Since you obviously have your mind made up about what I meant by what I said, let me clarify.

I'm not sure where you got bent that I would EVER say anything opposing to this statement! I would no more want anyone to be comforatable in their sins, not mine, not yours not anyones, than I would want them to die and go into hell.

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I agree, it is a shameful way for anyone to be, and I fear what they will have to answer for.

Don't forget, though, 20 years ago we had Tammy Faye Baker...

I am grieved in my heart to think that the problem within many churches is that they have no fear of God. Else how could they be so shameless? How else could they hear the Word more than the large majority of the world hears in their entire lives, and continue in their own way?

That is exactly some of the foolishness I was thinking of.. plus much more all around... I have heard it called and agree that "spiritual insanity" seems to be running amok.

Since Christ said, "you have that which will judge you in that day, the word which I have spoken to you." (paraphrsed John 12:48) I wonder how many Bible verses folks will remember in that day when all of their works are brought up at the judgement seat?

Blessings,
Lori

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Lori Salyer

I'm so glad this thread is receiving some serious attention, especially from you sisters. Praise God.

The dangers of high heels:

"they can cause foot pain
they can create foot deformities, including hammertoes and bunions
they can cause an unsteady gait
they can shorten the wearer's stride
they can render the wearer unable to run
altered forces at the knee caused by walking in high-heels may predispose to degenerative changes in the knee joint
See "Foot and Tendon Problems" below for many of the medical reasons.
Women who wear high heels frequently have a higher incidence of degenerative joint disease of the knees. This is because they cause a decrease in the normal rotation of the foot which puts more rotation stress on the knee
Podiatrists often comment that 75 percent of their business is caused by females wearing tall high heeled shoes.

High-heeled shoes slant the foot forward and down while bending the toes up. The more that the feet are forced into this position, the more it may cause the Achilles tendon to shorten. This may cause problems when the wearer chooses lower heels or flat-soled shoes. When the foot slants forward, a much greater weight is transferred to the ball of the foot, increasing the likelihood of damage to the underlying soft tissue which supports the foot. In many shoes, style dictates function, either compressing the toes, or forcing them together, possibly resulting in blisters, corns, hammer toes, bunions, and many other medical conditions, most of which are permanent, and will require surgery to alleviate the pain. High heels--because they tip the foot forward-- put pressure on the lower back through making the rump push outwards and crushing the lower back vertebrae and contracting the muscles of the lower back.[3]

If it is not possible to avoid high heels altogether, some doctors suggest that the wearer wear high-heels no more often than twelve hours a day, and that they are spending at least a third of the time on their feet in contour-supportive "flat" shoes (such as exercise sandals), or well-cushioned "sneaker-type" shoes, saving high heels for special occasions.

One of the most critical problems of high-heeled-shoe design involves a properly constructed toe-box. Improper construction here can cause the most damage to one's foot. Toe-boxes which are too narrow force the toes to be "crammed" too close together. Ensuring that room exists for the toes to assume a normal separation so that high-heel wear remains an option rather than a debilitating practice, is an important issue in improving the wearability of women's high-heeled fashion shoes.

Wide heels do not necessarily offer more stability, and any raised heel with too much width, such as found in "blade-" or "block-heeled" shoes, induces unhealthy side-to-side torque to the ankles with every step, stressing them unnecessarily, while creating additional impact on the balls of the feet. Thus, the best design for a high-heel is one with a narrower width, where the heel is closer to the front, more solidly under the ankle, where the toe box provides room enough for the toes, and where forward movement of the foot in the shoe is kept in check by material snug across the instep, rather than by toes jamming together in the toe box.

Interestingly enough, despite the medical issues surrounding high-heel wear, a few podiatrists recommend well-constructed low to moderate heels for some patients. It appears a slight elevation of the heel improves the angle of contact between the metatarsals and the horizontal plane, thereby more closely approximating the proper angle and resulting in proper weight distribution of a medium-to-high-arched foot. Other foot specialists, however, argue that any heel causes unnecessary stresses on the various bones and joints of the foot."

