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Hebrews 12:8
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God Disciplines His Sons
7Endure suffering as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?8If you do not experience discipline like everyone else, then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.9Furthermore, we have all had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we respected them. Should we not much more submit to the Father of our spirits and live?
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- Adam Clarke
- Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
- John Gill
Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
Then are ye bastards - This proceeds on the general fact, that bastards are neglected in their manners and education; the fathers of such, feeling little affection for, or obligation to regard, their spurious issue. But all that are legitimate children are partakers of chastisement or discipline; for the original word παιδεια does not imply stripes and punishments, but the whole discipline of a child, both at home and at school.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
if ye be without--excluded from participation in chastisement, and wishing to be so. all--all sons: all the worthies enumerated in the eleventh chapter: all the witnesses (Heb 12:1). are--Greek, "have been made." then are ye bastards--of whom their fathers take no care whether they are educated or not; whereas every right-minded father is concerned for the moral well-being of his legitimate son. "Since then not to be chastised is a mark of bastardy, we ought [not to refuse, but] rejoice in chastisement, as a mark of our genuine sonship" [CHRYSOSTOM].
John Gill Bible Commentary
But if ye be without chastisement,.... Or have no affliction: whereof all are partakers; that is, all the children of God; they are all alike children; they are all in a state of imperfection, and prone to sin; God has an impartial respect unto them: and though they are not all alike chastened, nor chastened at all times, yet none are exempted from chastisement, but have it in some way or another, and at some time or another. Then are ye bastards, and not sons; all are not sons that are under a profession of religion; all that are under a profession of religion are not chastised; but then those are not the children of God, but the children of the world, of Satan, and of the antichristian harlot; for though all that are chastised are not children, yet all that are children are chastised: hence we learn, that outward peace and prosperity is not a note of a true church; and that such have reason to distrust their state, who know not what it is to have the chastising rod of God upon them; and that afflictions are rather arguments for than against sonship.
Hebrews 12:8
God Disciplines His Sons
7Endure suffering as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?8If you do not experience discipline like everyone else, then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.9Furthermore, we have all had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we respected them. Should we not much more submit to the Father of our spirits and live?
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(True Disciple Conference) We Have Forgotten That the Way Is Narrow
By Paul Washer15K1:08:41Narrow WayMAT 7:13MAT 7:16MAT 7:20MAT 7:24HEB 12:8In this sermon, the preacher emphasizes the importance of building one's life on the Word of God. He challenges the common misconception that building on the sand represents a weak Christian life, while building on the rock represents a strong Christian life. Instead, he explains that those who hear and obey Jesus' teachings are like the man who builds his house on the rock, and they will stand firm in the face of God's judgment. On the other hand, those who hear but ignore Jesus' teachings will be destroyed when God's judgment comes. The preacher also highlights the need to discern true believers by their fruits, as Jesus taught, rather than relying on mere professions of faith.
The Heavenly Calling - Part 1
By T. Austin-Sparks1.8K51:26Heavenly CallingLUK 5:7HEB 1:9HEB 2:14HEB 3:1HEB 3:14HEB 6:4HEB 12:8In this sermon, the speaker emphasizes the importance of the ministry being focused on bringing glory to the Lord Jesus. The speaker explains that while the ministry involves work and instruction in the things of the Lord, it is also a time for encouragement and spiritual growth. The sermon then delves into the book of Hebrews, highlighting the idea of believers being companions of Christ and holding fast to their faith. The speaker also discusses the overarching purpose of God throughout the Bible, emphasizing that God works in relation to his Son and his purpose will ultimately be realized.
Sleeping Virgin - Fleshly Achievements
By Milton Green1.4K07:12MAT 6:33JHN 14:15ROM 12:22CO 6:14EPH 4:22HEB 12:81JN 1:9In this sermon, the preacher emphasizes the importance of living a righteous life and letting one's light shine. He warns against perverting the truths of the Bible and indulging in fleshly achievements. The preacher also highlights the significance of receiving discipline from God, as it distinguishes true sons of God from illegitimate children. He encourages the congregation to confess their sins and rely on the blood of Jesus for forgiveness, emphasizing the need to believe in the nature of God rather than the nature of Satan.
