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Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
We have had fathers of our flesh - The fathers of our flesh, i.e. our natural parents, were correctors; and we reverenced them, notwithstanding their corrections often arose from whim or caprice: but shall we not rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits; to him from whom we have received both body and soul; who is our Creator, Preserver, and Supporter; to whom both we and our parents owe our life and our blessings; and who corrects us only for our profit; that we may live and be partakers of his holiness? The apostle in asking, Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? alludes to the punishment of the stubborn and rebellious son, Deu 21:18-21 : "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; then shall his father and mother lay hold on him and bring him to the elders of the city, and they shall say, This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice: and all the men of the city shall stone him with stones that he Die." Had he been subject to his earthly parents, he would have lived; because not subject, he dies. If we be subject to our heavenly Father, we shall Live, and be partakers of his holiness; if not, we shall Die, and be treated as bastards and not sons. This is the sum of the apostle's meaning; and the fact and the law to which he alludes.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
fathers . . . which corrected us--rather as Greek, "We had the fathers of our flesh as correctors." subjection--See the punishment of insubordination, Deu 21:18. Father of spirits--contrasted with "the fathers of our flesh." "Generation by men is carnal, by God is spiritual" [BENGEL]. As "Father of spirits," He is both the Originator, and the Providential and Gracious Sustainer, at once of animal and spiritual life. Compare "and LIVE," namely, spiritually; also Heb 12:10, "that we might be partakers of His holiness" (Pe2 1:4). God is a spirit Himself, and the Creator of spirits like Himself, in contrast to men who are flesh, and the progenitors of flesh (Joh 3:6). Jesus our pattern "learned obedience" experimentally by suffering (Heb 5:8). and live--and so, thereby live spiritually and eternally.
John Gill Bible Commentary
Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh,.... Earthly parents; who are so called, because they are the immediate causes and instruments of the generation of their children, and of their fleshly bodies and worldly beings; and to distinguish them from the Father of spirits: and this shows, that they have not the spirit or soul from them, only the flesh or body, and which is frail and corrupt; and therefore goes by this name. Which corrected us; early, and at proper seasons, in love, and for instruction, and to prevent ruin, and death: and we gave them reverence; by submitting to their correction, and hearkening to it; by taking shame to themselves, and acknowledging the offence committed; by retaining the same affection for them; and, by a carefulness not to offend for the future. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? that is, to God, who is so called; not because he is the Creator of angels, who are spirits; but because he is the Creator of the souls of men; the soul is the more noble and excellent part of man: it bears a resemblance to God; it is, the life of man, and is immortal; it is exceeding precious, and the redemption of it; this was at first immediately created by God; and he still continues to create souls, which he preserves in their being, and has the power of saving and destroying them. Besides, God may be so called, because he is the author and donor of all spiritual gifts, and particularly of regenerating grace; it is he who renews a right spirit in them, and puts a new spirit into them: now such ought to be in "subjection" to him; not only as creatures to a Creator, and as subjects to their prince: but as children to a father, and particularly to him, as and when correcting; they should bow to his sovereignty, resign to his will, be humble under his mighty hand, be still and quiet, and bear all patiently; the advantage arising from such a subjection is life: "and live"; or "that ye may live"; or "and ye shall live": more comfortably, and more to the glory of God, in communion and fellowship with him here, and in heaven to all eternity.
Tyndale Open Study Notes
12:9 The author argues from lesser to greater (see study note on 9:14). Here, the lesser situation is the respect shown to an earthly father when he is giving discipline. We should submit even more to the discipline of the Father of our spirits in the more important context of our relationship with God. We should adopt a posture of yielding to God as to a good Father, trusting that he is helping us grow even through painful circumstances.
Hebrews 12:9
God Disciplines His Sons
8If you do not experience discipline like everyone else, then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.9Furthermore, we have all had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we respected them. Should we not much more submit to the Father of our spirits and live?
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Spiritual Olympics
By Leonard Ravenhill8.0K44:44Christian WalkPRO 3:11MAT 6:33ROM 8:28ROM 8:32HEB 11:37HEB 12:6HEB 12:9In this sermon, the preacher discusses the story of the prodigal son and relates it to the journey of a Christian. He emphasizes the importance of patience and endurance in the Christian walk, comparing it to a race. The preacher highlights that receiving a reward or recognition quickly does not necessarily indicate true value or maturity. He also emphasizes that it takes time and refinement from God to develop a person into a strong and faithful servant.
Disciplines to Maturity
By J. Oswald Sanders4.0K45:44MaturityHEB 12:5HEB 12:9In this sermon, the preacher discusses the mysterious ways in which God works and how we should trust in His grace rather than relying on our own understanding. He uses examples from the Bible, such as the experiences of James and Peter, to illustrate how God's plans may not always align with our desires or expectations. The preacher emphasizes the importance of having faith and seeking God's will, even in times of disappointment or inequality. Ultimately, he encourages listeners to worship and trust in the sweet will of God, knowing that He has a purpose for every situation.
