MrBillPro wrote:

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FOC wrote:
Additionally, mrbillpro, can you see Paul telling those in the church to simply allow false doctrines instead of fighting against them?
that idea is foreign to both the Gospel and the word of God as a whole.

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Whatever your on a mission here a blind man could see that, I said what I felt about this kind of stuff being exposed to the whole forum and I don't think it's healthy, I don't know why it could not be taken to PM's so I will say goodbye to this thread because I sure don't want to get caught up in this nor be any part of it, carry on solder. :-(

Are we not called to a higher calling to live as Christ.....to die to our selves for His sake?

Scroggins wrote:
Sure is a semantics fest in here....

GOD help us...

There is, however, a big difficulty for anyone who thinks they have to die for His sake, as this is not possible. We only can receive His death for our sake. This is all we are required to believe into. Our faith in His death, sets us free from sin.

Regardless of your stance on this issue, this discussion is hardly a game of words.
If you feel as much, possibly you simply are unable to grasp what is being presented.
if so, feel free to inquire and Im quite sure any poster here will be more than happy to help clear things up for you.

Matthew 5:27-32 (KJV)

27Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

31It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

32But I say unto you, That [u]whosoever shall put away his wife, [b]saving for the cause of fornication[/b][/u], causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

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Matthew 19:7-9 (KJV)

7They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

8He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.

9And I say unto you, [u]Whosoever shall put away his wife, [b]except[/b] it be for fornication[/u], and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
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Matthew 5:27-32 (AMP)

27You have heard that it was said, You shall not commit adultery.(A)

28But I say to you that everyone who so much as looks at a woman with evil desire for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

29If your right eye serves as a trap to ensnare you or is an occasion for you to stumble and sin, pluck it out and throw it away. It is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be cast into hell (Gehenna).

30And if your right hand serves as a trap to ensnare you or is an occasion for you to stumble and sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better that you lose one of your members than that your entire body should be cast into hell (Gehenna).

31It has also been said, Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.

32But I tell you, [u]Whoever dismisses and repudiates and divorces his wife, [b]except[/b] on the grounds of unfaithfulness (sexual immorality)[/u], causes her to commit adultery, and whoever marries a woman who has been divorced commits adultery.(B)
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Matthew 19:7-9 (AMP)

7They said to Him, Why then did Moses command [us] to give a certificate of divorce and thus to dismiss and repudiate a wife?(A)

8He said to them, Because of the hardness (stubbornness and perversity) of your hearts Moses permitted you to dismiss and repudiate and divorce your wives; but from the beginning it has not been [a]so [ordained].

9I say to you: [u]whoever dismisses (repudiates, divorces) his wife, [b]except[/b] for unchastity[/u], and marries another commits adultery, [b]and he who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.
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John 1:1-5 (KJV)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2The same was in the beginning with God.

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John 1:14-18 (KJV)

14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

18No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

We however, are called to be light in a dark world----showing the world God's love to the unlovely/undeserving. We are not called to follow the world's ways of handling our tribulations. Blessings in Him, Cindy

Scroggins.
when you pop in, make the assertion you did without backing it with some evidence of some sort, it simply makes it seem like youre being sarcastic with everyone in the thread.

I think a bit more grace could have been offered on your part by simply not responding here if youre not happy with the content so you didnt offend anyone needlessly, dont you think?