Gospel Does: Makes You Holy if Your Heart Is Changed
By Milton Green1.4K03:43EXO 19:6MAT 6:33JHN 1:14JHN 14:30ROM 10:10HEB 12:8In this sermon, the preacher emphasizes the importance of repentance and holiness in the lives of believers. He highlights the need for a change of heart and a sincere confession of sins. The preacher also discusses the consequences of not receiving discipline from God, stating that it signifies being illegitimate children and not true sons of God. He encourages the audience to align their hearts with the nature of God and to reject the misleading traditions that have been passed down to them.
Religious Hell
By Sammy Allen1.3K1:04:06PSA 119:105JHN 3:6JHN 6:63EPH 2:8HEB 12:8JAS 1:261JN 2:12In this sermon, the preacher poses six questions to determine if someone has truly been born again. The questions include whether the Holy Spirit lives in them, if they have become a new creature, if they love the brethren and the church, if they love the word of God, and if they experience chastisement when they do wrong. The preacher references Hebrews 12:8, which states that those without chastisement are not true sons. He also shares personal anecdotes about individuals who made professions of faith and the importance of preaching on specific topics, such as sin and hail. The sermon concludes with a call for preachers to stand up.
Salvation Is Due to Jesus Christ - Part 2
By Milton Green1.1K11:24JHN 15:13GAL 5:24EPH 5:27EPH 6:1HEB 12:8JAS 4:8In this sermon, the preacher emphasizes the importance of living according to God's word and not pleasing our fleshly desires. He warns that Jesus is coming and will bring rewards or destruction based on our deeds. The preacher also highlights the significance of knowing and obeying God's law, as it reveals sin and the judgment and wrath of God. He emphasizes the need for discipline and repentance, stating that without discipline, we are considered illegitimate children in the eyes of God. The sermon encourages listeners to love the Lord with all their hearts and allow the Word of God to transform their lives.
Looking Unto Jesus
By Anton Bosch46450:14JesusGEN 12:1GEN 25:29MAT 6:33HEB 12:1HEB 12:5HEB 12:8HEB 12:11In this sermon, the speaker emphasizes the importance of discipline and endurance in the Christian life. He compares the dedication and perseverance of Olympic athletes to the race that believers are running for an enduring crown. The speaker also highlights the need to keep our focus on the goal and not become discouraged or overwhelmed by the challenges we face. He shares a personal story of hiking in the mountains, where they had to rely on one flashlight and a rope to navigate safely, illustrating the importance of following the leader. Overall, the message encourages believers to stay disciplined, keep their eyes on Jesus, and remember the joy and reward that awaits them in the end.
The Warfare
By T. Austin-Sparks0Spiritual WarfarePerseverance in FaithDEU 23:3NEH 2:10NEH 4:2NEH 6:11MAT 16:22JHN 11:48GAL 4:29EPH 6:11EPH 6:18HEB 12:8T. Austin-Sparks discusses 'The Warfare', emphasizing the unique and intense spiritual conflict associated with fulfilling God's ultimate purpose. He illustrates this through the opposition faced by Nehemiah in rebuilding the wall of Jerusalem, highlighting the various forms of antagonism from figures like Sanballat, Tobiah, and Geshem, who represent a blend of superstition, false religion, and carnal interests. Sparks points out that true opposition often arises not from the world, but from within the church, where individuals may profess faith yet resist the fullness of God's purpose. He stresses the importance of watchfulness and intelligent prayer in overcoming these challenges, as the enemy seeks to thwart God's work through various tactics such as intimidation, misrepresentation, and discouragement. Ultimately, the sermon calls believers to remain steadfast in their mission, recognizing the spiritual warfare that accompanies the pursuit of God's calling.
(The Lord and His Church) 10. the Proud Church
By Zac Poonen0LEV 6:13MAT 13:44MAT 21:31LUK 11:24LUK 18:9JHN 13:35COL 1:172TI 2:12HEB 12:82PE 2:21REV 3:14Zac Poonen preaches about the church in Laodicea, highlighting the dangers of being lukewarm in faith, neither fully committed nor completely worldly. He emphasizes the importance of being on fire for God, fervently loving others, and avoiding spiritual deadness and self-righteousness. Poonen urges believers to repent, be zealous, and open their hearts to Jesus, who offers redemption and spiritual riches to those willing to pay the price of surrender. He reminds listeners that discipline from the Lord is a sign of His love and calls for wholehearted repentance and overcoming the world, just as Jesus did.