A Son That Brings Shame
By Keith Daniel8021:39:25Christian LifeEXO 20:12LEV 19:3DEU 5:16PRO 19:13MAT 6:33HEB 12:7HEB 12:9In this sermon, the speaker shares his experiences of preaching the word of God and traveling across the nation. He recalls a powerful encounter with a man who commended him for fearlessly preaching the unadulterated word of God. The speaker also mentions witnessing the devastation of families who have lost their children and how they turn to the words of Job in their grief. He shares a story of a man who wrote a heartfelt letter to his parents, seeking forgiveness and reconciliation, and how his parents had been praying for him daily, not knowing if he was alive or dead.
An Hour With Norman Grubb
By Norman Grubb2355:00Life in ChristSelf-Giving LoveMAT 22:39JHN 3:16JHN 14:6ROM 5:51CO 12:12GAL 2:20COL 3:11HEB 12:91JN 4:161JN 4:19Norman Grubb explores the profound questions of life: what it is, how to live it, and why we live it, emphasizing that true humanity is found in self-forgetfulness and spontaneous expressions of God's love. He asserts that Jesus Christ is the embodiment of life and love, and that our existence is meant to be a reflection of God's self-giving nature. Grubb highlights the importance of recognizing our relationship with God as one of union, where we live not for ourselves but for others, embodying the love that God has poured into our hearts. He concludes that the essence of Christianity is not about self-improvement but about allowing God to live through us, transforming our lives into expressions of His love.
Epistle 49
By George Fox0Living in God's LightUnity in FaithLUK 1:33JHN 3:19ACT 15:9ROM 14:171CO 14:33EPH 1:13EPH 4:7HEB 12:9George Fox emphasizes the importance of living in the life and power of God, which teaches self-denial and keeps believers from strife and deceit. He encourages the faithful to remain in the light, where actions can be judged by the pure spirit, and to cultivate a deep fear of the Lord that leads to love and unity among one another. Fox warns against confusion and actions contrary to the light, urging believers to serve diligently and to wait for the power of God to transform their earthly nature. He reassures them that through faith and the spirit of promise, they can witness the eternal kingdom of God filled with love, joy, and peace. Ultimately, he calls for unity and growth in God's grace as they gather together in His name.
Epistle 178
By George Fox0Unity in the SpiritFaithfulness to TruthMAT 18:15LUK 1:33JHN 8:321CO 9:121CO 12:13GAL 4:29EPH 4:5COL 4:61TH 5:19HEB 6:4HEB 12:91PE 1:221JN 5:9George Fox emphasizes the importance of being partakers of God's power and the heavenly gift, which fosters unity, peace, and a kingdom without end. He warns against the division caused by those who possess the words of scripture but lack the spirit and power that originally inspired them. Fox encourages believers to remain faithful, obedient to the truth, and to spread it widely, addressing the witness of God in all people. He stresses the necessity of coming together in one body through the baptism of the Spirit, and the importance of resolving conflicts privately to maintain the integrity of the truth. Ultimately, he calls for wisdom that preserves unity and peace among believers.
The Holy Spirit Came Especially for the Purpose of Creating a Spiritual Order of Things
By T. Austin-Sparks0New BirthSpiritual OrderMAT 11:15JHN 3:6JHN 4:24ROM 8:91CO 2:142CO 5:17GAL 5:25EPH 2:18HEB 12:9REV 2:7T. Austin-Sparks emphasizes the transformative impact of the Holy Spirit in establishing a new spiritual order following the coming of Christ, contrasting it with the old Jewish dispensation that relied on physical senses. He explains that the new order is characterized by spiritual faculties, enabling believers to perceive and understand divine truths beyond mere physical experience. Sparks highlights the necessity of being born of the Spirit to access this new reality, where spiritual sight, hearing, and discernment replace the limitations of the old system. He warns against reverting to a soulish Christianity that neglects the leading of the Holy Spirit, urging believers to embrace the spiritual nature of their faith. Ultimately, he calls for a return to a Spirit-led existence that reflects the true essence of the new covenant.
On Obedience to Parents
By John Wesley0ObedienceParental AuthorityEXO 20:12DEU 5:16PRO 1:8PRO 22:6PRO 30:17MAT 15:4EPH 6:1COL 3:201TI 5:4HEB 12:9John Wesley emphasizes the biblical command for children to obey their parents, highlighting that this principle is universally recognized and rooted in both natural law and divine revelation. He explains that obedience is not only a duty but also brings blessings, as it is pleasing to God and is the first commandment with a promise. Wesley urges parents to instill this obedience from a young age, warning against the dangers of indulgence and the consequences of allowing children to act on their own will. He calls for a serious commitment from both parents and children to uphold this commandment, framing it as essential for spiritual well-being and familial harmony.