It's all about sex:

"To many observers, a woman is considered more sexy while wearing high heels than flat shoes. Erotic pictures often depict women wearing their high heel shoes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_heel

Here's another article on high heels:

"Break the High Heel Habit
By: Jennifer Russo


Many women think that an outfit isn’t complete without a pair of high-heeled shoes, but that fancy footwear may end up seriously cramping their style. Although heels aren’t usually considered particularly comfortable, most women are not aware of the potential dangers. High heels are pumps with heels of more than two inches, according to the American Podiatric Medical Association, who has determined them to be “biomechanically and orthopedically unsound.” Aside from damaging a woman’s posture and increasing her risk of injury from falling, these shoes actually damage the feet and may result in a lifetime of foot ailments.

Unlike the Barbie dolls they grew up playing with, women have flatter feet designed to bear their weight by distributing it evenly across the entire surface. By placing feet in an uncomfortable position, high heels may lead to a slew of health problems. Pain in the ball of the foot, metatarsalgia, is a common compliant for high heel enthusiasts. But the damage done by heels goes beyond aching feet. High-heeled shoes change the shape of the feet and may eventually prevent them from functioning properly. The unnatural position that the feet and legs are placed in when wearing high heels may shorten the Achilles tendon, which connects the calf muscle to the heel bone. This causes the tendon to become inflamed and irritated. Frequent high heel wearers may also develop a bump at the back of their heel, commonly called a “pump bump,” caused by friction between the heel bone and the back of the shoe...."

http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/break-high-heel-habit.html

Rivquah,

Now how about the practice of sun tanning? If you google 'dangers of sun tanning' you will find more info then you want to read that will show how this is dangerous.

When you stop and think about it, all these things are done to elevate self. And for what purpose?

This still brings us back to having to ask the LORD to show us how we should dress. I well remember hearing David Wilkerson say many years ago how one should look in the mirror and ask the LORD for his opinion on how I am attired. The key is submission to the LORD. If one has to make sacrifices now in order to be obedient, it will be as nothing once we get to heaven. And if we rebel and end up in hell, one will think how stupid it was to rebel and from that there will be no escape. (I do not know if a single act of rebellion may take one to hell, but it puts you on a slippery slope which will be difficult to get off from. Slippery slope - ever been on a very slippery slide when a child? Does this teach us something?)

Rivquah, you have a passion for this subject - this is very encouraging to this grandmother.

Blessings,
ginnyrose

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A Godly Man Comments on Modesty
By: Anonymous

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The following is a heart-felt letter written by a godly single young man to his sisters in Christ. In it he shares his struggle with immodestly dressed women in church. Eye-opening for sure.


Dear Sisters in Christ,

I’m 34 years old and single. Up until I was 26, I shamelessly indulged in lust while I outwardly paraded myself around as an upstanding Christian man. But today, because of the blood of Jesus and deep repentance, I am able to say that I am no longer that man. And the work of God’s grace has not only taught me to deny the ungodliness of lustful thoughts, but to go one step further and truly seek to honor you as sisters in my thoughts.

I wish I could write to you and tell you I am able to walk into church without any fear of encountering the temptation to lust anymore; but I can’t. In fact, to be honest, in the past 8 years I’ve even decided not to go to church on more than one occasion because I knew I was too weak to face some of the women there.

As I type I can still remember a few times when I actually had to turn around and get on my knees during some of the worship services because I didn’t want to be more captivated with some of the girls on the worship team than with God. There have also been plenty of other times when I had to purposely look at the floor as I walked through the foyer in order to avoid the same thing. Did I not desire to put the ugliness of my past behind me, I would not go to such lengths. But honoring you and my God now means more to me than my own self-indulgence.

Therefore, I hope that what I am about to share will help those of you who dress without any consideration for these things.

You are beautiful; yes. That much I can see without you doing anything to convince me. But please do not entice me to notice you. Is it not enough that God endowed you with the beauty you possess? And that He has made you a gift to your present or future husband? Please help me to rejoice with him rather than tempt me to steal from him.

I understand that the fashion world is becoming more and more revealing, and that it’s increasingly difficult to find attractive clothing that’s modest. But have you considered my weakness as you look at yourself in the dressing room mirror? If you only knew how often the immodest outfits you wear accost me, perhaps you would see yourself differently.

“But you’re responsible for your thoughts, not me,” you might think. Yes, you are right. I must stand before God and own every one of them someday. And were you a woman of the world I would have no grounds on which to make my appeal. But you name the Name of Christ, as I do. And you call me your brother.

My desire is to honor you; yet there are times that you dress as if you wish I wouldn’t. I implore you; please consider these things. I have spoken openly and honestly. But I have endeavored to do so in love, not in criticism.

In loving sincerity,
Your brother in Christ



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