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Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
Before the world was - That is, from eternity, before there was any creation - so the phrase, and others similar to it, are taken in the sacred writings; see Joh 17:24; Psa 90:2; Eph 1:4. See Joh 1:1. Let the glory of my eternal divinity surround and penetrate my humanity, in its resurrection, ascension, and in the place which it is to occupy at thy right hand, far above all creatures, Phi 2:6, Phi 2:9.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
And now--in return. glorify thou me--The "I Thee" and "Thou Me" are so placed in the original, each beside its fellow, as to show that A PERFECT RECIPROCITY OF SERVICES of the Son to the Father first, and then of the Father to the Son in return, is what our Lord means here to express. with the glory which I had with thee before the world was--when "in the beginning the Word was with God" (Joh 1:1), "the only-begotten Son in the bosom of the Father" (Joh 1:18). With this pre-existent glory, which He veiled on earth, He asks to be reinvested, the design of the veiling being accomplished--not, however, simply as before, but now in our nature.
John Gill Bible Commentary
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self,.... Not with his perfections, these he had, they dwelt bodily in him; or with his nature, in which he was one with him; but as Mediator, with his glorious presence in heaven, by setting him at his right hand, and crowning him with glory and honour. The Jews have a notion that God will give to the King Messiah, , "of the supreme glory" (g): the glory Christ prays for is, as he says, the glory which I had with thee before the world was; the same phrase with or , used by the Jews (h). This is not to be understood of the glory of the human nature of Christ, abstractly considered; for that is no person of itself, but what is taken up into personal union with the Son of God; and therefore cannot be intended by this personal character I; nor did it exist from eternity; it was indeed written in God's book of predestination, even all its members, when as yet there were none of them in actual being; it was set up in God's thoughts and counsel, as the pattern and exemplar of human nature; it had a federal union with the Son of God, or a covenant subsistence with him; and in the Old Testament Christ was often spoken of as man, because of his frequent appearances in an human form, and because of the certainty of his incarnation; but he did not really and actually exist as man, until he took flesh of the virgin; for Christ, as man, is the seed of the woman, the son of David, Abraham, and Adam; he is called the last and second Adam, and was not as man before the first: the Old Testament speaks of his incarnation as future, nor is it possible that a creature can exist before time; for as soon as a creature exists, time begins, which is nothing else than the measure of a creature's duration; nor was the human nature of Christ with the Father from eternity; nor had it a glory before the world began, neither in whole, nor in part: nor is the glory of the divine nature abstractly considered here meant; this glory indeed Christ had from everlasting; he had it with his Father, in common with him, being in union to him; and it is true that it was in some measure veiled and covered in his state of humiliation; for though there were some breakings forth of it in that state, these were seen but by a few; wherefore he is thought by some, to pray here for the manifestation of this glory; but this glory was essential to him, was his natural right, and not to be prayed for, and which he then had as much as ever, and of which there could be no suspension: but this designs the glory of him as Godman, and Mediator; he was not only predestinated to be a Mediator, but was really set up as such from everlasting, and had a mediatorial fulness of grace put into his hands, and had the honour and glory of that office given unto him by the other two persons; and now that he might appear to be what he was, to be made, that is, made manifest that he was both Lord and Christ, he here prays; which was to be done, upon his ascension to heaven, and session at the right hand of God, by the pouring down of the Holy Ghost. (g) Midrash Tillim in Psal. 20 apud Galatin. de Arcan. Cathol. Ver. l. 3. c. 9. (h) Gloss in T. Bab Pesachim, fol. 54. 1.
Tyndale Open Study Notes
17:5 Jesus prayed to return to the position he had with God before the world began (1:1).
John 17:5
Prayer for the Son
4I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do.5And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.
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Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow
By Leonard Ravenhill2.4K53:58The Unchanging ChristFutureFaith in TrialsPRO 8:17ISA 40:31MAT 11:28JHN 14:6JHN 17:5ROM 8:31HEB 4:15HEB 13:81PE 5:7REV 1:18Leonard Ravenhill emphasizes the unchanging nature of Jesus Christ, who remains the same yesterday, today, and forever, as stated in Hebrews 13:8. He reflects on the glory of Christ before creation and the significance of His incarnation, highlighting the contrast between His divine majesty and the humble circumstances of His birth. Ravenhill urges believers to recognize the importance of a personal relationship with Christ, especially in times of trial, and to understand that true faith is tested in adversity. He calls for a deeper commitment to Christ, asserting that He should be our only focus and source of strength in a world filled with darkness and despair.
