finished his most recent film. During the next year as every independent film producer does, he had been working hard to try to sell his picture to one of the majors. Being unsuccessful in his attempts to sell the majors, he had then approached many of the minor motion picture distribution companies. He had finally aroused some interest in a smaller motion picture distribution company and had arranged for a showing of his picture to their top executives.

At the conclusion of the showing, the president of the motion picture distribution company turned to Ed and said, "There is nothing particularly wrong with your picture. The story is all right, the quality is fine, the acting is acceptable, but if it is going to be a money maker there are three changes that need to be made. There are three different locations in your film where we need add sex scenes so that the picture will have some kind of box office appeal. With the addition of these three scenes, we can assure you of a million dollars in profit for your share of what this picture will gross when released by us."

Ed needed to make a sale badly because of the current conditions in his own company, but he responded by saying, "Thank you for looking at my film. I appreciate your taking time to consider this as one of your projects for distribution, but I am sorry that we will not be able to make the changes that you have suggested." Ed knew to whom to say "No."

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Living Dogs Or Dead Lions?

The early 1st century Christian were offered their lives if they would but cast a touch of incense on the fire that burned before the image of the Emperor. A very small gesture of political support compared with being fed to the loins or being burned at the stake. They could have argued that they could do more good by living than by dying. “He who fights and runs away, will live to fight another day. Better a live dog than a dead lion.” But, when men catch a glimpse of the face of God, they do not fear the face of man!

-- W. A. Criswell, DANIEL, Vol 12, p. 109

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A Lad's Courage To Say No

A young Italian lad, who had gone far in the ways of sin, was converted. He turned right-about-face. A Chautauqua came to town. He purchased a ticket. A magician furnished the entertainment one evening. He needed a helper, and the lad volunteered. Presently the magician produced a deck of cards and asked the lad to cut the deck. He said, "No, I will not touch them; never again." "Oh," said the magician, "they will not hurt you. I am not asking you to play cards, bet, or anything like that. Use your head. Don't be a fool. I cannot do this trick if you do not cooperate." There they stood before a large audience. The elite of the town was there. What would you have done under the circumstances? The lad said: No, I will not touch those cards. They almost ruined my life." The magician threw up his hands, and the audience burst out in prolonged applause. Do you have the courage to say no?

--Christian Union Herald

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Standing Against the Tide

Psalms 4:5

For many years, our family had been going to Ocean City, New Jersey, for vacations and conferences. It has a three-mile boardwalk, great Atlantic beaches, and a family atmosphere. Well, those are all things that we can all get excited about, but something happened over those years at the beach. The beach shrank. Well, not all at once; a little at a time. It just got eroded. Eventually, the city fathers had a major challenge on their hands - to rebuild their bread-and-butter - those beaches that were slowly disappearing!

I'm Ron Hutchcraft and I want to have A Word With You today about “Standing Against The Tide.”

Some great places have been really damaged by the slow process of erosion. So have some great people. That's why you've got to make the choices that will stop the erosion in your life.

And we've all got a powerful example for that in our word for today from the Word of God in the Book of Daniel, chapter 1, beginning with verse 5. Daniel is one of a handful of promising Jewish young men who have been taken to Babylon after King Nebuchadnezzar's invasion of their land. The king includes them with some of his own Babylonian “first-round draft picks” in a leadership development program that will ultimately propel them to greatness in the kingdom.

Everything was fine until the king, “assigned a daily amount of food and wine from the king's table.” This was a special “training table diet” designed to make them into the best physical specimens possible. But that kind of food was totally out of bounds for Jews back then, as defined by the laws of their God. Tough choice here. You're on your way to greatness, and right here at the beginning you're being asked to compromise a little. At stake could be your whole future - maybe even your life if you defied the most powerful man in the world.

But the Bible says, “Daniel resolved not to defile himself with the royal food and wine, and he asked the chief official for permission not to defile himself this way. Now God had caused the official to show favor and sympathy to Daniel.” This official was afraid he might be executed if Daniel and his Jewish comrades ended up looking worse than the others. So Daniel persuaded him to allow a ten-day test of an alternate diet of vegetables and water. Long story short, Daniel and company, the Bible says, “looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food,” and “the king found none equal to Daniel” and his friends.

Now, God may be asking you to risk everything right now on what looks like a very expensive faithfulness. It could really cost you to do what's right, to hold to your convictions, to refuse to compromise your integrity or your purity. You're risking everything on the faithfulness of your God. It's tempting to give in to get ahead ... to get that need met ... to get out of that jam. But with your compromise goes a huge piece of you and the blessing of Almighty God. Resist that eroding tide.

And remember that God's favor is for God's faithful. You may, like Daniel, find yourself in different environments, pressured by different expectations, but you've got to be sure that it's always the same you! You have to “resolve not to defile yourself” - to build an uncompromising wall against even the first step that would take you outside the ways of your God.

In the words of Psalm 4:5, “Offer right sacrifices, and trust in the Lord.” In other words, do what's right - even if it's a sacrifice - and trust the Lord for what happens after that. His greatest rewards are reserved for those who will not betray Him, even for another king. Erosion will take what you cannot afford to lose. Stand against that temptation, stand against the tide, and let God give you what you could never have any other way.

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End, Means, and Acts 4:18-20

Acts 4:18

My Source: NORTH MARSHALL MESSENGER

Volume 5, #20, 19 March 2000

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END, MEANS, and ACTS 4:18-20

by David Lemmons

In Acts 4:18-20, we find a situation in which the apostles have been warned not to teach in the name of Christ. We also have the reaction of the apostles to that ungodly charge. Their reaction was that they would obey God rather than man. Listen to Luke's words…

Acts 4:18 (KJS) And they called them, and commanded

them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

19 But Peter and John answered and said unto them,

Whether it be right in the sight of God to hearken unto

you more than unto God, judge ye. 20 For we cannot

but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

Now we have used this account often to emphasize that even though in normal situations we should submit to the civil government (cf., Romans 13), there would be occasions in which it would not be possible so to do. If a government enacts laws that cause us to disobey God, then we ought to obey God, rather than man.