Your Heavenly Father
By C.H. Spurgeon0Loving ObedienceFatherhood Of GodPSA 103:13MAT 7:11LUK 11:2JHN 1:12ROM 8:152CO 6:18GAL 4:6EPH 1:5HEB 12:91JN 3:1C.H. Spurgeon emphasizes the profound relationship between God and His people, who are both His creation and His adopted children through Christ. He highlights the privilege of addressing God as 'Our Father,' which carries both authority and affection, urging believers to respond with loving obedience rather than servile fear. Spurgeon illustrates the depth of a father's love, asserting that just as earthly fathers care for their children, our heavenly Father provides and protects us with even greater devotion. The sermon calls for a joyful and willing service to God, recognizing His mercy and love as the foundation of our relationship with Him. Ultimately, the term 'Father' encapsulates all our needs and desires, offering a glimpse of heaven itself.
Homily 7 on the Statues
By St. John Chrysostom0GEN 1:1ISA 6:3MAT 5:36GAL 4:24HEB 12:9John Chrysostom emphasizes the connection between sin, grief, and God's cure for humanity, highlighting the destructive nature of sin and the importance of mourning for sin alone. He delves into the passage of Genesis 1:1, showcasing God's forethought and mercy in creation, even in chastisement, as seen in His compassionate call to Adam. Chrysostom concludes with a strong admonition against the casual use of oaths, urging for reverence in speech and a deep respect for the name of the Lord.
Homily 21 on Ephesians
By St. John Chrysostom0PRO 22:6PRO 23:22EPH 6:1COL 3:20HEB 12:9John Chrysostom emphasizes the importance of children obeying and honoring their parents, as it is the first commandment with a promise of well-being and long life. He highlights the gradual progression of authority from husband to wife to children, stressing the need for children to obey their parents in the Lord, following God's commandments. Chrysostom urges fathers not to provoke their children to wrath but to nurture them in the discipline and instruction of the Lord, emphasizing the significance of spiritual upbringing over worldly wealth and status.
Our Spirits
By H.J. Vine0MRK 14:38LUK 1:80JHN 3:6JHN 4:23ROM 2:29ROM 8:16GAL 6:1HEB 12:9HEB 13:151JN 5:1H.J. Vine preaches about the glorification of the redeemed bodies by our Lord Jesus Christ in the twinkling of an eye upon His return, emphasizing the care God provides for our spirits, enabling us to respond with praise and thanksgiving. Believers are encouraged to be in subjection to the Father of spirits, resulting in holiness and peaceable fruit of righteousness. The sermon highlights the necessity of a divine operation in man's spirit for true transformation and the importance of being born again to be right with God.
Epistle 217
By George Fox0EXO 34:24ISA 11:2ISA 59:8ISA 63:10DAN 4:3JHN 4:24JHN 8:44ROM 8:26ROM 14:13ROM 14:171CO 15:58EPH 4:16EPH 4:30PHP 2:1COL 2:23COL 4:61TH 5:192TI 3:16HEB 2:14HEB 3:5HEB 10:20HEB 12:91JN 5:9REV 3:11George Fox preaches about living in the power of God, which brings unity, peace, and joy, and overcomes strife and the works of the devil. He emphasizes the importance of dwelling in the truth, answering it in every person, and maintaining fellowship in the spirit of God. Fox encourages believers to pray, praise, and glorify God in the spirit of wisdom, avoiding actions that grieve or quench the spirit of God. He urges them to be led by the spirit, keep their fellowship with God, and preserve their meetings in the spirit against worldly influences.
The Nature and Universality of Spiritual Death
By Samuel Davies0NUM 16:22PSA 139:23ISA 59:2JHN 5:24ROM 6:231CO 15:102CO 2:162CO 5:17EPH 2:1HEB 12:9Samuel Davies preaches about the nature and universality of spiritual death, emphasizing the dreadful state of the soul separated from God, dead in transgressions and sins. He vividly describes the ghastly countenance, convulsive agonies, and insensibility of physical death, paralleling it with the spiritual death that separates the soul from God's presence and leads to everlasting misery. Davies highlights the need for God's mercy and grace to make sinners alive with Christ, underscoring the inability of individuals to quicken themselves due to their deadness in sin. He urges both the spiritually alive and dead to reflect on their condition, calling for repentance, gratitude, and a recognition of salvation by grace alone.