The Three Prayers (Part 3)
By Ron Bailey1.2K45:27Prayer ExamplePRO 8:1PRO 8:12PRO 8:22JHN 17:5JHN 17:24REV 19:10REV 21:5In this sermon, the speaker begins by describing a scene of chickens and a rooster in a courtyard, which transitions to the sound of Frank Sinatra singing "Strangers in the Night." The speaker then moves on to discuss John chapter 17, specifically verse 5, which highlights the relationship between Jesus and God the Father. The speaker emphasizes that Jesus willingly gave up his close relationship with the Father so that humanity could be reconciled with God. The sermon concludes with a call to prayer and a reminder that God can make all things new.
Full Fellowship
By Paris Reidhead1.0K38:04FellowshipISA 59:1MAT 4:18MAT 24:14JHN 17:5ACT 19:11HEB 1:1HEB 2:3In this sermon, the speaker emphasizes the call that Jesus Christ issues to men. He highlights the importance of instructing, explaining, heralding, and preaching the word of God. The speaker also mentions that Jesus promises to confirm and demonstrate his power. However, the ultimate purpose of ministry, faith, labor, and suffering is to glorify God. The sermon is based on Matthew 4:18-25, where Jesus calls Peter and Andrew to follow him and become fishers of men.
The Appearing of Resurrection and the Giving of Power
By Newman Sze8201:22:11MAT 28:1MAT 28:19MRK 16:15LUK 24:44JHN 20:19JHN 21:25In this sermon, the speaker emphasizes the importance of the 40 days that Jesus spent on earth after His resurrection. He explains that during this time, Jesus trained His disciples to shift their focus from external things to internal revelation, from the flesh to the Holy Spirit, and from the law to life. The speaker shares a personal anecdote about a turbulent airplane ride to illustrate the need for Christians to rise above fear and rely on the Holy Spirit. He concludes by urging the audience to prioritize their personal encounter with the Lord and the experience of being filled with the Holy Spirit.
The Love of God Manifested
By David Daniel26140:16Love Of GodJHN 3:16JHN 6:44JHN 17:5ACT 2:36ACT 2:39ROM 1:20ROM 3:23In this sermon, the preacher emphasizes the consequences of sin in the world. He explains that although God created everything to be very good, sin has corrupted His creation. The preacher also highlights the manifestation of God's love to a fallen world, particularly through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. He references passages from the Bible, such as John 3 and Acts 2, to support his points and emphasizes the importance of conviction and repentance in response to God's love and truth.
Jesus: The Alpha and Omega
By Mike Bickle231:03:43Eternal Nature of ChristAuthority of JesusPSA 29:10ISA 46:10JHN 16:14JHN 17:5COL 1:16COL 2:9HEB 1:3REV 1:8REV 19:6REV 22:13Mike Bickle emphasizes the profound significance of Jesus being the Alpha and Omega, highlighting that this title encapsulates His eternal nature and authority over all creation. He challenges listeners to seek a deeper understanding of this truth, which is essential for grasping the vastness of Jesus' role in the unfolding of history and personal destiny. Bickle points out that both Jesus and the Father declare this title, underscoring their shared glory and divine essence. He encourages believers to engage with the Holy Spirit to explore the implications of Jesus as the beginning and the end, which can transform their perspective on life and faith. Ultimately, this revelation serves as a source of comfort and strength, especially in times of trial.
