In this video, the speaker shares a personal encounter with a missionary in Africa who recognized his leadership potential. The missionary encouraged him to leave his current mission and pursue greater things. The speaker then discusses the biblical basis for such a calling and the importance of preaching the gospel to all nations. He also reflects on his own struggles with being lukewarm and shares a story about a divine encounter that motivated him to continue preaching the gospel.

Galatians 1 verse 8, But though we, on angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you, than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. And it's very clear from the scriptures, that when it comes to the message of salvation, we cannot preach another message. We may not preach another message, else let him be accursed, the Bible says. And certain people in Galatians who were preaching some other message, they, Paul, wished that they were cut off, that they were killed. Now what is the basic gospel message? I'm not going to go into every detail of it. We know that Jesus Christ came down to earth, that he lived a perfect life, that he died a substitutionary death, before that he became our sin. God the Father made him his own son to be sin. He faced his own father's wrath for our sin. And he died. And then he rose again. He died for our offenses, rose again for our justification. He ascended up to heaven, and he's sitting on the right hand side of the Father, and he is interceding for us. He ever lives. It's not only what he does every day, it's what he lives to do. It's to intercede. And we see from the scriptures, it's both for the unsaved who come to him for salvation, and for the saved at times in their life. He ever lives to intercede daily for us. And so it is that if a sinner, if God works in that sinner's life, and he becomes repentant and humbled of his sin, and he doesn't reject this working of God's life in his life, and he calls out to God for mercy, that God will forgive as Jesus interceded and said, remember it is finished. And God loves you, wants to forgive you, but he's going to agree with Jesus. He says, yes, it is finished, and he's going to forgive and justify. That's very basic. Now the Bible message we read after Jesus Christ died, it was commanded very clearly that we should preach repentance and remission of sin in the name of Jesus Christ. Two little things. Repent and receive forgiveness. Now we're not allowed to preach another gospel. We can't preach the gospel of works, like many people preach, that you're saved by good works. We cannot preach the gospel of experiences. That some people say, I was in an amazing meeting and something happened to me, and therefore I am saved, and that proves it. And yet they don't have the fruit of the gospel in the Bible. You can't preach another gospel. But even though we cannot preach another gospel, the way we bring the message depends on who we're speaking to. We cannot preach another message, but the way we bring it depends on who we're speaking to. Some people might disagree with me of that. I don't think by the end of the sermon you will. That's not pride. I just hope so. Who are you speaking to, you should ask. Am I speaking to an atheist? Am I speaking to a New Age cult, or some other cult? Am I speaking to a religious person? Am I speaking to a Christian religious person? Who believes in God, but he is not just a good person, like a religious person. He actually believes the Bible, and believes in God, and he's religious. He believes his good works are going to get him to heaven. Are you speaking to a liberal, saved person? Someone who believes that you have to accept Jesus Christ to be saved, because your good works aren't going to get you into heaven. And you really need to accept Jesus Christ, and you do, but you don't have to really, nothing has to change afterwards. Perhaps you're speaking to someone like that, who not only is a liberal, saved person, who's not saved because he just accepted Christ, but he's after that had amazing experiences, which he claims proves that he knows God. Are you perhaps preaching to a weak person, or speaking to a weak person? When you go on the street, who are you speaking to? When you meet people out there, who are you speaking to? You have to ask the question, because it's going to change the way you bring the message, not the message itself. Some people, I speak to them, and I say, are you saved? And they say, I can't be saved. I pray to be saved again and again, and after a week or so, I get irritated with my wife, so I can't be saved. Brother, no one's saved, if that's the thing. Although, I don't have a wife, and I haven't been irritated with my fiancée. I said wives. Some say, well, this is the question, how can we know who we're speaking to? You go down the street, you speak to people, how can you know this is an atheist, or a cult, or a Jehovah's Witness, or someone who's religious, or someone who's religious, liberal, or is trusting in his experiences to prove that he's saved? How do you know who you're speaking to? Some say, well, by the outward appearance, and they're right to a very small degree, but not true. You know, if you see a nun walking down the road with her little black and white, and everything, and she goes, and she goes, da-da-da-da-da, then you kind of know she's probably a Catholic. So, wow, by the outward appearance, we can see that some people are Catholics. But yesterday, I spoke to a whole lot of people, and Israel too, and I don't know if Israel could see who was Catholic by just looking at them. They all looked like Americans. I don't know who was who, just by looking at the outward appearance. Some people have Greek, Gothic clothing, black clothing, silver rings, silver jewelry, they have things through their mouths, and you think, well, that's either Satanist, or it's a Greek Gothic, but you don't really know which. Or it's someone who's just very bitter, or someone who just likes black clothing. You don't know. From the outside. Some say, well, by the leading of the Spirit, you will know. You know, I sat next to a Catholic yesterday, and I've never been led to know who this person is. I have been led, but not just by sitting there and saying, okay, I think this is a Catholic next to me, or maybe he's a Jehovah's Witnesses. Are you a Jehovah's Witness? No, I actually sat with someone yesterday, and I did what I believe is the only realistic way to find out what he is, and I said, um, what is your Christian background? And so yesterday, the guy said, um, I'm a Catholic, who has become a Lutheran. I'm still a Catholic, but my wife is a Lutheran. We're bringing up our children in Lutheran. I said to him, now this is just asking a simple question. I don't know where he stands exactly. I said, how do you believe, what do you people believe concerning how to know that you go to heaven? Do you know that you're going to heaven? He said, I haven't reached that point yet. Immediately, through a few simple questions, I knew who I was dealing with to a great degree. Not everything, but a lot more than, I knew he wasn't a Jehovah's Witness. I knew a lot of things that he wasn't, and so I could deal with who he was for a long time. You know, in Cape Town, South Africa, we used to go out wishing him all the time, and I remember at Bible College, there was another student. He was a new student. He was wonderfully saved from drugs and a whole lot of different things, and quite a big sinner before he got saved, like many of the Bible College students at my place, and interestingly, we went out to witness, and he didn't know anything about Cults, except that they were perhaps people with dark eyes, and they looked like they were, you know, Druids or something like that. That's Cults, you know. So I came with him, and we spoke to different people in the streets for a few, every day we were speaking to people, and I remember coming to this one person, and it was a colored person, and we asked him, he or me asked him, do you have a testimony of salvation? He said, yes, Jesus lives in my heart, and he was so excited. His eyes were literally tingling. He said, Jesus lives in me, and this guy immediately fell for the fact that he was a Christian. After a few questions, he said, okay, he's a Christian, and he was just talking to him as a brother in Christ. But I was listening, because I wanted to know, is this really a Christian? I've met Satanists with shining eyes, who say, Satanic Cults, I've met people like this, in Satanic Cults, with shining eyes, shining faces, and I asked them about Jesus. They said, I can't live without Jesus in my heart. People who worship the Spirit. And so I want to find out now, and how do I find out? By being led of the Spirit? No, I asked questions. And I asked him, and I started homing in, what really happened at salvation? How did you come to the point of salvation? And the person next to me, this other student, sitting there, I remember this was about six years back, and he was getting cross with me. I could feel he was getting irritated. He goes, how can you judge this wonderful Christian? I'm not judging him, I'm just asking him questions. That's all right. Even South Africans are allowed to ask questions. And, you know, I started to figure out, just from little things I heard, this is probably a Jesus only, wondrous movement person. Not by anything he said about the Holy Spirit, and about the wondrous movement, about Bramman, and all the people. Not by little things, just by a few little things. I started to think, could this be a wondrous movement person? And they don't believe the doctrine of Christ, and even if they totally dedicated God, my Bible says to John 9, that if you don't have the doctrine of Christ, you don't have God, and that's it. I don't care how dedicated people are. They don't have the doctrine of Christ, my Bible says they don't know God. No matter how innocent they are, no matter how wonderful their heart is, and it's not judgmental, it's my Bible. And eventually, I saw this guy literally getting cross next to me. How can you be asking all these questions? He was literally shaking. He was a young believer, and I just realized, if I carry on, he's going to blow it. So I just, okay, I said, I'll come to the point. Are you Jesus only wondrous movement? He said, yes, I am. And the guy next to me suddenly realized he was wrong, but then the pride came out because he was wrong. And I'd be wrong all the time, and he went around the corner, and he blew it. And he's a lovely person, he's married now. But you have to realize, to find out who you're speaking to, you have to ask questions. Someone came up to me the other day with my friend and said, I've got a word for you. And he said, I don't know if he said he was going to get a wonderful word to my friend. He said, nothing for me. Sometimes they do say wonderful things to me. And then he took his Bible out, and without that, he didn't take his Bible, I'm lying to you. He said, I'm going to quote you from the scriptures, and he quoted scriptures, quoted scriptures, quoted scriptures. And he said, we have to obey, a true Christian obeys the Word of God. Quoting the different scriptures, you can't just be a Christian if you don't obey God. You've saved, you have to be born again, and then you, and so on. And my friend fell for it immediately. And I didn't say he's not a Christian, or he is a Christian, but I didn't accept someone is a Christian just by, just by him saying that he's got a testimony, and that, that he quotes the scriptures, and has all the right verses. I want, I was asking questions, asking questions, asking questions. And after a while, it came out that he was a follower of people like Benny Hinn, falling over all these things, and that you're not allowed to judge Benny Hinn. I said, is that really so? And I named a few things. He said, in the Bible, it says, Matthew 7, do not judge. So I said, I quoted him a few other verses. So he said, that doesn't matter. Jesus said, do not judge. But you said we must obey the scripture, but isn't it all the scripture we have to obey? And it only came out by, and he quoted verses where he said, you have to obey, you're only my friend if you obey all I command you. So he was quoting all the right scriptures. He sounded like a wonderful Christian. He shined. His face was usually this bubble of Jesus. And yet, he was so deceived. And how did I find that out? Well, at the end of the day, he said to me, Roy, you are unsaved. You must go and look to find out if you're