Spirituality the Key to All That Is of God
By T. Austin-Sparks0JHN 3:3ROM 8:141CO 2:141CO 6:171CO 15:452CO 4:6HEB 12:9T. Austin-Sparks preaches on the importance of spirituality as the key to understanding all that belongs to God. He emphasizes the necessity of being reconstituted as spiritual beings to grasp the things of God, highlighting the gulf between the natural and the spiritual. The sermon delves into the counterfeit spirituality that often masquerades as true spirituality, cautioning against relying on external rituals or forms for spiritual growth.
The Early Days of Brethren
By J.G. Bellet0PRO 3:11HOS 5:2EPH 6:4HEB 12:9Greek Word Studies for an aid_number 33756 delves into the concept of 'paideutes' as a corrector or discipliner, drawing parallels to the role of a pedagogue in ancient Greek culture who oversaw the moral and ethical development of a child. The term is used in Hebrews 12:9 to emphasize the discipline and correction provided by earthly fathers and the need to submit to the Father of spirits for spiritual growth and life.
- Adam Clarke
- Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
- John Gill
- Tyndale
Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
We have had fathers of our flesh - The fathers of our flesh, i.e. our natural parents, were correctors; and we reverenced them, notwithstanding their corrections often arose from whim or caprice: but shall we not rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits; to him from whom we have received both body and soul; who is our Creator, Preserver, and Supporter; to whom both we and our parents owe our life and our blessings; and who corrects us only for our profit; that we may live and be partakers of his holiness? The apostle in asking, Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? alludes to the punishment of the stubborn and rebellious son, Deu 21:18-21 : "If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them; then shall his father and mother lay hold on him and bring him to the elders of the city, and they shall say, This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice: and all the men of the city shall stone him with stones that he Die." Had he been subject to his earthly parents, he would have lived; because not subject, he dies. If we be subject to our heavenly Father, we shall Live, and be partakers of his holiness; if not, we shall Die, and be treated as bastards and not sons. This is the sum of the apostle's meaning; and the fact and the law to which he alludes.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
fathers . . . which corrected us--rather as Greek, "We had the fathers of our flesh as correctors." subjection--See the punishment of insubordination, Deu 21:18. Father of spirits--contrasted with "the fathers of our flesh." "Generation by men is carnal, by God is spiritual" [BENGEL]. As "Father of spirits," He is both the Originator, and the Providential and Gracious Sustainer, at once of animal and spiritual life. Compare "and LIVE," namely, spiritually; also Heb 12:10, "that we might be partakers of His holiness" (Pe2 1:4). God is a spirit Himself, and the Creator of spirits like Himself, in contrast to men who are flesh, and the progenitors of flesh (Joh 3:6). Jesus our pattern "learned obedience" experimentally by suffering (Heb 5:8). and live--and so, thereby live spiritually and eternally.
John Gill Bible Commentary
Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh,.... Earthly parents; who are so called, because they are the immediate causes and instruments of the generation of their children, and of their fleshly bodies and worldly beings; and to distinguish them from the Father of spirits: and this shows, that they have not the spirit or soul from them, only the flesh or body, and which is frail and corrupt; and therefore goes by this name. Which corrected us; early, and at proper seasons, in love, and for instruction, and to prevent ruin, and death: and we gave them reverence; by submitting to their correction, and hearkening to it; by taking shame to themselves, and acknowledging the offence committed; by retaining the same affection for them; and, by a carefulness not to offend for the future. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? that is, to God, who is so called; not because he is the Creator of angels, who are spirits; but because he is the Creator of the souls of men; the soul is the more noble and excellent part of man: it bears a resemblance to God; it is, the life of man, and is immortal; it is exceeding precious, and the redemption of it; this was at first immediately created by God; and he still continues to create souls, which he preserves in their being, and has the power of saving and destroying them. Besides, God may be so called, because he is the author and donor of all spiritual gifts, and particularly of regenerating grace; it is he who renews a right spirit in them, and puts a new spirit into them: now such ought to be in "subjection" to him; not only as creatures to a Creator, and as subjects to their prince: but as children to a father, and particularly to him, as and when correcting; they should bow to his sovereignty, resign to his will, be humble under his mighty hand, be still and quiet, and bear all patiently; the advantage arising from such a subjection is life: "and live"; or "that ye may live"; or "and ye shall live": more comfortably, and more to the glory of God, in communion and fellowship with him here, and in heaven to all eternity.
Tyndale Open Study Notes
12:9 The author argues from lesser to greater (see study note on 9:14). Here, the lesser situation is the respect shown to an earthly father when he is giving discipline. We should submit even more to the discipline of the Father of our spirits in the more important context of our relationship with God. We should adopt a posture of yielding to God as to a good Father, trusting that he is helping us grow even through painful circumstances.