The Gospel of John
By A.W. Pink0The Deity of ChristThe Uniqueness of John's GospelJHN 1:1JHN 3:16JHN 10:30JHN 14:6JHN 17:5JHN 20:31ROM 9:5COL 1:16TIT 2:13HEB 1:3A.W. Pink explores the distinctiveness of the Gospel of John, emphasizing its elevated tone and focus on the divine nature of Christ, contrasting it with the other three Gospels that present Him in human contexts. He highlights that John's Gospel is uniquely concerned with the spiritual relationships of believers and the deity of Christ, asserting that it reveals Jesus as the Son of God and the Creator. Pink notes that the Gospel's structure and themes reflect a divine purpose, showcasing the absolute deity of Christ through various testimonies and miracles. He also discusses the absence of certain events found in the other Gospels, which aligns with John's focus on the divine rather than the earthly aspects of Jesus' ministry. Ultimately, Pink calls for reverent contemplation of the profound truths presented in this Gospel.
Novatianus
By John Gill0PredestinationThe Deity of ChristJHN 17:5ROM 8:30EPH 1:42TI 1:91PE 1:20John Gill discusses Novatianus, a presbyter of Rome, who, despite some controversies regarding his views on apostasy and church communion, is recognized for his orthodox beliefs and his esteemed work on the Trinity. Novatianus emphasizes the doctrine of predestination, arguing that a significant number of individuals were chosen for glory before the foundation of the world, and he defends the deity and eternal glory of Christ, asserting that Christ's glory is not merely a result of predestination but a reality that existed before time. This understanding of predestination highlights the divine order and the significance of Christ's position in relation to humanity and the angels.
Eyewitnesses of His Glory
By T. Austin-Sparks0The Impact of the ChurchThe Majesty of ChristISA 11:4MAT 16:24MAT 17:1MAT 28:18MRK 9:29LUK 9:29JHN 17:5ROM 8:171PE 1:72PE 1:16T. Austin-Sparks emphasizes the significance of the Transfiguration of Jesus, highlighting that it served as a pivotal moment for the disciples, providing them with a vision of His glory amidst the impending trials of the Cross. He argues that the Church today needs a fresh encounter with the majesty of Christ to effectively address the challenges of a world dominated by evil. The experience of the Transfiguration was not only a testament to Jesus' perfect humanity but also a preparation for the disciples to understand the relationship between suffering and glory. Sparks calls for believers to seek a deeper understanding of Christ's power and presence, which can transform their impact in the world. Ultimately, he urges the Church to pray for a renewed vision of Jesus' majesty to overcome the impotence faced in spiritual battles.
Glorified Ascended Son of God
By George G. Findlay0Ascension of ChristAuthority of JesusJHN 17:5ACT 2:33George G. Findlay emphasizes the significance of Jesus' ascension as the glorified Son of God, who returns to the Father not only in His original glory but also in a new glory earned through His sufferings. He highlights that Jesus ascends as the Conqueror over sin and death, taking His rightful place at God's right hand, where He intercedes for humanity and governs the Church. The coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost serves as a confirmation of Christ's ascension and His authority over all things. Findlay underscores that Jesus' ascension is crucial for the establishment of God's kingdom on earth, as He continues to draw from divine resources for the salvation of mankind. Ultimately, Jesus reigns as the High Priest, representing humanity before God and ensuring the fulfillment of His promises.
Knowing the Incomprehensible
By A.W. Tozer0The Incomprehensibility of GodFaith and ExperienceJHN 17:5JHN 17:24A.W. Tozer emphasizes the incomprehensibility of God and critiques the contemporary understanding of Him as weak and limited, akin to ancient deities. He questions how Christians can truly know God if He is beyond human comprehension, yet offers hope through the revelation of God in Jesus Christ. Tozer asserts that through faith and love, believers can experience God's presence and glory, which transcends human understanding. He encourages the faithful to seek a deeper relationship with God, who reveals Himself not through reason but through the heart's desire for Him. Ultimately, Tozer reminds us that while God is infinite and unknowable, He invites us to experience His glory through Christ.
God the Son: His Pre-Existence
By Lewis Sperry Chafer0MIC 5:2JHN 1:1JHN 8:58JHN 17:5JHN 20:28COL 1:16HEB 1:6HEB 1:10Lewis Sperry Chafer delves into the dual nature of the Lord Jesus Christ, perfectly human and divine, emphasizing His likeness and unlikeness to men. The Scriptures clearly depict Jesus as a man who lived, suffered, and died among men, yet with a sinless character, sacrificial death, and eternal pre-existence. The pre-existence of Christ is directly stated in various Scriptures, highlighting His infinite Person and eternal existence coequal with the Godhead, unaffected by His incarnation. Additionally, the Word of God consistently implies the pre-existence of Jesus through His works of creation, appearances as the Angel of Jehovah, divine titles, attributes of God, and being worshiped as God.
