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 Re: The devil prays inside, Jesus sits at the right hand of God..

This is a little lengthy, but documents clearly how the satanic practice of inward "meditative", or "contemplative" prayer is practiced at IHOP,and has opened the door to satanic Babylon and the infiltration of her filth by her masters, The Pope and the Vatican. Take a few minutes and read......

Mike Bickle On Contemplative Prayer (part 1)
By Jocelyn Andersen

Mike Bickle, director of the International House of Prayer (IHOP) in Kansas City, and a well-known leader in the Prophetic Movement, claims that God is restoring contemplative prayer to the church. He goes on to claim that contemplative prayer is a God ordained means of entering into the fullness of God, and that the brightest lights in church history have been Roman Catholic mystics who lived during the dark ages. He went on to say the western church had much to learn from these mystics.

Anti-evangelical propaganda is prominent throughout his message. He informs his followers that they are constantly being put on the defensive by, and apologizing to, evangelical Christians for their intensity toward God by saying “Other Christians force us to hide our intensity—to wear a façade. “…even believers in Jesus…are made uncomfortable and intimidated by our spiritual intensity.”

However, he comforts them with the good news that they don’t “have to wear any facade” when they got together in little oasis’ “like this” (meaning his and other prophetic meetings). He continued his barrage against evangelicals by saying, “They don’t grasp it at all—being introduced into the deep realms of love.”

He claims the church of the western world has abandoned its inheritance to have the fullness of God (through contemplative prayer).

Bickle freely admits to pursuing eastern religious philosophies and had nothing but criticism for the Western Evangelical Church.

According to him, evangelical Christians are a pathetic and ignorant bunch. He says of us:

· “The Protestant wing of the western church, which is a tiny percentage of the Body of Christ…, is nearly completely (98%) unaware that the Holy Spirit is restoring contemplative prayer—center stage—to the church… The Holy Spirit is restoring this precious jewel (contemplative prayer) to the body of Christ. This is the God ordained means of attaining the fullness of God.” audio message Contemplative Prayer pt1 by Mike Bickle

He quotes from the contemplatives (his word for mystics) and announces that he will be teaching from the Sacred Pathways (which promotes the carrying of symbols or icons, choosing a mantra and visualizing God). Each one of these things is contradictory to the Word of God, which forbids imagery and vain repetitions in prayer.

He insists we need to study the lives and writings of the Roman Catholic mystics, and because the bookstore chain of Barnes and Nobles has carried so many books in this regard, he says (in all earnestness) that B & N is prophesying to the church that we need the mystics, and he wants to know why the church isn’t picking up on the fact that God is calling the entire Body of Christ to live lifestyles of contemplative prayer?

Below are quotes from Mike Bickle on contemplative prayer:

· “Every one in the Body Of Christ is called to live lives of contemplative prayer...”

· “Everybody is called to live in the contemplative lifestyle. Everyone! Everyone! Everyone! That’s one of the great strongholds we have to overcome (resistance to contemplative prayer).

· “…contemplative prayer, you gotta get over that hurdle! Barnes & Noble is prophesying it! Hurtle one we gotta understand it’s for everybody! Everybody is called to the fullness (contemplative prayer). We’re all going to go into this thing!”audio message Comtempolative Prayer pt1 by Mike Bickle

Another hindrance to contemplative prayer, says Bickle, is that we need to dismantle (“we” meaning evangelical Christianity) the idea that church history began with Martin Luther (I wasn’t aware we had that idea until he informed me of it).

Bickle says the most inspiring light in all of Christianity came from the Roman Catholic mystics during the dark ages. Below are quotes from Bickle on the mystics:

· “mystics is a legitimate term... I don’t want to fight the war…so I’m just saying contemplative prayer, but I mean the mystics—even here at IHOP I say, lets just stay with contemplatives …I don’t have time to argue… so I call them the contemplatives…. I don’t want to go into the semantics, the debates…so, I’m calling it the contemplatives… I don’t have time to argue… but I need the mystics.”

· “[They are] Some of the brightest lights in all of history… there has been the brightest lights in all history for men and women of abandonment in the dark ages… somewhere we have to say the dark ages were the luminaries in the grace of God…they were Catholic priests.”

