This article covers ground for those that have a problem with the timing of the creation of the sun.



The Creation movement has increasingly caused many to face up to the powerful, Biblical arguments for such things as:

All living things were created (about 6,000 years ago) in six literal Earth-rotation days.
There was no death, bloodshed or suffering before Adam’s Fall.
Noah’s Flood covered the whole globe, and would have laid down a vast number of fossils.
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However, many of the Christians who now accept the above points are still overawed by certain arguments from astronomy for billions of years. This seems to have compelled a number of writers to come up with novel ‘interpretations’ of the Bible to try to harmonize it with the idea that there were ‘billions of years’ before the creation of living things during the six days of Creation Week.

We are not talking here about the classical ‘gap’ (or ruin-reconstruction) theory, which has long been ‘on the ropes’.1 Rather, we are addressing recent books by Christian writers trying to find room in the Bible for vast ages, who say that the sun, moon and stars were all made long before Day 1.2

But what does the Bible actually say? God’s historical record in Genesis 1:1–5 reads:

‘In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good. And God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day.’

The beginning
The first thing God tells us in the Bible is that there was a beginning. Not a beginning to God,3 but a beginning to time and to the Earth and to the space-time environment in which we live. These words assure us that, as linguist Charles Taylor says, ‘The universe was no accident, though many evolutionists think so, and some Eastern religions suggest so, with a near-eternal universe and gods emerging from it.’4

The first Hebrew word in Genesis 1:1 is bereshith; it occurs without the article and so is a proper noun, meaning ‘absolute beginning’. Why is this important?

Answer: Because the construction does not allow it to be translated ‘In the beginning of God’s creating’ or ‘When God began creating’,5 as some theistic long-agers would prefer. What does ‘God created the heaven(s) and the earth’ mean?

The description of day and night before the existence of the sun gives a stamp of authenticity to the Genesis account.

The phrase ‘heaven(s) and earth’ in Genesis 1:1 is an example of a Hebrew figure of speech called a merism, in which two opposites are combined into an all-encompassing single concept.6 Throughout the Bible (e.g. Genesis 14:19, 22; 2 Kings 19:15; Psalm 121:2) this means the totality of creation, not just the Earth and its atmosphere, or our solar system alone. It is used because Hebrew has no word for ‘the universe’ and can at best say ‘the all’.7

One of the words in this Hebrew figure of speech is the plural noun shamayim, which signifies the ‘upper regions’ and may be rendered ‘heaven’ or ‘heavens’, depending on the context.8 The essential meaning is everything in creation apart from the Earth. The word translated ‘the earth’ is erets, and here refers to the planet on which we now live.

The opening sentence of the Bible (‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.’) is thus a summary statement (the details follow) that God made everything in the universe. The rest of Genesis 1 gives the details of how this happened over a period of six days.

The rest of this post can be read at.

http://creation.com/morning-has-broken-but-when

churinga, It could be POSSIBLE that the Earth is 6,000 years old and the rest of the universe is Billions of years old.

Secular Humanistic scientists purposely proposed an atheistic version of the Big Bang Theory (1960's), and have pushed it on the pubic because they control Academia and all the school systems. To do this, they specified that the universe is actually like a cylindrical tube, there is nothing in the middle of that tube nor anything outside of the outer boundary of the tube. Using this assumption, they declare that there is nothing special at any point in the universe, it all looks the same from any point within the universe.

Both COBE and WMAP falsified this atheistic version of the Big Bang. I will not get into the evidences, such is not suitable for this forum.

As it turns out, our Galaxy has a very special place in our universe:

"Our galaxy is the centre of the universe, ‘quantized’ redshifts show"

by D. Russell Humphreys

Over the last few decades, new evidence has surfaced that restores man to a central place in God’s universe. Astronomers have confirmed that numerical values of galaxy redshifts are ‘quantized’, tending to fall into distinct groups. According to Hubble’s law, redshifts are proportional to the distances of the galaxies from us. Then it would be the distances themselves that fall into groups. That would mean the galaxies tend to be grouped into (conceptual) spherical shells concentric around our home galaxy, the Milky Way. The shells turn out to be on the order of a million light years apart. The groups of redshifts would be distinct from each other only if our viewing location is less than a million light years from the centre. The odds for the Earth having such a unique position in the cosmos by accident are less than one in a trillion. Since big bang theorists presuppose the cosmos has naturalistic origins and cannot have a unique centre, they have sought other explanations, without notable success so far. Thus, redshift quantization is evidence (1) against the big bang theory, and (2) for a galactocentric cosmology, such as one by Robert Gentry or the one in my book, Starlight and Time.

Now, Humphreys has a Theory about White Holes (which needs more work). White Holes are the opposite of Black Holes. Black Holes absorb all matter, energy, such as light. Light can not escape once it reaches the Event Horizon (which is defined as the surface gravity is so great that even light can not escape. We can only observe Black Holes by the gravitation effects they have on nearby stars.

White Holes are the opposite, they expel matter and energy outward from their event Horizons. Black Holes and White Holes have the same Event Horizons.

If you are standing at the White Hole Event Horizons, you could see the universe aging very rapidly, in just six earth days at the Event Horizon, it is quite possible to see our entire universe age many billions of years from the frame of reference from the Event Horizon. And God, being an extremely intelligent and powerful Being, is capable of putting boundaries conditions on His Laws of Physics and Chance, accounting for all life and the things necessary for that life to thrive.

D. Russel Humphrey thus speculates that his White Hole Theory, with God's intervention, accounts for the vast highly ordered Universe of what we see throughout our universe, and this therefore explains why the universe was created in an extremely entropic state.

In fact, Russel Grigg (whom I respect) references Humphreys
work about how stars can be billions of lightyears away in a young universe?

And keep in mind that 'Lightyear' is a physical measurement of distance, such as how far other galaxies are from us. One Lightyear is the distance of how far light will travel in one year.

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Arthur Biele