saved, because you've got a judgmental spirit. I said, that's fine. I'm not allowed to judge Benny Hinn, but you're allowed to judge me. He said, argh. Then I'd stood up and tried to shake his hand, and I did after a while. It took a little bit of being friendly again. Some people say, well, do we have to find out who he's speaking to? I can't just go up to him and tell him I'm going to hell. You'd be amazed some people do that. D.O. Moody did that, and it actually worked. He walked up to one person. He said, you are going to hell. The man got totally angry, walked away. The next day, he looked to find out who was this D.O. Moody. He found him, something like that, and got wonderfully saved, a little time later. But, generally, D.O. Moody didn't do that, and we can't copy in our general experience. I know a guy who does it in Africa. He prays for hours and hours. He prays literally for hours and hours, and he reads his Bible for hours and hours every day. He speaks to every soul he can about the Lord, but how he does it is totally impractical. He goes up to people, and he says, I've seen him do this. Sorry, sir, you are going to hell. This is a trap for you. And with all his spirituality, and he's seeking the Lord, he's so impractical, I don't think he will bring a soul to the Lord, and don't get me wrong, God can use that. But I've just seen people turn away from the gospel through that, and I'd like to bring a principle. There's a power in spaced out truth, and that doesn't mean that we have to wait five years before we tell people that they're unsaved. I was at Monmouth, South Africa, about many places. I go to so many places in South Africa, but I remember this one time years ago, three, four years back, sitting down there, and I wanted to go and witness. I prayed for half an hour, went in the street, and I had a whole bunch of tracts. Now, South Africa is very easy to give out tracts in certain areas. You just say, would anybody like this? Some of the places, that place, they start a toot team, the cars. Toot, toot, toot, give me, give me, toot, toot, toot. It's like, sure, okay, yeah. It's not like America, we have to ask. That's certain places in South Africa, by the way, not all. Sometimes they don't want to take anything you give to them. And I remember sitting down there and finding an animus, a Zionist. Actually, I walked down the street after giving my tracts, and I found this place where they were selling different products. And I went into the little place, and there was a man there sitting, he's clothing, he's a black man, and he was a Zionist. Now, there's big Zionist movements, three million people. There's churches. A witch doctor in Africa will get a dream in the night, and Jesus, not the true Jesus, but Jesus will appear to that witch doctor and say, you have to become a Christian now, and you must start a church that wears green dresses. And so you'll get green dresses, blue dresses, white dresses, everything, but they don't leave their forefather worship, they carry on with spirit worship, but Jesus supposedly has appeared to them, and they become a Zionist church. That's all over Africa. Very hard to get them, easy to get people to become Christians in Africa, very hard for them to become born-again Christians who leave their forefather worship and they sing. I can go down the street, and I can get 20 people to kneel down and pray with me and say, Jesus Christ, peace come into my heart. It's the simplest thing on earth, but it doesn't do anything. Now, I got this guy, and I started to speak to him. I spoke to him, his language was not perfect English, but he could understand half-half, and I was speaking, speaking to him, and speaking to him, and I started in the beginning of the Bible, and in the very beginning he said, would you like some beer? And they make some beer out of, I don't know what they make it out of, but it's terrifying stuff. No, I don't want to drink some beer. And right through this two-hour conversation, all the time he was offering me this beer, and like Israel, what is this stuff you offer me? Kombucha. It was nice, but I mean it wasn't beer. And I spoke to him, but I remember at the beginning he was just like a normal person, he was just, but he was so blank. You explain to him everything, he's just blank, blank, blank. And he talks about his family, and he talks about that, and I give him time to speak, because I don't want to dominate him like the Jehovah's Witnesses do. And then after he's spoken for a while, I bring him back to what I'm talking about, bring him back to, and then he asks a little question, and I answer it, and then he goes off on another trend. And after about two hours, I'm feeling this is, you know, what's happening. And it was only about the end of the two hours, slowly giving him truth, trying to destroy from the Bible the lies, he doesn't know anything of the Bible. Slowly bringing truth, that he started to keep quiet. And he wasn't angry at any point, but he started to think, and you could see he was almost shaking. And he shook, and he's like, what's happening? And then I phoned, I said, I saw this guy as he was starting to realize that he was wrong, and that his church was wrong, and that everything was wrong. And I phoned a friend of mine that Ezra knows, Pastor Pietrus, who I don't agree with everything he does, but he is a very good Christian. And I said to him, phone this guy. So Pastor Pietrus phoned him, and spoke to him, explained to him in his own language, what I'd already explained. And after that, he accepted Jesus Christ, and as I understand, left the Zionist movement, which is quite amazing. And his whole family maybe got saved, sometimes they follow the man and they're not really saved, but they sang hymns to me on the phone. I phoned him a couple of times, like, let me sing to you. He's so excited, back then it was just beer. No, it's excitement, I want to sing to you, the hymn. What am I saying all this for? There is a power in spaced out truth. People are blind, they're not, they're so stupid, they're like deformed brains as far as the gospel goes. And you slowly break down the lies. Slowly break down the lies, not just yell the gospel, you can do that and it's good. But after you've done that, you're going to have to realize they didn't get anything. And then you slowly break down the lies. And there's just a moment sometimes, not for everybody, some are hard, they won't even let you speak to them like that, where the truth breaks through. Where this covering of lies, where it's so broken down that suddenly the light can come in. You have to treat different people, bring the message in a different way to different people. You know to a child, if I'm speaking to a child, if I'm speaking at school, I'll preach against, this is so obvious, everybody knows it. If you preach at a school, I'll preach against sleeping around and a lot of different sin. If I'm speaking to a little child, I will not explain to him why he mustn't sleep around. I will explain to him that disobeying your daddy is wrong. You see, I haven't changed the gospel message, I've changed the application concerning who I'm speaking to. And as it is with a child and an older person, so it is with different people, older, they have different, there's different ways you must handle them because they've many times even got different sins that are dominating their lives, or that they've done. Some people ask, can't we just bring it to them, to everybody the same? Do we have to find out who we're speaking to? And I'm going to contradict myself, I'm going to say no, not always. But it's good if you can. It's really good if you can find out who you're speaking to. Here's a few examples. I have a friend, I work, they put, when you first go into a mission field, they put you under someone. Later they often give you missionaries to work underneath you. You have to teach them where they're pushing wrong, where they're witnessing wrong, many different things. They've been through Bible college, but it's almost like a daddy figure. And it's interesting to see the mistakes they make, and they can often help you. Some of them are better than me, much better than me. And they've got so much knowledge, and they help me as a Christian wonderfully. But sometimes I can help them. And this one person, he saw everybody as someone who's a religious Christian. In other words, someone who believes that good works will get them to heaven. It's very good that some people believe that good works will get them to hell, because of their bad works. And he would go, and we went to this house, and I remember sitting there with this person, and this person told us, I said to the person, would you like to tell us your testimony, how you got saved, because he claims to be a Christian. Oh yes, I was so and so, and I was in a meeting, and I came out, and I accepted Jesus Christ, and I know I'm going to heaven. And then after a while, I realized, but wait a minute, this person is loving the world. I mean, you can see it in this house, with the things he does, with the things he says, with the things he allows. He utterly, utterly loves, he's not a corner Christian, he's unsaved, by many of the obvious sins that he was doing. And now my friend, as usual, decided to take over, and he treated this person as a religious good person. And he tried to explain to him, listen, your good works are not going to get you to hell. And the man said, yes, I agree. And he said, your bad works are much bigger than your good works, and all your good works together couldn't take away one lie that you ever did, and you're going to meet God one day, he's going to throw you into hell if you don't accept Jesus Christ has died for you. Okay, it was longer than that, that was the basic story. We came out of the house later, and he was in the car, and he said, what a wonderful opportunity to witness. I said, wait a minute. Let me explain something to you. Everything you said, he agreed with. It was the gospel, it was the truth, but you see, when you said, your good works won't get you to heaven, he said, I agree, because he does agree. When you said, all your good works couldn't ever take away your bad works, he agrees. Because when you say you have to accept Jesus Christ, and repent, he agrees. He believes that's the only way you're going to go to heaven. What you didn't tell him, is that two things, when you come to God, the motive has to be right. And that motive may not be because you're scared of hell, or because you want a better life, or for all those different things. The motive must be, that you have godly sorrow of your sin, and come to the point where, there's nothing you're not willing to give up if God tells you to. And then if you come to God like that, and through faith he saves you, it's a gift of God, then afterwards there will be fruit. This Bible, I understand certain people can't read, and that's understandable, but there must be a change. The Bible, should become alive to you. If you go to 1 John, and you go through the different texts, and then it says, these things are written unto you, that believe on the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life. What are these things? It's different things. