So okay, this is a misleading title for a thread. I mistakenly made a comment today at work about AC/DC and Back in Black. Then, to my amazement a pastors wife said, "Ohhh that's my husbands favorite AC/DC song." Shocked as I was I said, "Your kidding?!" The short conversation ended after she said something about it corrupting their youngest daughter into loving 70s and 80s music.YUCK!Just looked up the lyrics....what a testimony to the world--drug use and oh he'll never die. Quite mistaken.
_________________Neil Long
Well... before I am too quick to judge people, it took me a long time to walk away from music that was wicked. Having said that tho, I dont think I could trust a pastor who isnt anymore discerning than what you just described.It always rattled me when I meet believers who go on and on about their faith... and then as they are driving away they are cranking garbage on their car stereo. Where is the discernment?We've been having an ongoing debate on a different thread about music, artistic expression and creativity. Music, to me, is not the issue. There is a spirit behind secular music, and it matters not if it is rock, country, bluegrass, etc. Hitler used classical music for evil.Before people jump on the music bashing bandwagon... let me ask... what do you watch on TV? How about the movies you watch? Examine yourself.Krispy
Krispy,Point well taken about judgement. I was gothic before my conversion. I knew the next day that this music was absolutely demonic and rid myself of it post haste. Unfortunately, I sold it to a used CD store :(Agreed, there is a spirit behind all worldly music. The 80's trash I grew up with is just as bad for the soul than the punk rock I loved.There's just something that makes you want to puke when a professing Christian talks about loving headbanger music. Or a multitue of other things.I know that there is real immaturity, but what about "by their fruits you shall know them"? Also, what about 1 Cor. 5 that states we should judge those within the church? Just some thoughts.No TV here it went with the music. Just as polluted and perverse.
et me ask... what do you watch on TV? How about the movies you watch? Examine yourself.
_________________Mike Compton
There's a lot of songs I like that aren't necessarily Christian. But what about when it's Christian lyrics from a non-Christian?I got saved around the time when the movie SHREK came out. There's a song in there I really really like called HALLELUJAH. But I don't know what Leonard Cohen (songwriter) is talking about. Maybe someone can shed some light on these lyrics:I heard there was a secret chord That david played and it pleased the lord But you don't really care for music, do you Well it goes like this the fourth, the fifth The minor fall and the major lift The baffled king composing hallelujah Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah Well your faith was strong but you needed proof You saw her bathing on the roof Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you She tied you to her kitchen chair She broke your throne and she cut your hair And from your lips she drew the hallelujah Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah Baby i've been here before I've seen this room and i've walked this floor I used to live alone before i knew you I've seen your flag on the marble arch But love is not a victory march It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah Well there was a time when you let me know What's really going on below But now you never show that to me do you But remember when i moved in you And the holy dove was moving too And every breath we drew was hallelujah Well, maybe there's a god above But all i've ever learned from love Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you It's not a cry that you hear at night It's not somebody who's seen the light It's a cold and it's a broken hallelujah
_________________Leonardo Santana
Santana... I dont think that song is about anything. It's non-sensical.Krispy
Oooo... brother Compton... what a post. You are so right on. I'm guilty as charged. I think we all are, if we're honest.If serious believers from a century ago could see us now they would not consider us Christians. Many true believers in other parts of the world who live under real persecution pray for US here ... think about that.Krispy
Santana,It is an interesting song, that one. I'm not entirely sure it is amiss from the point in which it was written, either.In the first verse, we see a strong man admitting love. In the second, we see him fall by the "same" desire, and another strong man (referencing Sampson) who was enraptured by, cut to, and ultimately killed through submission to an improper authority (love.) Delilah did tie him up several times in hopes he would die, and finally (on the third effort, the previous two in which he killed men - the jarhead) he told her his secret.After that, I kinda miss the beats, but modern culture flaunts love (especially the younger portion and our "hollywood rolemodels"). The writer here is expressing a break from that "norm: - an acknowledged disillusioned view of love.Then he talks about intimacy and apparent synergy (lost), continued in a lamented form (fourth verse). Finally, he wraps up with an interesting concept - this misconstrued "love" has taught him how to fire with deadlier accuracy in a metaphorical reference to personal hurt, followed by the final lament on his view of love. It is ineffectual, a misnomer of height or importance.Yeah, theologically not exactly something I'd go rubbing into a kid, but interestingly enough holding true with a generally held belief among a good portion of the Church that love is misconstrued on a massive scale, although it still draws almost solely on emotion and betrayal.Not entirely nonsensical...
_________________David Reynolds
Thanks Ptywama. I do regret putting posting this under this thread. I hate to get off specific topics but now let me re-read and process what you wrote, lol.