The Lord of Glory
By Arno Clemens Gaebelein0JHN 17:5ACT 7:55ROM 8:291CO 2:82TH 1:10HEB 2:91PE 1:21Arno Clemens Gaebelein preaches about the Lord of Glory, emphasizing how Jesus, who died for us, is the eternal Lord of Glory, manifested in various ways throughout history. From appearing to the prophets to performing mighty miracles, Jesus revealed His Glory on earth. Even in His death on the cross, the focus of His Glory, He displayed obedience and selflessness, ultimately being raised and received into Glory by God. Gaebelein highlights the future manifestation of the Lord of Glory, when every eye shall see Him in His Majesty and Glory, and believers will be glorified with Him.
The Person and Work of Christ
By James Smith0ISA 62:4JHN 17:5ROM 5:92CO 8:9EPH 1:14EPH 5:25COL 2:13HEB 1:3HEB 12:2James Smith preaches about the glorious person of the Lord Jesus Christ, who is both fully God and fully man, possessing all divine attributes and essential human properties. Through Jesus, God blesses and supplies our needs, exalting and dignifying us beyond measure. Jesus, as our Savior, embodies divine wisdom to guide us, offering bounty, deliverance, protection, comfort, and every provision we require. His sacrificial death and resurrection reconcile us to God, imputing our sins to Him and His righteousness to us, securing our eternal salvation and deliverance.
In Thy Presence Is Fullness of Joy
By Paris Reidhead0PSA 16:11PSA 139:7ISA 57:15JHN 17:52CO 13:5Paris Reidhead preaches on the importance of recognizing the presence of the risen Lord Jesus Christ in our lives. He emphasizes that Jesus is not confined to a physical location but is omnipresent, dwelling in the hearts of believers. Reidhead highlights the significance of understanding that salvation is not just a formula or decision but a personal relationship with Jesus, who is salvation Himself. He challenges the congregation to seek and desire Jesus not for personal gain or blessings, but simply because He is worthy to be known, worshipped, and obeyed.
The Father Commits All Judgment Unto the Son
By Paris Reidhead0JOL 2:25MAT 22:37JHN 5:22JHN 17:5ACT 17:30ROM 2:161CO 3:13Paris Reidhead preaches about the importance of living a life that glorifies Jesus Christ, emphasizing the need for believers to examine their motives and actions in light of the coming Judgment Seat of Christ. He highlights that all judgment has been committed to the Son, Jesus Christ, who will evaluate every deed based on the motive behind it. Reidhead stresses the significance of repentance and surrendering to God's will, ensuring that every aspect of life is dedicated to glorifying Christ. He warns against allowing sin and disobedience to mar the pattern of one's life, urging listeners to seek forgiveness and restoration in Christ.
The Pre-Existence and Deity of Christ John 1:1-3; 17:5, 24
By David Servant0JHN 17:5David Servant delves into the eternal existence of Jesus as God's Son, emphasizing that Jesus was with God before the creation of the world and that He is just as much God as God the Father. Jesus, who helped create everything, transitioned from heaven to earth when He was conceived in Mary's womb, showcasing His divine nature. Through Jesus' prayer to the Father, we learn of His desire for believers to one day witness His glory in heaven, shining brightly like the sun.
Epistle 232
By George Fox0GEN 1:27GEN 18:18JHN 7:38JHN 17:5ROM 12:14EPH 4:24HEB 10:25HEB 13:81PE 2:221JN 5:9REV 21:23George Fox preaches to all friends gathered in the name of Jesus Christ, emphasizing the contrast between those who have fallen from righteousness and holiness and those who remain in Christ, the one who never fell. He highlights the journey from the confusion of the fall to the blessed state in Christ, where safety and peace are found. Fox urges believers to walk in the light of the Lamb, avoiding false teachings and traditions, and to keep their focus on Christ who is unchanging and the source of life and peace.
December 5. 1678. the New Tent Erected.