I have recently read an account in the newspaper in which I honestly feel this principle has been violated. Contrary to the ideas of some of my brethren, I do not scour the newspapers feverishly searching for indications of the compromising ways of my brethren. However, when something pops into my view that is so blatantly contrary to my understanding of what the church of my Lord is all about, I conscientiously have no other option but to speak out against it. I am a gospel preacher and when something is represented in a public forum which is contrary to the teaching of Scripture, which causes people to have a perverted view of the church, I must speak out!

Perhaps many of you have read in Friday's PADUCAH SUN, the article with the headline: "Globe-trotting Grand Rivers Pastor Enjoyed Vietnam Trip." I have not the space to comment on the unscriptural use of the words "pastor" and "Reverend," in this article, but there was something in that report of an interview with brother Ken Wilson that I must address.

First, I have nothing at all against Ken Wilson. He has not harmed me personally and I have considered him a friend for quite some time. I have attended special lectures on evidences and gospel meetings at the Grand Rivers church. Ken is one of very few preachers in the county who ever attended any of our Berean School in the fall. When I heard the TV account of him being missing, or at least no one having heard from him, I was just as concerned as anyone else about him. I am thankful that he returned safely from his trip to Vietnam. I love Ken, but I believe that Ken has compromised the truth by the advice he has given brethren in Vietnam.

Second, I have contacted Ken about this article and he has confirmed the facts that were reported in the newspaper. To his credit, he did express displeasure with misuse of the words "pastor" and "reverend," and indicated he would be careful to insist upon proper usage in any succeeding interviews he grants. I know it is always the case that reporters outside the church misuse terms.

The problem part of the article is the advice Ken gave to brethren in Vietnam. The article points out that the Vietnamese government allows only one Protestant organization, "The Christian Missionary Alliance," to assemble legally and own property. Ken, himself, uses the term denomination to describe this group. He says that the government will allow you to meet and have Bible studies in your home if you are a "faithful" member of that denomination. Further he says, "We have advised Christians there to do that." His reasoning in the matter is also given: "You either do that or meet in your home and not be a member and be subject to arrest." That statement suggests to me a type of reasoning which is very dangerous. It suggests to me that if you have a good END (i.e., Bible study) that the MEANS (i.e., meeting with a denomination) is not significant. We still need the authority of Christ for all we do (Colossians 3:17).

By Email to me, Ken indicated that the definition of "faithful" by the government means assembling at least one time per month. Now I suppose if the government decides to revise its definition of faithfulness to weekly assembling that the same reasoning that justifies the monthly assembling would justify weekly.

My problem is that there is no scriptural authority to assemble with a man-made denomination and be considered faithful to it. It is not possible to do that and at the same time be faithful to the Lord. God is a JEALOUS God and He demands our complete allegiance (Exodus 20:5). We are to be "faithful unto death" (Revelation 2:10). We are to rejoice in suffering (1 Peter 2:19-24). Who is to say that it is an impossibility for brethren to refuse this restriction of the Vietnam government and continue on faithfully to serve the Lord? I know of many parts of the world where it is not legal to assemble as Christians, yet small numbers continue to do so.

I fear that this principle of END JUSTIFIES MEANS will bring about much compromise with error and it is sad to me that our brethren are using it today.

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I'd Rather Carry His Head Home

Mrs. John Welch, daughter of John Knox, partook of her father’s spirit. Her husband was imprisoned for his faith, and was severly stricken with tuberculosis, when she made her way before King James to plead for his release.

“I will send him home with you,” said the king, “if you will persuade him to submit to the bishops.”

Holding out her apron, she said, “Please, your majesty, I’d rather carry his head home there, than tempt him to sin against his conscience.”

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He Wouldn't Repeat the Prayer

Mark 12:14

In his autobiography, "Donahue," Phil Donahue, shares an experience from Holden, West Virginia. He and a CBS television crew had gone to this Appalachian community to cover rescue attempts of thirty-eight miners. They had planned to be there one night but stayed three, eating doughnuts and drinking Red Cross coffee in bitterly cold weather.

At last the rescue teams emerged, covered with soot and grime, weary beyond words. Relatives of the miners were waiting in the snow. Gathered around a smudge pot, a preacher said, "Dear God, let us pray." They joined hands and sang, "What a Friend We Have In Jesus." Donahue says it gave him goose bumps. It was beautiful! He knew it would make a great film for CBS, but the camera was frozen; by the time it was warmed up, the service was over. At 2:30 in the morning, Donahue approached the pastor with a request.

"Reverend, I am from CBS News. Would you please go back through your prayer again? We have 206 television stations across the country who will hear you pray for these miners."

The humble minister looked at him and said, "Son, I just couldn't do it. I have already prayed to my God, and any further praying at this time would be wrong. No sir, I just can't do it."

Donahue was shocked that anyone would turn down a chance to be on CBS News. At last he made his way to a pay telephone to report to New York: "The _____ won't pray!"

Donahue claims that the preacher's stand was the greatest demonstration of moral courage he has ever encountered. The man would not "show biz" for Jesus. He would not sell his soul - not even to CBS. Donahue says he often thinks of that preacher and than night. "I don't know where he is now, but if he isn't going to Heaven, no one is."

-- Phil Donahue & Co., "Donahue" (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1979) 66-67

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