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. And that doesn't mean you never fail. But it does mean, that when Jesus comes into your heart, there's a desire, not to follow this man, or that man, or that movement, or that experience, but to do God's will, as revealed in the Bible. If you love the world, like that man loved, you don't know God. Yes, there's times where, you come to temptations, and your flesh wants to do it, but that new nature in you, who loves God, actually feels greed, if you do it, or if you want to do it. I mean your flesh wants to do it. Fruit, and of course, if you don't have the Holy Spirit, you're not saved. The Bible says in Romans, says in 1 John, and what does the Holy Spirit do? Does he make you fall over all the time? Well, I know people who fall over, and they're not going to heaven, but you know, the Bible becomes new to you. It doesn't have to be this huge bang change, it's just that before it was dry, and now, you realize, it's starting to become alive. Certain things are just, God's talking to me. I'm trying to understand, the Bible a little more. It's just, something in me is doing it, and that's God. And I said, if you'd done that to him, then perhaps he would have thought. You see, you cannot treat a religious person, a religious Christian, the same as a liberal evangelical. You can't do it. And if you do it, you're going to go preaching your whole life away, and you're not going to be very effective for your life, in general. You should find out, if a person believes the Bible. If possible. You know, in Rich's Bay, South Africa, I went out witnessing, I don't know, it was two years back, I've been here this year, and done different things there too, but I remember two years back, I think I was witnessing in Rich's Bay, a very funny, hard town, and going into the street, and this time, I was just finding different black people again, and I found one person, sitting down in this big, field of grass, and I sat down with him, and I might have even given him a meal or something, and I said to him, listen, can I talk to you? And I said, I asked him first, what do you believe? Oh, I'm an animist, I'm an audience, I'm an animist, I'm a Zionist, and so on. I said, can I explain? Well, first of all, I asked him, do you believe the Bible? He said, yes, I believe the Bible. Not that he read much of it, but he believed it. I said, that's wonderful, can I show you a few things from the Bible? And I went through the Bible, and showed him, that everything he was doing was wrong. And he was like, we asked a few questions here and there, that's true, because, you know, they do reason, he's got a bit of pride in him, but at the end of about an hour, or two hours, he like said, I'm wrong. I realize it now. I'm wrong. I don't know if I gave him, I gave him a CD, with a Zulu person, within his language, how to get saved. Very good repentance sermon, by one of the preachers there. Went away from him, came to another person, on the same day, a few minutes later, and I said, and I started witnessing with him. And, and you know, it's the same, it's the same thing, he's a Zionist. Same idea, everything, except one difference, he doesn't believe the Bible. I spoke, speak in German, he said, look, why are you quoting from that book? Well, I don't believe that book. And I couldn't, apart from the fact, that there's pride involved, I couldn't get anywhere with it. You know, in South Africa, we have schools, many schools across South Africa, the communists have said it's almost illegal to preach the gospel at schools. Sorry, I'm just doing my shoelace. No other preacher would do their shoelace. The front, the Bible. It's irritating me, sorry. In South Africa, we have schools across South Africa. And many of these schools, they are teachers, who take a Bible and try to teach the Bible to the students. Okay? I remember when I was in about grade 6 at school, they took the Bibles out of my schools. The English schools are mostly like that. The black English schools, a lot of them teach the Bible, even though they're forefather worshippers, they like to teach the Bible. The, I went to an Indian headmaster, he said, sure, come and teach the Bible. But they don't teach the Bible. But you've got lots of schools, where at the boarding house especially, they will, every single evening, to hundreds of kids, teach them the Bible. And those kids will be on drugs, they'll be going out sleeping around, they'll be gay, lesbian, everything that you've got, they're there. And yet they've been taught the Bible every day. And they've been taught that you have to repent, by many of these white people. And that you have to accept Jesus Christ. And yet they sit there, and they sit through it, and they chew their gum. And there's a person, in America, and I do not agree with everything he teaches, or everything he believes, I think his name is Ken Ham, but he's done a pretty much good, he wrote a book once, Why They Will Not Listen. And the basic idea of this book, and there's a free CD on the internet I think, is that, is that there's lies, that young people believe, about 25 common lies, concerning the Bible. And as you preach to them, many times they won't listen until those lies are dealt with. Now you can disagree with that, or agree with it, but one thing I'll tell you is it works. In South Africa, we went to one school, this teacher said, you know I preach for years and years, I preach the gospel, I tell them they have to repent, I explain it to them, I explain everything to them, they chew gum. Yeah, thanks, cool. Hey, that's what they do. And then we told them about this book, and we just gave this book to that lady. And she read it, and she realized there's about 25 lies, that young people believe against the Bible. And she started teaching it, do you know what happened? Suddenly, after three years of preaching the gospel, when she preached the gospel, the next time they were sitting there listening. Why? Because before, you were taking this book, which is fairy tales, and telling people, you're going to hell, you're a sinner, you have to repent, and yeah, sure, thanks. But now suddenly this book is true. And therefore, if it's the truth, we better listen if it's the truth, because it might affect our destiny. And so they would sit, and they would listen. And this has literally happened in many places. Now the last example of why we should find out who we're speaking to, just take a Jehovah's Witness and a Catholic. Now to a Jehovah's Witness, Jesus Christ is the highest creation. He was Michael the Archangel, he came down, he was recreated to become a little baby, he became a man for a long time, he died only for Adam, not for anybody else. All the rest of us have to work our way to heaven, maybe we'll get there, or to our paradise on earth, only 144,000 get up to be with the Father, the rest of us can be in a paradise on earth with Jesus Christ. When he died, he was resurrected, but that resurrection means, because their terminology is different to our terminology, we say repent, they say we repent, but they mean something else, they say, many of the terms we use, but the resurrection to them means he was recreated to be Michael the Archangel. Now they believe many things. But let's say you come to him concerning sin, well you tell him Jesus Christ is the answer to your sin. You have to explain to him who Jesus is, because his Jesus is the highest creation of God. That's it. So to a Jehovah's Witness, you find out he's a Jehovah's Witness, you have to prove to him, although some people get saved with a few words, but in many cases you have to explain to them why Jesus is God. Now if you go to a Catholic, you don't have to explain, if you go to a Catholic and for one hour you sit down, and you explain to him, listen, Jesus Christ is not the highest creation of God, and he is God, and for a whole hour prove to him from the scripture Jesus is God. It's wonderful that you did that, but he'll agree with you right the way through. He just adds Mary as being God as well, and a whole lot of different other things that will tell you wrong. You see you have to know who you're speaking to. Very simple thing that everybody should know, but some people amazingly are, say you're changing the gospel by changing the way you bring it across. Ask questions to know who you're speaking to. With patience, this is the next point, reason with people. Where do we read this in the Bible? 2 Timothy 2 verse 23 to 26. Let's read it. The servant of God must not strive, but be gentle unto all men. Listen to this. Apt to teach, all men include sinners. This is not only speaking of Christians. Apt to teach, patient, in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves. Listen to this. If God, peradventure, will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth. What is Paul saying here? We must be meek, we must be patient. When we deal with people, they're spiritually dead, so we must slowly bring them the truth. We mustn't just throw them away, because they don't in five minutes get saved. They're not worthy of the gospel, they anyway don't like us. Just before this, it says foolish and unlearned questions avoid. Well, if you speak to Jehovah's Witness, they don't believe in the Christmas tree. And that's interesting. And they don't believe in a lot of things. The 7th Advent is Ezra. And all these different cults, they got lots of little different extra things. You don't have to talk about these things forever and argue, but concerning the main lies that keep them from seeing the truth, concerning themselves before a holy God, and concerning true salvation, those lies, you have to with patience, teach them. And that might take time. To slowly break down the lies until the light can come through, by God's grace. You know, I know a person in South Africa, concerning the Jehovah's Witnesses, he witnesses to many people, but he said to me once, he's a minister, I just, if a Jehovah's Witness comes to the door, I'm sorry he has to go. Because he wants to debate, and I tell him the truth in five minutes, he doesn't want it, I'm telling him to go. Because it's fleshly to reason. Cool guy. I really love him, he's a nice guy, he really witnesses. But I think he's wrong there. You know, the head, I think it was the head Jehovah's Witnesses in South Africa got saved. If not the head, at least very high up, a few years back. How did he get saved? By someone, when he came to the door, saying to him in five minutes, the gospel, and then he just went down on his knees and got saved? No. It was an old man, who was burdened and broken, and felt himself in debt, like Paul to the Jehovah's Witnesses, who came across his house, and he studied them, and studied the main things, the main things that needed to be tackled, not everything. The trees and whatever. And he studied through the Bible to find out how he could answer them. And then one day, one of the highest up Jehovah's Witnesses came to his house, and he was praying, God help me to win them. And that man came in, it didn't happen in five minutes, he slowly broke down the lies, he slowly broke down the lies, he reasoned forth, this way and that way, slowly broke down the lies, and after a few hours, it might have been the first day, I don't know, it was the second time that person came, that person got saved. Some people don't believe in reasoning. Old apostles, who of you have heard of the old apostles? And the new apostles? Not the apostles. The apostle movement, I think there's quite a few countries, but in South Africa, we have the new and old apostles. We're the only country in the world with new and old apostles, because in South Africa, they had to have a split over something. But, over the world, you've got the old apostles, we've got the new apostles. Old apostles are a very demonic cult. You have a priest who is very, he's got control over the congregation, he's very fleshly, nothing in the Bible is true, it's all stories. So Noah and his ark didn't happen, it's just a figure, everything's figurative. There's nothing that's not figurative. Have you ever met people like that? It's a figurative Bible. I mean, Jesus Christ didn't really come, the Word came, whatever that is, and he didn't go up to heaven, because heaven is in your head. Do you understand? That's how messed up they are. You can't really argue with them, because any good verse you give, they'll take it figuratively. Okay? And also, they're demonic. The priest, if the wife is away from the house, the priest will sleep with the wife to fulfill the husband's, I mean, they're demonic. You cannot believe how dark those people are. It's basically Satan worshipped with another name, and they sing the old hymn. But like this, I've been, and by mistake, this last year I walked into one of their churches, I've been before to give out tracts, but I walked into one of their churches, and I thought this was the right church where I was going to preach that morning or something, and I sit down, it's like, whoa, this is dead. They're singing, When peace like a river, there was just darkness on the people's faces. The elders looked around. But apart from that, it was amazing. And anyway, one time, these people don't easily get saved. Very few of them ever get saved, ever come out of them. It's one of the hardest people to witness to on earth, because of this life. Now, one of them got saved, a few of them have, but one of them got radically saved, one of their pastors got saved. And he decided to do something fun, because he really got saved. He traveled to another town, and he didn't tell them that he was an Old Apostle pastor previously, but he knew exactly how they think. And so he went to the church and said, I challenge you, Mr. Pastor, and you can bring, and you know they love a challenge, because they thrash you, they know their Bible figuratively. And absolutely, he said, and