By Jane Lead0JHN 17:5ROM 12:21CO 15:442CO 5:171JN 3:2Jane Lead preaches about the renewal and transformation of the new Creature, emphasizing the need for a Holy Tent to be erected for the new Creature to manifest its threefold spirituality extracted from the Deity. She discusses the high dignified Body that our Lord Jesus put on from the Divine Essentiality, praying for the Glory He had with the Father before the World was. Jane Lead delves into the concept of a Body and Spirit merging into one intire activity in the Ghostly might, making the Body as penetrating as the Spirit, leading to a multiplication of Life-Figures of Glory.
Consequences of Original Sin
By Bishop M.A. Lalachan0GEN 3:6JER 17:9LUK 9:58JHN 3:16JHN 10:10JHN 17:5ROM 5:12ROM 8:12CO 8:9COL 1:16British author G.K. Chesterton, known as the 'prince of paradox,' highlighted the biblical truth that the root of the world's problems lies within humanity itself, tracing it back to the original sin of Adam and Eve. The consequences of this original sin include spiritual death, bodily death, distortion of the human 'image,' guilt, and hereditary transmission of sin to all descendants. The disobedience of Adam and Eve, leading to the concept of original sin, is explained through the biblical account of the Fall in Genesis. The sermon emphasizes the universal nature of sin, the inherent flawed nature of man's heart, and the need for surrendering to God's grace and salvation through Jesus Christ.
Mark 15:34
By Chuck Smith0Consequences of SinSeparation from GodGEN 3:6GEN 4:8PSA 14:1ISA 59:1MAT 26:39MRK 15:34JHN 1:1JHN 17:5ROM 3:231TH 1:9Chuck Smith explores the profound implications of Jesus' cry, 'My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?' during His crucifixion, illustrating how the cross reveals humanity's worst tendencies and rebellion against God. He emphasizes that sin leads to separation from God, a consequence that was warned of since Adam's time, and highlights the agony of Jesus in Gethsemane as He faced the bitterness of being forsaken. Smith reflects on the nature of fellowship with God, which is disrupted by sin, and warns of the ultimate punishment for those who persist in rebellion against God.
What Is Glory?
By T. Austin-Sparks0GEN 1:2JHN 1:3JHN 2:11JHN 11:4JHN 17:5ACT 7:21CO 2:8COL 1:16HEB 2:91PE 4:141PE 5:4T. Austin-Sparks concludes the 'Horizons' series by emphasizing the theme of glory in the Bible, highlighting how each Person of the Divine Trinity - Father, Son, and Holy Spirit - is associated with glory as a descriptive designation. Glory is expressed through radiance, light, and splendor, often seen in the transformation of individuals and the Church. The basis of glory lies in the satisfaction of God's nature, reflecting His holiness, righteousness, truth, and love. The ultimate fulfillment of glory is found in Christ, who wholly satisfied God's nature through His incarnation, life, death, and resurrection, leading to the restoration of glory through redemption.
The Capture of Jericho
By T. Austin-Sparks0JOS 6:1MAT 13:3JHN 17:51CO 1:271CO 12:9PHP 3:14T. Austin-Sparks preaches on the significance of the capture of Jericho in the Book of Joshua, symbolizing the transition to a new ground of resurrection life and complete separation from the world's power. The chapter illustrates God's desire for His people to be absolutely separated from worldly authority, out of His love and care. The story of Jericho emphasizes the importance of spiritual completeness and the power of Christ over all other forces, requiring believers to be on heavenly ground to experience His strength and sufficiency.
I'm Part of Someone Else
By Ernest O'Neill0JHN 17:5EPH 2:10COL 1:15REV 13:8Ernest O'Neill preaches about the misconception of feeling alone and disconnected, emphasizing that as God's workmanship created in Christ Jesus, we are never on our own. He explains that Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation, and that His life surges within us, enabling us to do things we never thought possible. O'Neill addresses doubts about believing in Jesus, highlighting that God made us as part of His Son's family, giving us the choice to let Him live in us.
Where Did You Come From?
