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"""What does "the truth" refer to in 1 Peter 1:22-25?"""

The truth of the Gospel of Christ born again in the believer revealed by the Holy Spirit, this is what we must obey.

Jesus said to Nicodemus, not, you can be born again when you straighten out your act and do what is right, Jesus said you Must be born again to see the things of the Kingdom of God. 1 Peter 1:22-23 are the things of the kingdom.

In Christ: Pnillip


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Phillip wrote:

"The truth of the Gospel of Christ born again in the believer revealed by the Holy Spirit, this is what we must obey."


How do we go about obeying according to what you wrote?


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By renewing our mind to the mind of Christ by the revelation of the truth from the Holy Spirit, by the Word of God.


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Phillip wrote:

"By renewing our mind to the mind of Christ by the revelation of the truth from the Holy Spirit, by the Word of God."


to be more precise and concise....


Jhn 17:17 "Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth


So God's word is the truth.


Again we have the beginning of this verse...


1Pe 1:22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit [fn]


Those who obey the "word of God" will through the power of the Holy Spirit experience sanctification.


Do you believe that the following statement is an accurate presentation of the above Scripture?


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"""1Pe 1:22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit [fn]


Those who obey the "word of God" will through the power of the Holy Spirit experience sanctification."""

Yes, by; 1 Peter 1:23-25 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word (Logos)of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word (rhema)of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word (rhema)which by the gospel is preached unto you.


In Christ the Word, (Logos) same as in John 1 The Word was God: Phillip


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Phillip wrote:

"Yes, by; 1 Peter 1:23-25 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word (Logos)of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word (rhema)of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word (rhema)which by the gospel is preached unto you."


Peter sights this OT Scripture as comentary on verse 23...


Isa 40:5 The glory of the LORD shall be revealed, And all flesh shall see [it] together; For the mouth of the LORD has spoken."

Isa 40:6 The voice said, "Cry out!" And he [fn] said, "What shall I cry?" "All flesh [is] grass, And all its loveliness [is] like the flower of the field.

Isa 40:7 The grass withers, the flower fades, Because the breath of the LORD blows upon it; Surely the people [are] grass.

Isa 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever."



In your post you pointed out in verses 24 and 25 that the greek word for "word" is rhema.



How does the use of "rhema" relate to Peter's use of OT Scripture to comment on NT Scripture?


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"""How does the use of "rhema" relate to Peter's use of OT Scripture to comment on NT Scripture?"""

:23 being born again by (LOGOS) The living and eternal Person of Christ.

:24 Rhema, is the written word being put in our hearts by the Holy Spirit to be conformed to the image of Christ, by Pauls Gospel, "Christ in you the Hope of Glory".

In Christ: Phillip


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":24 Rhema, is the written word being put in our hearts by the Holy Spirit to be conformed to the image of Christ, by Pauls Gospel, "Christ in you the Hope of Glory"."


In this section of Scripture, how does Peter know to translate "word" found in the OT Scripture...

Isa 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever."


into the word "rhema" in the 1 Peter 1:25?



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"""In this section of Scripture, how does Peter know to translate "word" found in the OT Scripture...

Isa 40:8 The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever."


into the word "rhema" in the 1 Peter 1:25?"""


I don't know, I'll have ask Peter when I see him. I would say in speculation, by the Holy Spirit.

In Christ: Phillip


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Phillip wrote:

"I don't know, I'll have ask Peter when I see him. I would say in speculation, by the Holy Spirit."


Wouldn't this be an example of "rhema"?


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