the man said, yes, I'll come, and I'll bring my whole congregation, and you're going to be dead. And basically, he came there, and he was ready for it, because he was an Old Apostle priest. I mean, he knew how these guys think. And he said to them, listen, just one thing, we're going to make a rule at the beginning of this little debate. Everything you say that's not in the Bible, and everything I say that's not in the Bible, either of us has to stand up. If we have to prove something with something outside the Bible, then we have to stand up and say, I'm a liar. He said, that's fine. He didn't know who he was speaking to, because a normal person, he could handle that and destroy that person. But he didn't realize he was an Old Apostle priest, for God's sake. And so they started. And he started asking them questions that you cannot answer without adding from their books from the outside. And he asked these different questions, and the guy was like, having to stand up, I'm a liar, I'm a liar, I'm a liar. It was just brilliant. And the people sitting there, they suddenly started to realize he's a liar. And a whole lot of them said, okay, well you teach us. So they went, this never happens, this is impossible. And he started to teach them, and he knew how to teach them, because he knew the lies that gripped their hearts. And they got radically, and I'm not there to see them radically saved, but as I understand, they got radically saved and started an evangelical church. Now who of you are against debating to win this over? I know many people who were, and not yet, I don't know. But some people are. It's not wrong. Sorry. I know of Jehovah's Witnesses who got, my one friend is Jehovah's Witness. We're not Jehovah's Witnesses anymore. I've got a few of them. One is a cult expert. Someone asked about the cults, something I don't know. But there's one person, he said, you know Roy, I was walking down the street, I met this Baptist or something, and I said to him, he's wrong, and I showed him he's wrong, and he said, would you like a debate? He said, I'll bring the whole church to debate. So he went back, and amazingly, they don't normally do this, the church said yes, 30 years back, came there, debated, and he was sitting between this debate, and he suddenly realized, I'm wrong. And he got saved. And he's become a minister, and my father knows very well, through the years. I love as a person, I preach in his church. Anybody against debating? That's good. I'm so glad. Debating is not sin, as long as you do it with patience, with love. I'd like to read what Charles Spurgeon said, on using reason. He actually said this of Charles Finney. While giving instruction, it is wise to appeal to the understanding. True religion is as logical, this is Charles Spurgeon by the way, as if it were not emotional. I'm not an admirer of the popular views of Mr. Finney, but I have no doubt that he was useful to many, and his power lay in the use of clear arguments. Now people come to me, and they say, Roy, I walked up to a person, and I said one line, and he broke the forgotten, and he got saved. Well, well done, that happens. I've done that, and God did that. But that's not what many people need. They've got so many lies, hiding them from the truth, that those need to be broken down slowly, through good reasoning, and good arguments, and the Holy Spirit working through those arguments. 1 Peter 3 verse 15, Be ready always to give an answer to every man, that asketh you a reason, and the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear. You know the first, I spoke to many Jehovah's Witnesses through my life, but you know one of the first that I met, and I got saved, and I'd read through my Bible a lot, and I met this person, and I was speaking to him, and really I said to the Lord, I'm just going to trust the Lord. God, please give me the right verses. And I just couldn't remember the verses. Please give me the verses. And I just couldn't remember the verses. And you'd think I'm a very unspiritual person. But you know I found something there. I needed to go home and study a bit. It's all the words. And after I'd often meet Jehovah's Witnesses. By the way, I think I told you, if you ever meet a Jehovah's Witness, wait till they've given you coke in their house, before you start witnessing to them, or they won't give it to you. That's my personal experience. I very much enjoy to sit down and enjoy Coca-Cola, because they think they're going to convert me. And then they find out that they gave coke to the wrong guy. But it wasn't stealing, because they offered. You know what? Now in Rhineland, as you were saying, there are certain types of people you meet. You don't have Hindus walking all around you. So you don't have to spend millions of hours learning about Hindus. But they're the type of people that you meet. And when you meet them, you should go home. And what's nice to do is get a few young people together, after you've witnessed, and say, listen, these are the questions I couldn't answer. And be honest. I mean, it's not unspiritual not to be able to answer questions. And pray about it. Look through the scriptures. What's a good answer? Logically and from the scripture. So that you can give answers. And is it something that isn't necessary, should we rather focus on something else? And by speaking to each other, you get such good answers. Sometimes. The first Jesus I met, and this is the whole principle of asking questions. I met this person. Wow! This looks like the Amish. They've got long dresses, long hair. Okay, they didn't have a head covering. But I mean, it looks, the boys, they look like they're clean. They've got clean faces. And I went and spoke to them, and they said, no, we were Jesus Christ in our heart. We love Jesus. And, something, then they started talking about Mr. Bramwyn, and I was worried that they were talking about him. And, but I was confused. They sounded so right, but are they right? And you know, I didn't have a way of coming to the point, at that stage, of showing them they're wrong, because I didn't know what they believed. They wouldn't tell me. I didn't know that they were started by a person, who is a very ignorant person, who didn't have a college degree, and he felt bad about that, bitter about that, so he started to write tracts, that have high, hyper-luminated language, so that he could feel good about himself. I've read those tracts. I fell asleep halfway through. Not really, but I felt like it. It was impossible almost to finish them. And what many people, although there are intellectual people who fall for that movement, many people fall for that movement, because they also feel inferior, and they feel great, having hyper-luminated language, and high standard, and yet they seem so pure. And later on, they're hard, because they don't have so many doctrines to pinpoint that's wrong, because they're so vague, but they don't believe the doctrine of Christ. And then I went to the Jehovah's Witnesses who got saved, one of them, and he was a cult expert, and I said to him, listen, what do these people believe? And he said, I'd love to tell you. And he just told me. I said, cool, that's amazing. Now I know. Next time I met them, I knew what to say, to a greater degree. It's as simple as that. I didn't have to go 15 thick books about them. I just needed a few simple things. But Roy, some people say, let's say I have to go to the Hindus, and I have to learn, can't I just know the gospel? I mean, if I have to go to the Hindus, they've got 50 million gods. Do I have to learn about every single god, and how to go against those gods? I mean, they've got so many views that have changed through the ages, and all these different things that have changed. Do I have to learn everything before I can learn to bring a Hindu to Christ? No. In fact, you don't have to do what I'm saying anyway to bring a Hindu to Christ. The gospel can bring a Hindu to Christ, but something that people don't realize is that each religion and each cult have what I call foundational lies. You've got the house of a million Hindu gods and all these things and different things they believe, and you've got about, if I look at the Hindu belief, because we've got one million Hindus in South Africa, I sit with them for hours and witness to them. There's about five, there are millions of gods, but only about five foundational lies that will bring the whole, if you take the foundation out, only about five you have to learn, and then how to tackle it. Of course, it takes time and you get better over time and as you learn the Bible and you spend time with the Bible, but it's not that you have to now become this Greek expert. You'll find that people ask you hard questions and it's good to go home to find out what the answer is. If you speak to a Hindu person, just for instance, you'll say to them, if I've got a long time, I'll show them the differences between Christianity and Hinduism, then I'll bring my testimony saying I'm a right, then I'll go through the entire Bible showing them who God is from the beginning, how other gods came about, the Ten Commandments, and so on, and go right through the Bible to Jesus and how he died, substitution and death and all those things, and at each point I'll counter what they believe about Jesus who was an enlightened one, escaped the law of karma, but every little thing, their idea of karma and the punishment for sin, their history of time, I'll counter that with the Bible. But if I've only got five minutes with a Hindu person, I might go to the Ten Commandments and say, listen, you're a sinner, it says here that you may not have no other gods. And then he'll look at me and he'll say, is that so? Well, you guys have many names for God in your Bible. We just have different names for your God. We all come to the same God and we've got different names, you've got different names. In your Bible, it's not just one name. And of course, that's very easy to answer. The names of God give different aspects of the character of God, and yet in the Bible you can show them that the heathen gods God said you're not allowed to have, and how those gods came about. But then he said, now wait a minute, you say we're not allowed other gods, but you've got three gods. And of course, that's also very easy to answer. I'm not going to answer that now, for real, because I want someone else to. And you speak to the Jehovah's Witnesses and you tell them the earth is going to end and you open up Revelation and they look at that and they say, well, let's go to Psalms and it says the earth will never end. And your verse says the earth will end and their verse says the earth will never end. So, okay, sure. They go and join and they say, well, the Father is greater than I. How can you say they won if he says the Father is greater than I? There's easy answers to those things. But I mean, when you first meet different people on the streets from different backgrounds, whether it's Jehovah's Witnesses, Hindus, Catholics, whatever, some of them are going to have pretty hard, hard questions. One of those stupid questions would just, judge not that they'll be not judged, they say to you. And you have to explain to them from the Bible what those verses really mean. Because every time you say anything, they're just going to say, judge not, judge not, judge not, judge, judge, judge, judge not. And that is, I mean, if you just went to those scriptures and show them what it's really talking about. And by the way, those scriptures are misused by Christians all over the world. A very famous preacher I heard the other day preaching on judge not. A brilliant sermon. But he took the verses totally out of context. He tried to show that Christians should not judge people and have a critical spirit. It has nothing to do with that. Romans 2 verse 1 has to do with the Jews judging the gentiles. Etcetera, etcetera. Titus holding forth. It says, Holding forth the faith the word is having taught they may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. How do we convince the gainsayers? With the word of God. 2 Timothy 2 verse 15 Study to show thyself approved unto God a workman that he is not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. Acts 18 verse 24 Apollos was mighty in the scriptures. And what did that lead to? Mightily convincing the Jews who actually believed the scriptures. And I mean I've got nothing nothing against people who know a lot of cars and I don't know about the people who know a lot of sports and know a lot of beers and stuff. But people are mighty