By Ernest O'Neill0PSA 139:13JHN 17:5EPH 1:4EPH 2:10COL 1:15Ernest O'Neill delves into the reasons behind our worries and temper issues, attributing them to our heredity and environment. He emphasizes that our true origin began on the first Christmas Day, long before our earthly parents existed, with the birth of Jesus Christ. O'Neill highlights the eternal perspective of God's presence, explaining that we were created in Christ Jesus before the foundation of the earth, as parts of Him. He points out that our real nature comes from Christ, who is the source and maintainer of our lives, and challenges listeners to face the reality of their identity in Him.
- Adam Clarke
- Jamieson-Fausset-Brown
- John Gill
- Tyndale
Adam Clarke Bible Commentary
Before the world was - That is, from eternity, before there was any creation - so the phrase, and others similar to it, are taken in the sacred writings; see Joh 17:24; Psa 90:2; Eph 1:4. See Joh 1:1. Let the glory of my eternal divinity surround and penetrate my humanity, in its resurrection, ascension, and in the place which it is to occupy at thy right hand, far above all creatures, Phi 2:6, Phi 2:9.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
And now--in return. glorify thou me--The "I Thee" and "Thou Me" are so placed in the original, each beside its fellow, as to show that A PERFECT RECIPROCITY OF SERVICES of the Son to the Father first, and then of the Father to the Son in return, is what our Lord means here to express. with the glory which I had with thee before the world was--when "in the beginning the Word was with God" (Joh 1:1), "the only-begotten Son in the bosom of the Father" (Joh 1:18). With this pre-existent glory, which He veiled on earth, He asks to be reinvested, the design of the veiling being accomplished--not, however, simply as before, but now in our nature.
John Gill Bible Commentary
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self,.... Not with his perfections, these he had, they dwelt bodily in him; or with his nature, in which he was one with him; but as Mediator, with his glorious presence in heaven, by setting him at his right hand, and crowning him with glory and honour. The Jews have a notion that God will give to the King Messiah, , "of the supreme glory" (g): the glory Christ prays for is, as he says, the glory which I had with thee before the world was; the same phrase with or , used by the Jews (h). This is not to be understood of the glory of the human nature of Christ, abstractly considered; for that is no person of itself, but what is taken up into personal union with the Son of God; and therefore cannot be intended by this personal character I; nor did it exist from eternity; it was indeed written in God's book of predestination, even all its members, when as yet there were none of them in actual being; it was set up in God's thoughts and counsel, as the pattern and exemplar of human nature; it had a federal union with the Son of God, or a covenant subsistence with him; and in the Old Testament Christ was often spoken of as man, because of his frequent appearances in an human form, and because of the certainty of his incarnation; but he did not really and actually exist as man, until he took flesh of the virgin; for Christ, as man, is the seed of the woman, the son of David, Abraham, and Adam; he is called the last and second Adam, and was not as man before the first: the Old Testament speaks of his incarnation as future, nor is it possible that a creature can exist before time; for as soon as a creature exists, time begins, which is nothing else than the measure of a creature's duration; nor was the human nature of Christ with the Father from eternity; nor had it a glory before the world began, neither in whole, nor in part: nor is the glory of the divine nature abstractly considered here meant; this glory indeed Christ had from everlasting; he had it with his Father, in common with him, being in union to him; and it is true that it was in some measure veiled and covered in his state of humiliation; for though there were some breakings forth of it in that state, these were seen but by a few; wherefore he is thought by some, to pray here for the manifestation of this glory; but this glory was essential to him, was his natural right, and not to be prayed for, and which he then had as much as ever, and of which there could be no suspension: but this designs the glory of him as Godman, and Mediator; he was not only predestinated to be a Mediator, but was really set up as such from everlasting, and had a mediatorial fulness of grace put into his hands, and had the honour and glory of that office given unto him by the other two persons; and now that he might appear to be what he was, to be made, that is, made manifest that he was both Lord and Christ, he here prays; which was to be done, upon his ascension to heaven, and session at the right hand of God, by the pouring down of the Holy Ghost. (g) Midrash Tillim in Psal. 20 apud Galatin. de Arcan. Cathol. Ver. l. 3. c. 9. (h) Gloss in T. Bab Pesachim, fol. 54. 1.
Tyndale Open Study Notes
17:5 Jesus prayed to return to the position he had with God before the world began (1:1).