The Comforting Rod
By Thomas Watson0PSA 23:4PSA 119:50ISA 61:3HOS 14:82CO 4:172CO 7:2HEB 12:8REV 3:19Thomas Watson preaches on the comforting aspects of God's rod and staff as highlighted in Psalms 23:4. He explains that God's rod can be seen as a destroying rod upon His enemies, a pastoral rod guiding His sheep, and a disciplining rod for His children. Watson emphasizes that God's rod, even in affliction, provides comfort through instruction, a token of God's love, a means to bring us to glory, and as a way to make us better. He challenges the congregation to not be dejected in affliction but to seek comfort and growth in God's discipline.
Xiv. to Lady Kenmure
By Samuel Rutherford0PSA 133:1PRO 3:18JHN 15:4JHN 20:29HEB 12:8Samuel Rutherford, a prisoner of Christ, writes a letter filled with grace, mercy, and peace to a lady, encouraging her to continue learning and growing in her faith despite her troubles. He assures her that Christ is keeping mercy for her and urges her to love Him dearly, emphasizing that there is more to be seen and felt in Him. Rutherford expresses his longing to hear about the lady's child and sends blessings and mercies from God to the child.
A Christless Pentecost
By David Wilkerson0LUK 5:7JHN 2:23JHN 8:31HEB 1:9HEB 3:1HEB 3:14HEB 6:4HEB 12:8HEB 13:20The preacher delves into the term 'partakers' (metochos) in the Bible, emphasizing the concept of sharing in common blessings and being companions or accomplices in a spiritual enterprise. The sermon explores how believers can be participators in the Holy Spirit's work before salvation, highlighting the importance of responding to His drawing power and leading towards faith. The preacher addresses the question of whether a truly saved person can fall away, emphasizing the need for perseverance in the faith as proof of genuine salvation. The sermon also touches on the significance of tasting the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, pointing out that miracles alone do not save people, as seen in various biblical examples.
The Blessedness of Divine Chastening
By J.C. Philpot0JOB 33:19PSA 94:12PSA 119:97ISA 26:20MAT 5:3JHN 16:15ROM 8:2HEB 12:8JAS 1:25J.C. Philpot preaches about the true blessedness declared by God's word, contrasting it with the worldly views of happiness. He emphasizes that blessedness is found in being poor in spirit, mourning, meek, hungering for righteousness, merciful, and pure in heart. Philpot explains that God chastens and teaches His children out of His law to bring them true blessedness and rest from days of adversity, while the ungodly are heedlessly led to their doom, like wild beasts falling into a hidden pit prepared for them.
- Adam Clarke
- Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
- John Gill
Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
Then are ye bastards - This proceeds on the general fact, that bastards are neglected in their manners and education; the fathers of such, feeling little affection for, or obligation to regard, their spurious issue. But all that are legitimate children are partakers of chastisement or discipline; for the original word παιδεια does not imply stripes and punishments, but the whole discipline of a child, both at home and at school.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
if ye be without--excluded from participation in chastisement, and wishing to be so. all--all sons: all the worthies enumerated in the eleventh chapter: all the witnesses (Heb 12:1). are--Greek, "have been made." then are ye bastards--of whom their fathers take no care whether they are educated or not; whereas every right-minded father is concerned for the moral well-being of his legitimate son. "Since then not to be chastised is a mark of bastardy, we ought [not to refuse, but] rejoice in chastisement, as a mark of our genuine sonship" [CHRYSOSTOM].
John Gill Bible Commentary
But if ye be without chastisement,.... Or have no affliction: whereof all are partakers; that is, all the children of God; they are all alike children; they are all in a state of imperfection, and prone to sin; God has an impartial respect unto them: and though they are not all alike chastened, nor chastened at all times, yet none are exempted from chastisement, but have it in some way or another, and at some time or another. Then are ye bastards, and not sons; all are not sons that are under a profession of religion; all that are under a profession of religion are not chastised; but then those are not the children of God, but the children of the world, of Satan, and of the antichristian harlot; for though all that are chastised are not children, yet all that are children are chastised: hence we learn, that outward peace and prosperity is not a note of a true church; and that such have reason to distrust their state, who know not what it is to have the chastising rod of God upon them; and that afflictions are rather arguments for than against sonship.