in so many things but the scriptures. And I'll tell you why. One little reason. OK This is God's exception if you don't take the Bible in context and study the context. But it's time. They've got time to study cars. They've got time to study computers. They've got time to study this. They've got time to study that. But they don't have time to slowly and it's not going to happen in a day. You want to get mighty in the scriptures? Go for one hour read your Bible and I can guarantee by the end of one hour you're not mighty in the scriptures. And God's not going to send lightning down from heaven because in one hour you didn't become mighty. It's going to take time. Slowly but surely as you study the Bible in context as you look for answers for other people as this Bible says holding fast the faithful word why? That you may be able by sound doctrine both to avoid and exhort and to convince the gainsayers. That's why one of the reasons one of the reasons why you should study the scripture and you must by single verses and by sound doctrine exhort and convince the gainsayers. And you know what that takes? Just Peter was a fisherman and he became mighty in the scriptures. He didn't I mean what did he do? He sat at the feet of Jesus probably with his Bible as we can. And he looked at the remembered to look at the context. And the next thing is we should not pray with a soul if that soul is not ripe. John 4 verse 35 says say not that there are four months until the harvest behold I send you lift up your eyes and look to the fields for they are white or ready to the harvest. And some people say look everybody's ready you just have to show them the gospel and they must just say I accept Jesus Christ and they're ready. That's not the Bible I read. The rich young man came to Jesus. He came to Jesus and said how shall I have eternal life? What did Jesus say? He didn't say oh wonderful can I tell you four little things. You are a sinner. I'm going to die for you. And if you accept me into your life you become a Christian. Kneel down shall I do that? He never did that. He said you must leave all you have. He tried to show the person he's got greed covetousness in his heart. He honed in on his sin and he found out as he knew that that person was not willing to leave his sin. And if you are not willing to leave certain sin I'm not saying able but willing then you're not repentant. If anything to you is more important than meeting with Jesus then you're not repentant. I'm not saying able because God only can set you free from this. You know I met a man in Danville South Africa. I was preaching there to a few different places and a whole group of people were there. One man was sitting in the back. He came to me afterwards he said Roy Roy I I've listened to your message and I just realised you know God set me free from drugs a few years back and I want God to set me free from drink right now. You know an untrained soul one might just say wow a soul ok cool sit down let's talk and this is I'm going to pray for you and God's going to set you free and you're probably going to ride with God. I didn't do that not because I don't love him but because I don't want to fill earth with false comrades. I said to him listen that's drunk and that's drink you know let's have a look at a few other sins lying sleeping around lust in your heart concerning pornography and different things and I mentioned these different things to him and I said are you willing to leave those not able I explained to him that God can set him free he said no at this stage I'm not willing to leave those things and immediately I could see he's not ready to be saved you should be careful not to pray with someone before finding out and mentioning a few sins by name you can explain to him leaving those things won't save you but if you're not willing to leave them your heart isn't contrite of your sins I met a boy at school same thing I preach at the school and this doesn't happen in every school but God really came down in that meeting and there were literally one boy was for three hours crying on the ground calling out to God for mercy writing down all his sins the next day he came and testified I've been saved other boys very scared under that message but you know not ripe yet awakened but not ripe not ready to be saved because why they still are not willing to give up certain things one said to me he said Roy I'm so scared after your message I realized I'm not right with God and he said Roy I'm a good boy I only drink one beer I've been keeping myself from doing the really bad stuff because I want to become head brother of the school and I want to get saved so I said I want to be honest with you and I explained to him the whole gospel and everything but then I explained to him this one little thing you have to count the cost I know at school I was at public school and I didn't do all these things but you're going to have to give up your friends you're not going to be able to go to the places they go to anymore there's a whole lot of things and I just named them not because those things were saved but because if he's not willing to give up those things he's not ready to be saved and he said Roy I want to be honest with you I'm so after your message wanting to get saved but I don't know if I can give those things up I said I'm going to thank you for being honest because many people aren't and I'm going to tell you one day when you're honest you can find me I'll give you my number but one day when you're ready but until you're ready to give those things up you're not ready and I prayed for him for God to make him ready and yet many people oh I want to get saved but I'm oh don't worry God will set you free from those things even if you don't want to give them up now when we go around from door to door many people God is not in all his thoughts they're not thinking of God and you come to the door and you speak to different people the one door they say goodbye God the next door they say goodbye God the next door they say I'm from South Africa cool bye God and the third door and eventually the twentieth door you might get someone you can speak to for a little while and after a while you see he's not very interested and goodbye God a few more doors and eventually you get one person you speak to and you see that after a while he starts to take note and he starts to think you're I'm sorry I think you might be right there and you speak to him and he starts to but you see he's awakening out of his out of his sleep but he's not ripe yet now there's two problems one you mustn't pray with him because you'll get a false convert and the second thing is you don't want to leave him because perhaps he's beginning to awake of course you can give him his number or whatever but it's so good to take with you good material with for a Catholic there's a and again some of these things I don't agree always with the people who do them perfectly they're good Christians but I don't agree with all the things they do but there's a there's a there's a movie a DVD documentary called Tears from Heaven it's not a movie it's a documentary and it talks about the Catholics and it's so pro-Catholic I've I've watched it it talks about the different shrines hundred thousand places across the world where they have millions of Catholics coming together to where Mary manifests herself the messages of Mary that you must obey the Bible that you must read the Bible that you must pray that you must follow Jesus and it sounds so good they give testimonies of Catholics who radically their lives would change when they had this manifestation and all the way through for about half an hour it's just pro-Catholic and then suddenly it asks a question it doesn't catch the people it asks a legitimate question it says now is these things biblical? suddenly and then it starts to bring the unbiblicalness of all these things from the Bible and at the very end it brings the Gospel and so clearly I cried when I listened to that Gospel it's a clear cut good Gospel and you know if you give that to a Catholic you're not going to offend him it's the kind of thing that doesn't offend him but attacks him and yet you can't believe how many Catholics have been saved through little things like that and the statistics show it to take something like that with you you meet a Catholic wouldn't you like to learn about yourself? I mean how wonderful and it's a very nice DVD in Africa I take around with me a few things I take a CD around with me salvation series starting with the testimony I take a marriage and salvation series with seven messages on marriage and one on salvation I take the pineapple stories around with me on CD there are non-copyright versions by the way we phone up the Queen and ask them and we got them and I can tell you where to get it if you want and you know I love it I spoke to unsaved people they don't want to listen some of them really don't my cousins some of them really aren't interested in having a Bible study I said to my brother my cousin don't you want a Bible study? he's like no can I preach? no I give them the pineapple stories this is amazing 11 hours they just listen to it again and again and they're hearing truths of true salvation of different things in between it's not as good as some other sermons but at least they're hearing some truth I gave it to farmers in Africa they listened to it some of their lives were radically changed I gave it to one man whose life was broken up he went to work and they're not allowed to listen to music in work so he's there listening to the pineapple stories hours and hours right through the day and the supervisor comes in you're not allowed to listen to music I'm not listening to music he goes off they never had a rule against sermons because they never thought anybody would listen to it I love it I walk up into houses now many times you walk through broken houses everywhere there's broken houses that's true people divorcing many times you'll find one person who is broken over who really wants to fix it up even though they're not really willing for the cost but they broke it and I meet these people and I say to them in groups I say to them listen he has a CD it's got whole things of marriage and I give them testimonies of people whose lives were changed through that marriage they say please give it to me they unsaved but that's what they want then I cleverly insert a very good salvation message in between because I know they're not saved probably and so they listen to all this about marriage and when it comes to salvation they hear the message of salvation if I gave them something of salvation they'd chuck it away I bought one guy a meal I bought him a bus crop in South Africa he was in this town I'm a missionary I'm poor but this guy was really poor he travelled down from another town sitting there and he couldn't get away he'd lost his job and he didn't know how to get back to his parents 12 hours drive away he didn't know how to get away so it's a very cheap $10 bus ticket but I bought it for him and he was so excited about that I said yes my father's stuff listen to him I gave it to him little thing he like comes to me he's in tears like this guy I mean I can't believe what he's saying it's good to take stuff around now I'd just like to mention something about tracts that I find so many good Christians do wrong a few things about tracts when I was first this is my first mistake when I was a young Christian I thought if I pray for hours and I read my Bible for hours God will use anything to save people so I used to take tracts from the shelf yep we're going to give out tracts didn't even read them gave them out hey you can I talk to you about the Lord he has a tract and I used to do that as a young saved person unfortunately I never read them I didn't realize that some of them were just you're born with your name in the book of life and later your name gets taken out of the book of life and it was rubbish tracts and someone rebuked me about that you know and I was so cross and then I read the stuff I was giving out and I said oh man my one friend he takes tracts Bible studies deep deep I love him Bible studies but even I struggle to read through them I'm sorry and he goes and he gives them to little children and I said to him listen couldn't you give something I'm not talking about a worldly gospel or a watered down gospel couldn't you give something that's more for a child that can at least understand the language like God will use his word well I said ok sure you can use the verses in the mattoon but