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 a Vineyard not ready.

I have been teaching through various passages of late on who will be found "ready" when Jesus returns to take His people and to destroy the rest. To be honest, I have been shocked at how little I knew and that what I thought I knew was false or incomplete.

If you study through the book of Matthew, you will find that Jesus spent the majority of His teaching helping His "followers" or disciples understand that He would be coming back "soon" and that He would divide the world into two categories, only two.

From Matthew 5 through the end of the book, Jesus started explaining to, wooing and warning His disciples ( including His most beloved friends the apostles) concerning His expected return and what He expected to find in them and from them. He had especially strong warnings for His servants ( all of us) about how we must serve Him faithfully until He returns or we would lose....... our ministry?, our status in heaven?, our reward ? Nope. Our very souls. This is what shocked me.

From Matthew 5 on Jesus warned His disciples that they must continue to be salt and light or they would be worse than dung, that no matter how much they called Him Lord and had apparent power, that not actually doing the will of the Father would cast them into Hell, that they should base their life on hearing His words and obeying them or they would be destroyed by the horrible destruction of His second coming, that they must shout what He gives them to say from the rooftops and not fear men but instead, fear Him who can cast their body and soul into Hell for denying Him before men, that they should serve Him faithfully and not be given to dissipation and anger towards His people or they would be cast into Hell, that they should be faithfully prepared and ready when He returns or be cast into Hell, that if they should take the gifts He leaves them for His Kingdom and do nothing with them ( that is do nothing good or bad ) to serve His Kingdom then they would be cast into Hell, that they should pray for strength to endure until His coming so that they might survive His coming, that they would feed, clothe and visit the needy among His brothers and sisters in the Kingdom or He would cast them into Hell.

ALL these warnings were to the followers..... I was shocked when I put all these warnings together. My summary does not do justice to the actual texts. Remember He was intentionally and pointedly speaking these words to His closest friends and companions in the ministry. No one was exempt.

What added fuel to my shock was that Jesus said He could come back at any time. His concern was that His people would relax, become complacent, busy with worldly activity, distracted, lacking in commitment, fearful of man, presumptuous about their status in the Kingdom and lacking in urgency to the work and labor of the Kingdom in the same way that the OT people of God had rested in their calling from Egypt, their false or misguided trust in their temple, and failed to manage and produce the fruit of the Lord's vineyard and Kingdom.

Please believe me when I tell you I'm not writing this to change any view of salvation that we hold or to diminish what Jesus accomplished on the cross. I am unchanged myself in all I have ever believed about salvation, forgiveness, Christ's love or His sovereignty in salvation.

What has happened with acute revelation is that Jesus spent a great deal of His final days with His beloved disciples helping them be aware, alert and prepared as to what He expected to find when He returned to earth. His warning were crystal clear but I was apparently unwilling to see. Would He find faithfulness to His word, His calling and the fruit of His vineyard.

The warnings of Jesus for unmet expectations are so clear. They are loving instructions on how to be "ready", loving warnings about how serious He is and how serious the repercussions are, and they are clear indications that while OT Israel failed to manage His vineyard, that He expected His people, with new hearts and the indwelling Spirit, to heed the warnings and accomplish the work of the Kingdom.

If you find what I have written offensive or objectionable or even just contrary to what any have been taught, please, and I mean please, read through Matthew 5 to the end and note the number of warnings, the consequences and who was being addressed with the warnings.

My fear is that we who disciple others may not be ready ourselves, or have not sufficiently and urgently helped others get ready and warned them, and have not honored Jesus as we ought with the reward of His sufferings and with a fruitful vineyard well cared for and beautiful in all Her ways. I honestly don't think we believe Jesus could come back tonight. Like the people of Noah's time, we marry, do business, conduct our lives as if all is well and all will always be well. Noah warned and He worked unabated in the fear of the coming terror of the Lord until the drops from the sky signaled the day to work is over, the night has come.

"Why do you call Me "Lord" and not do what I say.


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Robert

 2019/10/16 18:31Profile
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 Re: a Vineyard not ready.

What you have pointed out should give every believer pause.

The concerning part is knowing where we stand. Each of us live different lives with different opportunities and means to further the kingdom. In other words, we can always point to someone who is doing more than us; we can also probably point to those who are doing less. And we may go through seasons when we do more and some when we do less.

It is indeed concerning to know what we should be doing because if we are all honest we can all do more. The question seems to be at what point is the Lord pleased?

Or is that the wrong question? I am not 100% sure.


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Not sure how I would answer your question other than to say..... some ask how little we have to do for the Lord to make it and others ask how much can I do to please Him ( not be accepted but please)?

I'm not addressing you at all. I don't know your heart. I have personally tried to receive Jesus as my treasure and all surpassing desire on earth, daily offer my live as a living sacrifice, live like He might come tonight, be obedient to all I clearly know ( not perfectly but directionally ) and to know that if I love the brethern with my life ( perfect love ) then all fear of not being a child of God is cast out.


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Robert

 2019/10/16 19:10Profile
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 Re: a Vineyard not ready.

Brother Robert,

Your testimony is a blessing from the Lord!
This is the God that is saving me, His marks are very distinct and familiar!
Indeed these words of truth are sobering and serve as an encouraging admonition.
This same type of revelation is what pulled me from the muck of deception... the warnings!!! There are sooo many and they, contextually, are quite poignant. Like you, I had read these passages many times yet they (the warnings) began to leap off the pages in a way that made them unavoidable🙏🏻

I remember thinking that none of these “doctrines” could possibly be correct as it would make the whole counsel of the word (warnings) pointless,.. and why would He be sooo careful and consistent in presenting grave warnings if, in the end, it wasn’t far worse than we can even imagine?

This particular one stuck out for me,... Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Thank you for sharing what the Lord has given you-


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 Re: brother Todd

/ The question seems to be at what point is the Lord pleased? /

The answer I found ;

If Balak would give me his house full of silver and gold, I cannot go beyond the word of the LORD my God, to do less or more.
19 Now therefore, I pray you, tarry ye also here this night, that I may know what the LORD will say unto me more.

Actually that whole chapter is rather indicative of the point you raise:)


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Brother Robert,
What a Word,? !!,... and how soo very much the Truth is appreciated,..🙏
... The preaching of the kingdom that is to go out unto the whole world, and then shall the end be.

I thank The Lord for what He is doing in you,.. and for the encouragement
it is for me,..as well as for many others.

I thank The Lord,
—————-
elizabeth

Edit:
I always appreciate Bro. Fletcher’s posts and am so blessed.
Thank you

Love our bro. Todd too

 2019/10/17 19:07Profile





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