· “…a study of the lives of the mystics, the contemplatives, through history, and clearly the most inspiring, compelling examples of history, in my world, have come out of the Catholic dark ages. I can’t find anything like it in modern times, in America, in the protestant world.”

· “…we need a little Holy Spirit catalytic jump start. We need to see where a few have gone before us, and say if they did we can, and we can go further… and if you’re going to go deep into that well, I’m sad to say, the vast majority of them are going to have Catholic roots in history.”audio message Contemplative Prayer pt1 by Mike Bickle

Bickle minimizes the false doctrine of Roman Catholicism by saying, “But didn’t Catholics do some funny things…? Well, when you stand before the Lord you’ll find out you did some funny things too.”

Bickle heavily promotes Bernard Clairvou (who he claims was a just a quiet little monk who only wanted to stay in his hermitage, praying and reading The Song of Solomon). He is clearly impressed with Clairvou’s healing ministry but leaves out the part where Clairvou travels extensively as a major instigator of the second crusade. He says, “Bernard Clairou became my most inspiring life outside the Bible.”


The writings of Father Thomas Keating (the modern day Father of contemplative prayer) are also promoted.

Bickle says these two mean are examples, for us, of, “a way to a deeper life in God.” He went on to say, “The protestant world is in great need of examples (like these) that will beckon us to the fullness of God.” audio message Contemplative Prayer pt1 by Mike Bickle


Mike Bickle is telling the Body of Christ that we are woefully deficient in having lost God’s fullness and need to look to New Age, Eastern philosophy and to Roman Catholic mystics as examples in how to restore it!

And his advice to questioning, spiritually languishing and anguishing souls (who didn’t know their real problem was that they wanted more of God—until he told them so) is this, “Don’t evaluate yourself, don’t evaluate others. Just keep going after it.” audio message Contemplative Prayer pt1 by Mike Bickle

In plain language that means don’t read or listen to anything discerningly or analytically. Don’t question anything or anybody—not even yourself (except evangelicals of course). Just go with what feels right.

How does that jive with search my heart O God and test my thoughts…? How about this one, “There is a way that seemeth right…?”

Bickle Quotes taken from the audio teachings of Mike Bickle on Contemplative Prayer at: http://mikebickleteachings.blogspot.com

For a Biblical view of contemplative prayer see: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/keating.htm

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 2010/12/12 6:08









 Re: A new face of mystical spirituality..the New Age cometh..

THE NEW FACE OF MYSTICAL SPIRITUALITY:
[A DVD AVAILABLE AT LIGHTHOUSE TRAIL]..Ray Yungen

"In his clear and understandable style, Ray Yungen explains the dynamics of contemplative prayer."

Unlike biblical prayer, this “new” form of prayer halts the normal flow of thought processes and takes the participant into a mystical state.

Yungen not only explains how this is done, but he takes us to the ancient roots of this prayer practice that derives in eastern mysticism.

This vital teaching will equip you with not only an understanding of this practice but of its increasing popularity within Christian churches, colleges, and ministries.

"Although promising much in the realm of intimacy with God, you will learn how this practice delivers a package of SEDUCING SPIRITS and a pantheistic view that is characteristic of the New Age........................"Yungen on the DVD

Many ministers now see the scope of Ecumenism and New age infiltration. It is frightening, but we must stare it down for what it is. It will kill you, if you do not resist, and cling to the Word and Spirit, and Jesus who sits at the right hand of the Father. True faith is simple and direct. Jesus is lord.

[I'm not promoting the DVD, what-so-ever, though the ideas behind it's making are biblical and valuable to discern the often muddy waters that portray eastern mysticism as christian and holy, and they are not. They will open you up to Satan and his minions.] BT

 2010/12/12 6:30









 Re: Pay to play spirituality...The American monastic system..

I WANT TO VOMIT.

The Catholics and are big on living a "sacrificial life", and the more sacrificial the better; the more spiritual you become. It is a mix of commitment and works, and IHOP promotes the SACRED OATH, to compete in the neo-monastic legalism that IHOP is.

Towards the end of this article that you can view online, you will see that the adage, "FOLLOW THE MONEY" IS THE NEW MANTRA OF IHOP. It is an anti-Christ approach to Heaven, where the faithful earn the reward.

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 2010/12/17 6:05





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