if they ever get to the verses before throwing them away no no God will use his word see people are so impractical tracts some tracts are written before the 1800's or in the 1800's and that's fine I love them I love reading them but remember if you deal with a religious person and a local evangelical it's two different types of people many of those tracts for the 1800's were written for religious people people who believe they're good therefore go to heaven and they believe in God ok so you read the tracts which many I've met so many people give out these tracts and if I read that as a local evangelical I'd say Amen Amen I've accepted Jesus Amen Amen I've accepted Jesus cool tracts I've accepted Jesus Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted I've accepted Jesus Jesus I've accepted I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus Jesus Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus I've accepted I've accepted Jesus I've accepted Jesus Jesus I've accepted I've accepted That's just my way, because I like to bring a few other sins to make them start to think before I bash them with the gospel. And the hellfire and brimstone. Five hours, that's what I got in some schools in Africa. Then I'll do foundation laying. Many people in the schools, you ask them, who's Peter? One guy says, he was with Noah and the Ark, wasn't he? Who was Adam's son? And they're not toki. And many evangelical children, they teach them how to dance, but they don't teach them the Bible. And that's why, when you talk about sin, they don't know what sin is. When you talk about Jesus, it's a name. Jesus must save you, sure, I'll say Jesus must save me. But if you, and this people disagree with, I agree, but I'll tell you why I agree with it sometimes, if I've got five hours. I might have four hours just telling them Bible stories, and then bring them the gospel. I did it at one school, one town, preached 23 hours, I think, that week, just in the mornings, then learned the message in the evening. At the different schools, in one school we just bring individual messages, and the kids laughed at us. The other school, sinners, just like the same town, we brought the Bible, we solely taught them who God was, and mentioned that the earth is only 6,000 years old, really, and that we don't come from AIDS, even though some of our teachers look like that. And we went on, and we went through Adam and Eve, and we went through Cain and Abel, and we went through all the sinners, and we went through the, you can't just forget about God, we have a nice ark that, you know, everybody dies who doesn't think about God, and things that can go their own way. Bringing all these principles, the Ten Commandments, what is sin, going on and mentioning the Christian, how Jesus Christ came down and lived a perfect life, and by that time they knew who Jesus was because he was the creator God, and you taught them all these things, and then the very last day I stand up and give my testimony. I say, listen guys, I was born, guess what, I've got a big chart, I'm born, Adam's son, son, son, son, son is born a sinner, spiritual, cut off from God, I've explained, it's obviously longer than this. I said, well I was also born a sinner, now they know, okay, but why do they know, because they see it on the chart, because they remember it from history, and so you go on, and they listen, and they're enthralled, you know, they walked up to me in the street, they look for me, they phone me to talk to me, sometimes they just break, crying for an hour. The other school, they laugh, why, what's the difference, one is a biblical foundation, and at the other school, by the way, there were those who didn't laugh, who prayed for salvation, and that's not important to me, they really changed, but at this school there was so much more, what's the difference, the biblical foundation, you can be against that, that's fine, I know people are, but it works, and it's biblical, anybody here want to tell me it's unbiblical to teach the Bible, some people do, they say we have to start with the gospel, in Africa they do that, everywhere they go, they preach the gospel, they say there's Jesus, sure, we've never heard of Jesus before, they carry on with their forefather worship, and they become Christians, the people with the best effect in Africa, yes, here and there, you preach the Ten Commandments like great comfort, one or two of them get saved, most of them come out for salvation, they go back into forefather worship, you know the people who have the best effect in Africa, no backslides, mostly, is the people who come there and take a long time, not two years like new tribes, I think I mean 24 hours, stay there for a month, teaching them the Bible, and then what happens, then they give the gospel, very clearly what you have to repent for, and they make sure, you're praying if you don't want to leave those things, and afterwards if you pray, I'm going to stay here for another week just to make sure you leave it, those people stay for the Lord, and lastly, page 11, I'd like to focus on the liberal evangelical, what do you do when you meet someone, who says I am saved, but you can see they're not saved, or number one there's different things, and just remember one thing from previously, you have different personalities, you'll speak to one person, one person might be a dark cloud, and he's not a sightless, he's in deep bitterness, you tell him about Adam and Eve, you tell him the whole way back through the Bible, you explain to him that we don't come from apes, you prove it to him and he's going to laugh at you, one reason he's bitter and he doesn't care what you say, another person he really just didn't know, is there any darkness in his sin, you talk, whoa, we don't come from apes, serious, I always thought so, I said to someone yesterday, you know, they said don't we come from apes, I said listen, I come from Aperica, I've seen the apes, we don't come from apes, well the first thing I'd use as a liberal evangelical, obviously this isn't just a thing that works, but what I try, if I've got time, if I've got an open door to them, I use my testimony, I say listen, I was where you are, and I don't even have to say that, because you say I'm using my testimony, you're not saying you are a sinner, I'm saying I was a sinner, that's less confrontational and has the same effect, I say okay, well I grew up this way and I prayed there and it didn't, nothing happened, why did nothing happen, and I explained to them why nothing happened, the wrong motives, and eventually I get to the point where it did happen, and the truth fruit, and if this isn't on your life, you're not saved, and I go to one John and I explain to them, and you can point out the motives, like I did in my testimony, wrong motives have been saved, and therefore they will not be fruit, and you can go to one John and read the fruit, there's no feelings, I've got wonderful feelings, sometimes I just jump up and down, it's so wonderful, but even though there are feelings sometimes, it's nothing to do with feelings, and sometimes I go through times where I feel nothing, nothing, nothing, because Mitch gave me a sickness, use church history, I've mentioned this before, Methodists, I love the old Methodists, do you know how many churches came from John Wesley, let's name it, the Methodists, you can name them, the Nazarenes, came out of the Methodist church, the Wesleyans, the Bible Methodists, the Bible Wesleyans, you've got a few million people there, so you sit, you often meet them, and I sit there, what do I do, I can see this person, if I take them on, they're not going to think I'm taking them on, which church are you, Methodist, oh wonderful Methodist, you know what, John Wesley was in the Methodist church, can I tell you about him, sure you can, do you know who started your church, oh I've heard about him, you know when he preached, you know you get excited about their church, who's going to get offended with you if you're excited about their church, man he preached repentance the whole time, no no, I don't do that, but I slowly explained to them his message, and bring them to the point, leaving out a few things that were wrong in his message, and you showed them, you actually used their church to preach against them, have you ever tried that, it's simple, and then you can bring your testimony, and then you have, you know I don't, Paul Washer has disappointed me in that he likes a little bit of rap music now and then, and things like that, and he's a little too Calvinistic for me, but I must admit one thing, I've met people who were never shocked by my messages, who were radically shocked by his messages, and as the body of Christ, where we can use other, not Benny Hinn, you know, chuck him out, but where you can use someone, and it's not dangerous to use them, if you take that CD, I don't give these CDs out, but for instance I've got a friend Vincent Pieta, he was in a charismatic church, he never worried about his soul because he was a Christian, until one day he listened to Paul Washer shocking his message, and he realized Christianity is not about jumping up and down and being free, it's about the narrow way, and what, perhaps I would have never shocked him, he was shocked, and he got radically insane, like it's been an hour preaching against Paul Washer, but I don't mind giving one or two CDs out to people individually who I know this will really help them, not just generally to everybody because it's dangerous, they might become, you know there's Catholics and there's Calvinists. Lastly, don't assume people will say it, people are zealous, well the Jews had a zeal after God, but not after knowledge, for God, but not after knowledge, the Seventh Day Adventists, some of them are saying it probably, I struggle with that a bit sometimes, but people are so zealous and yet they're wrong, shiny eyed people, I've met so many people as I mentioned who are Satanists, who have shiny eyes, of my family, they're not Satanists, but they're such nice guys, totally unsaved, but yuck, they're shiny. Other guys who are, and they're wonderfully saved, you just get them going with the Bible, but they, it's just their personality, they might be tired at that time. People have a testimony, it doesn't mean they're saved, they can say I was saved that day, it doesn't mean they're saved. They experienced miracles, a girl came up to me and said, right, I was in this rock band, and they were singing of Jesus, and as they sang, do, do, do, do, suddenly I had this feeling of peace, as if a burden went off me. Wow, that sounds like salvation, doesn't it? No. Sounds like she had an experience, when she was singing rock music. And it affects your adrenaline gains, by the way. I said to her, you know, she said to me, you know, but I've got a problem, I really love the world, you know, I love to go to the pubs and all these places. I explained to her, you know, love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. Amen, love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. Not just individual failure, you love it. Oh no, I'm not saved. The fruit. Don't assume because people have radical experiences, and even jump up and down excited about Jesus, that they're saved. Don't assume that if people jump up and down about Jesus, they're not saved either. You have to ask yourself the question, ask them, what happened when they were saved? You don't have to get this, that it has to be that they threw the television out immediately, it might come a few months later, and it's standard. It's not that they're going to be exactly your standards immediately. But you have to ask them the question as far as the Bible goes, nothing more, nothing less, and by the way, I'm not preaching for television, please throw it everywhere, has anybody got television? Throw it out, unless it's got no monitor and you only listen to Paul Washington, I'm joking. What happened when that person was saved? Why did he come to be saved? I heard a guy who was a sportsman, I want to be like him, he's my role model, and he's saved, so I became saved. Why did he get saved? Look for signs of biblical fruit, look through 1 John and say, is this there, or does he love the world? You can't believe how some people are so excited, they sign about Jesus, but just ask them a few of the things they do, and it's like, huh? Do you love that stuff? Yeah, sure, we're under grace, man. And yet they also say, sometimes we must obey the Bible, we must obey the Bible, but what they mean is the parts of the Bible that are true, and you have to ask them questions to find those things out. And then lastly, be lenient on your own standards. I will preach to unsaved people, they must wear modest clothing. I will preach to saved people, they must wear modest clothing. But I will not preach that everybody, how can I put it, that wearing modest clothing will save you, neither will I preach that everybody who hasn't got perfect modern clothing is unsaved. I want them to wear modest clothing as a Christian. If they're wearing up to years ago and whatever, then of course they're not saved, unless something radically is strange. But there are certain things that are our standards, which are biblical standards many times, which we need to teach. Sometimes the Holy Spirit immediately will tell them, sometimes later through teaching the Holy Spirit will use a preacher. As He did for salvation, so He sometimes does for standards, although we mustn't make sure it doesn't become a legalistic thing that we teach and they become, because we said. The third point, the third thing I was going to preach on this morning, it's not a little bit of the practical this morning, a little bit of the message this morning, second time a little bit of the spiritual. It's not going to be such a long message. I met a missionary in Africa a few weeks back, at this town, I went into his house, never met him before, used to be an armistice years back, and he looked at me and after a while said, Roy, you are a natural leader. And then he so disappointed me apart from saying that, which is, he said, you should leave your mission, because God intends greater things for you. And then he showed me videos of how he started missionary work across the world, 124 lands he's got missionaries. His budget is three times bigger than our mission or something like that, probably much bigger than that. And he said, Roy, your mission, I was there, they are going to strangle you and make you little. You need to be a leader. You need to be a leader. And he showed me all the souls that were saved. And he said, Roy, I can tell you, God's telling you, you need to be a leader. Either you have to take over your whole mission yourself, strange guy, or you have to be a leader. And I mean, he had a bit of evidence, he had missionaries in 123 lands, you see him going down the rivers, he's a really dedicated guy. I said to him all, seven times at least in the New Testament, it says submit to your parents, to your master, to your church, in Hebrew it's stating. In different places it says submit. More than that than being a leader. Very little about leader, but one seventh of the amount of verses telling you to be a leader or how to be a leader, seven times more at least, talks about how to be a follower. No, brother, you haven't got it right. God is telling me and showing me you are going to be swallowed up by your mission. And he had, as I said, 123 lands to back. Huge organization. And I'm sure some souls got saved because he had a reasonable message. But, you know, I went home to my boss and I told him about it, out of interest. I was trying not to laugh actually. And because I'm so fulfilled in my mission, you know, being a lower guy. I mean, I'm sitting in the middle of Natal, we've got probably one less, just one less, most of the Hindus are there, so you've got less than a million Hindus, just about 900,000 an hour. You've got all these Muslims, you've got one town, there's the Muslim district, the black people's district, the white people's district, you've got all the different churches you've got in America basically, except all the independents, and a few more actually. And then you've got the Hindu part, and it's just like, it's a missionary paradise. I don't have to go to India to go to India, I just turn that way. If I want to go to Iraq, then I go that way. And there's just as much gunfights. It's an amazing place to be. I don't have to become this big leader going across the world to all these countries to be fulfilled. In fact, I don't even need where I am right now to be fulfilled, you need Jesus to be fulfilled. I would be nothing, nothing, nothing. We go out to them because we're indebted to them not to be a great leader and a great preacher. And if you've lost that, I wouldn't say you've lost everything, you've lost close to everything. Now just a few things. We have to live Jesus to people. You're not going to live Jesus if you want to be a leader. By the way, I spoke to my boss, he said that particular person, he worked with him years back, he said he worked underneath me. And one thing I noticed about him, he could never submit. There was no way. But he became a great leader, he got what he wanted. But I believe God gave him this request and sent Linus on his soul. And I wonder what he saw in me to be like him. I wasn't being humble enough that day. Anger. I've mentioned it before. If you're angry, if you witness to people, you can give the perfect message, all the different points, you can tell them everything that you're supposed to tell them, everything that will prove them wrong. And if you're angry in front of them, there are people, I've seen cases where someone was angry and God used in spite of that anger, the people got saved. But in general, you'll turn people off. Just be patient, the Bible says. A little bit of practicalness, because this is going to be a short session. Torrey said, alright Torrey, do you want me to use the right hand man? He said, if you've got three people, or two people, or four people, or five people, generally it's good, unless you're really, really spiritual, which I'm not always, to let one person take the lead. Obviously you shouldn't have Benny Hinn as one of the people to take the lead in the first place, but of the people who know their Bible reasonings, you should have one person take the lead. Why? Because generally, people, if you're having a debate, you talk too much. I've got the answer and you've got the answer. You don't give him time to talk. One of the most important things in soul winning is give them a chance to speak. I sit there for a long time and they're willing to speak, some of them aren't, and I'll just let them speak. Some of them are quiet, so I'll just speak, speak, speak, speak. But I mean, honestly, I'll let them, I'll say something, and they love to speak, and I'll speak about my, everything. And then I'll speak again, and I'll ask them questions, and they'll answer. Let them talk about their family, let them talk about their, whatever. But, I've seen this, I once went to a soul with a friend of mine, and he was saying a little off from the right answer, and I thought I got a better answer. And he wasn't really saying wrong, my friend, it was just I had a different aspect. It wasn't like he was saying, you only get saved by falling over, or something like that. He was saying reasonable stuff. And I decided, no, I've got a better answer, so I came from my side, and he came from his side, and I came from my side, and he came from his side. At the end of the day, we just ruined it. We ruined that situation. And many times, some people, I've got friends, I can work with them. I go door to door, we know each other. I mean, he'll know when to speak, I'll know when to speak, we'll know when to keep quiet. But sometimes, I just keep quiet. Because the other guy just talks, and talks. He doesn't give that person a chance. If I add anything, I'm more not giving him a chance to speak. You're just turning him away. That's the little practical side of the spiritual side. Obviously, I'm going to recap, but the first thing I'm going to say to them is, trust in Jesus. Utterly trust in Jesus. Don't put pressure on yourself when you speak to yourself. Be broken over them, but don't go there having to make them a Christian. Go there to tell them the truth about their state, and what is the truth. Let the light of God break through the Holy Spirit. Prayer. Pray on your own. You know, it's not always easy. Prayer is labour, the Bible says in Colossians. It's something we have to choose to do. We don't always feel led to do it. Sometimes I feel led to pray. Let's go pray! But most times, I think, okay, when can I get a time to pray? Let's go away from all my friends and go for a walk. Because with your friends, you just love to talk. That's one of the things I love to do. Get people to pray for you. Oh, when I was young, and I still do, you travel far. I'd rather. Listen to this. You can get a thousand liberal people to pray. They've got Jericho Wars in South Africa. Millions of non-Christians praying. They say, they say it. Let's get everybody to pray. Does that help? Is there power in that? No. If you phone a great preacher, if you're all phoning the guy in South Africa, Billy Murray, he knows his Bible off by heart. Really, he does. Absolutely. He knows his Bible off by heart. From verse 1 to the last verse, he knows the Greek off by heart, the Hebrew off by heart, the Latin off by heart. He can quote the entire Bible. He's one of my greatest preachers. When he went out of the country, they started saying about his church, huge nomination across South Africa started saying, let's approve gay marriage and stuff like that. They were so scared of him. I mean, the professors bring all this Greek and stuff to disprove the Bible. He just said, my little child. I've listened to him. It's scary. You don't take him on. And so many souls have been saved through him. But if I phone him and everybody phoned him, you wouldn't get much prayer, would you? Even though he's a godly guy who prays for hours. I'd rather find an old lady who's truly saved, who not many people know about, and get to be friends with her on the phone, and get her praying for me. Then the great Valimaret. I never phone Valimaret to ask him to pray for me. If I met him, I'd ask him. And that's what you do. You get people, you get young people, little kids that are saved. You know they're saved. Encourage them to pray with you. I do that. I go around praying with little kids. They phone me on the phone. Roy, when are you coming again? I'm not coming then. Little kids love big kids. And yet big kids think they can only pray with big kids. They cry if I don't come to them. And I just play with them and pray with them. I mean, pretty simple. I love kids. There's one kid who comes up to me and says, hey Roy, let's pray. Okay, five years old. Let's pray. We go outside and pray. Oh Lord, help us here. And he's praying so much. I thought, this is a saint. This guy only reads his Bible twelve hours a day. He's not a kid. And then suddenly he says, wait! In the middle of his prayer. That's stunning. Wow man. This is so amazing. Yeah Lord. And he carries on. I love kids. It's just absolutely amazing. I wish I had 50 of them. We'll see what happens. Great preachers. Just get people praying. I once phoned a revivalist. A guy had revival. Encourage people to pray for your soul winning. This is going off another trend. It's prayer and, you know. Praying for soul winning. But let's just talk about prayer. I phoned a guy who had revival. He brought my great-grandson to the Lord. He, in here, it was Durban Central Prison. For two weeks they cried down the corridors in brokenness. The prisoners brought each other to the Lord. He tried to start 13 churches at the same time at one stage. He was so on fire for God. My dad used to use it. When he's old age people forgot about it. And he started to lose his fire. And I phoned him. I didn't know about this. I just said, can I come visit you? I visited him. I visited him a lot. I said, phone him. Please pray for me all the time. Please pray for me every few weeks. He told my dad once. He never told me. I got my fire back. By a little boy who's done nothing. He didn't say those words, but it's true. Just phoning. Saying pray for me. And boy he's on fire. You'll see that revivalist. I love him. Now when you come to pray, some people kind of claim that you have to almost earn the prayer. You have to pray. They claim they have an idol or philosophy. They say, yeah, these days they're absolutely dead. And so the true praying is to pray and pray and pray and pray until we bring heaven down. And that's very dangerous, because if you get a certain level of emotionalism, people have been known that demons start to manifest in people's lives. I know people like that. Suddenly, they were praying to God, but they brought themselves up to such an emotional state, praying to God, that their minds started down. It was like a trance. And when that happened, horrible things happened to them. But they were trying to build themselves up. And that's true. Some people do it and it works, but they don't get up to that level. But that's not, you don't have to earn your right to speak to God. You must have a burden. You must pray. You must pray from your heart. But when you pray to God, Jesus died, therefore we can come to God. Obviously, if we're living in sin, well, if you sin today, ask God for forgiveness and mean it. And then you can pray. If you're living in sin, we're going to get saved. If you're just a normal person, you're struggling at times, you come to God because of what? The blood of Jesus Christ. In one moment. You don't have to build it up. You don't have to say, after 30 minutes, the guy's going to get saved. This guy comes out not by pre-enforcing. True, I do. And it's wonderful. I know a person in South Africa. He preached. He's dead now. He was an old friend of mine. He preached for about 40 years. I don't know how many years. Over those 40 years, he never got a soul. One old godly man prays hours every morning. Yes, he prays for hours. Nothing wrong with that. It's good to pray hours. It's good to pray one hour. It's good to pray two hours. It's good to pray three hours. It's good to pray one hour as well. It's not bad. It's not, this is good and that's bad. It's good to pray much. Anyway, he came to him and he said, listen, brother, I've been, this is not the guy who prays so much, this is the other guy who preaches. And he prays. And he said, listen, I've for so many years preached and not one soul comes to the Lord. And he didn't go, this guy said, let me pray for you. He didn't go around to his knees. He just said, dear father, please give, brother, and he named his name, a soul soon. A week later, he had his first soul, not soul that came out radically saved. And it was the last soul he ever got. But the point is now, God I believe answered that prayer of that godly man. Did he have to pray for 30 minutes before? No. It's good to pray for 30 minutes. It's good to pray for an hour. But you must believe that sometimes when you just pray a sentence, God can answer. Because you come through the blood of Jesus Christ. Other times, it's good to pray through as they call it. But that's not the only way, some people would say. I mean some people, some people say you only get answered if you pray out loud. Hannah prayed in her heart. This whole book is written about praying out loud, which is fine and it works, but so does praying in your heart. Not at all. You must pray for doors. Pray for laborers. There's a few things you can pray for. The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few. Pray there for the Lord. He'll harvest it. He'll send forth laborers into his harvest. Not your harvest. You're not the leader who takes over the world. It's his harvest. George Muller wanted to have people going forth to preach the gospel out of his church. And nothing much was happening, I think. And then he eventually started praying. And they prayed. And they prayed. Lord, send forth laborers. You said that's the way it must go. I think 70 people from his church eventually went. Any church of the year with 70 missionaries? By prayer. God said by prayer, so there it is. Pray, obviously you must also preach, but pray. Pray for doors. I know a person in Africa, one of those churches, obviously I mentioned there's some doors are just amazing ideas like chalk art. But this one person, he honestly prayed day by day by day by day. Lord, open up the door of this one dead church. My father was a minister there. Across the country, millions of people in this church. Open up the door every single day. Other people are like, why are you praying? I mean, it's so obvious, they're clones. There came a day after years when God answered that prayer, where suddenly those doors started opening in that church. He went to those churches. And in South Africa, he preached. 100 people the first night, 200 people the next. He was in a mission. 300, 400, up to 600 people coming from all over the town, listening to him preach. Lord, children in tears. Broken. And that was just an answer to prayer. He also knows much of his Bible. But I mean, he didn't just get the door, he prayed and prayed. And God does answer those prayers. Colossians 4 verse 3, and sometimes only a few years later, so keep on praying. And think of ideas. Isn't God perhaps not just opening the door, he's giving me an idea how that door can open. Let's try it. If it doesn't work, well, it didn't work. Try something else. Colossians 4 verse 3, as I said before, with all praying also for us that God would open unto us a door of utterance. Paul says to speak the mystery of Christ. We must pray for people in other lands to have doors. And pray for the people in prison to have doors. There's people who are, I think in the last 100 years, the most bloodthirsty martyred, Christian martyr, century of them all. Over 100 million people died in the name of Christ. Much more than other centuries. And if you think about that, there's people in prison right now, a lot of people in prison. In Sudan they bomb you with, they take supersonic jets, they go over you and they bomb churches. They've killed I think over a million Christians there. One country. Christians, not all Christians, but they stand up for Christians and many of them are Christians. And you have to think to yourself, these guys need prayer. Hebrews 13 verse 3, remember them that are in bonds, is bound with them. And them which suffer adversity is being yourselves also in the body. You must pray for those in bonds that they might have even doors to preach the gospel and that they might be able to sustain themselves and not give up. Lastly, second lastly, we should get to the point where we're not jealous with those being used more than you. I struggle with it. I wanted to be used in revival. Lord give me revival. I pray Lord use me. But I sometimes pray Lord use him more than me. And I mean it. I once prayed for an entire day for us that day and I remembered about three o'clock in the afternoon, it just, it came a point where God broke through my heart and I just wished everybody on earth could get used in spite of me never getting used, as long as someone gets used. Two preachers in South Africa who became great preachers and they used to sit preaching with each other in our mission. One preached, the other preached. One preached, one other preached. You know what they testified later? I don't know if one or both, but I think it was both. They used to sit there praying, Lord please no one respond what he preaches. And they honestly did that. And you know, I remember I wasn't a guy who was really jealous of people and angry, but there was times when the devil came and he started making me, he's spoken to a few more than you and he's done a bit more than you and he spoke better than you and a few more people came out and what do the people think about that? And you don't think about it, but you do think about it. You've got to get to the point where that, and perhaps you have to get into it daily, die daily, but really it's not about that. Do your best, don't get so, not about that I can do what I want and I can do a bad job for God and it's fine. No, you pray, you prepare your sermon, you prepare yourself to go forth, you go forth, you give the best arguments you can, but you don't go forth trying to be better than other people. You'll just lead to depression and false converts. I can guarantee you it did. The other thing you have to realize is it's a spiritual warfare. You only pray, you ask God to resist Satan. And there's a lot of funny things going on out there like this, you've got the churches where they see Satan every single Friday, the Universal Church in South Africa get all their congregation together to chuck out the demons that they got during the week. That's all I'm talking about. But I do know that Satan is warring over souls. And sometimes when you speak to people, you actually have to ask God, rebuke him away, so that something can come through. My one uncle, great uncle, he said he was speaking to this person, nothing could get through and then he asked God, rebuke Satan away, and that moment suddenly he could hear and he could get the message through to that person. And that's not something you should go into as a doctrine or something you have to do all the time or something that every single time we turn around in another direction we have to pray or something like that. It's just something that you might have to do sometimes, asking God, when you go out, protect us, the people that we're speaking to. Rebuke thou the devil away from them. And lastly, Matthew 28 verse 18, And Jesus came and spake unto them, and this is not the end of what we're doing now, in case anybody was hopeful. Matthew 28 verse 18, Jesus came and spake unto them saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and earth. Go ye therefore and teach all nations. And that's a command. Tonight I'm going to do something totally different on the topic. I'd like to ask you now, how many of you know, this is not to get you feeling bad about yourselves, but how many are obeying them? How many are obeying them? I went through times when I was told not to do anything. Ask me, Mr. Lazy. I went through times where I sat at home and I honestly, I wanted to stop. Did I have this huge angel appear to me and say, you must go forth and preach the gospel to every creature? No. Sometimes I saw someone else on the phone and I thought, sure, I've lost it. Other times I just thought, Roy, what's been happening? Now let me think. Perhaps I should just adapt time in this week. I've got a time off. Let's see what I can do. Well, that place is totally closed. You just get little boxes where you talk to them and say, hello, I want to talk to you about Jesus. Sorry, bye, okay, cool. That's a practical place to go. And I just went and then it started again. It's just wonderful. It's so easy to do nothing. I could easily go through years and never witness to a soul. Easy. So who of you are obeying? It's not easy. Some of those people don't like you, but some of them are so friendly. You know what I noticed? When I first went out to witness, they're all going to bite my head off. What I noticed is some of them do. They really bite your head off. I've had dogs that almost bit my head off. You go to the door and you try to give them tracts there and there's a postal box on the other side and there's a big dog with a thick, thick neck. And it's going like this. And I'm going like this. And eventually, just in between, I just get it in. And I walk into these things and I'm trying to find people. And I come to the other side and there's a big dog there and the people scream at me, what are you doing? This thing would have killed you if I wasn't here. They'd tell you off the head. And I agree, it would have, but can I please give you a tract now? And I mean, I've been in houses where there's a dog and this dog is right next to me licking my leg and the lady is telling me how it ate up this person and killed it and chewed it to the bones and they couldn't kill it because the person was a thief and it's like, get away please? I mean, no one ever comes back there to steal stuff. And that's what we have in South Africa. Because we've got the second highest crime rate in the world, we have big dogs who are taught to yelp. They're taught to kill someone. And so you go around, it's dangerous so early. I run the whole yard like, anybody? Halfway through, the dog comes, big one. And it looks at you and I look at it. And as I turn back it starts going forward, there's no wandering. I know if I run, it's faster than me and it's too far from the gate. And eventually I get to the gate, brother, it is scary, dogs. And that's the truth. But I mean, people are not so scary generally. I mean, I spoke at the park, the first two people didn't like me. They just said, sorry, bye. The second people were friendly, I didn't get much said. The third person, I could speak for a long time. Sure, you can speak. Of course, there's ways of not offending them. And people have to realize, you know, the people out there are not so scary. They're Americans. Americans eat hamburgers, they don't bite people. They're not like African cannibals. Africa, Americans hamburger. Get it? Okay. So, who are you going for? Just kick, you know what makes it easier? Get your friend to go with you. And fail, and fail again, and make mistakes. But learn from your mistakes. But just go, someone, go, sorry.