You are really hot and all because I said there isn't much interest in talking about Eschatology here ?

And name calling ? Spiritual Pride, etc. ?

You can judge what I've said, but don't judge my heart.

If folks have told me and said on here, that they don't like to get into the subject of Eschatology enough times that I stopped a thread on it ... how is that spiritual pride talking ? How is that, "concocting things in my mind" ?
In other words, you're now adding "delusional" to the "spiritual pride", with your name calling.

Do you even realize the gravity of your words now ?

One thing you did just remind me of "from the past" is just that ... the name calling, instead of just dealing with the words written.


Pro 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?
Pro 20:10 Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD.

Annie,

There is a great problem in misunderstanding intent and I believe it is 'bearing false witness'. It is almost alarming how often it can come up and still not be recognized.

It is redundant, but it is this idea of climbing into other peoples minds and expressing their thoughts by presumption and it is wrong and wrong headed. In fact it is so sinister and maybe subtle enough at points in between, to expose it is too get caught in it's trap.

I think I have done so here as you pointed out and I do apologize for it where I went too far but it was an attempt to judge by your words. That is not a defense. It is grievous to hear these things bandied about one against another due to differences of opinion. That is what the attempt was to draw attention to, again your own words;

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Mike Balog

OK... I've been silent. I like the thoughts expressed on this thread so far. A lot of great points.

Someone mentioned that most believers were convinced that the USSR would play a big role in End Times events, but they are no more. While true that the USSR is "no more", Russia still [b]is[/b]. And Russia and China are allies, and China is growing stronger by the day. Russia is in bed with Iran. Russia is still very active and still a threat. Sure, their economy is in bad shape... and their people are hungry. But ya know what? When I am hiking I would much rather come across a bear with a full belly than one thay just woke up from hibernation.

The middle east... Ray Charles could see that that is a powder keg ready to blow.

Iran? Same thing.

Is the US innocent? No, of course not. (altho it's still the best place to be! I'm biased, I know.) But we're still allied strongly with Israel, and I really believe that as long as we stay that way we will have a certain amount of protection from God... because He promised that.

No one can predict when things will happen. I dont need a prophet to tell me that we live in perilous times. If that was the case, Wolf Blitzer would be a prophet.

Fact is, none of us have any control over whats happening. If we did we wouldnt be exercising faith in God. God is in control, and thats all I need to know. Hard times will come. America could fall BEFORE the rapture (altho I happen to believe the rapture will be a contributing factor to America's fall, should it fall).

We're soft in this country, and in Europe and most developed nations. None of us have seen the persecution that the Chinese believers have seen. Or believers in the old USSR. Or all down thru history. The Catholic Church mercilously persecuted the Waldensian believers... and I mean brutally. Yet we complain if someone picks on us or calls us a name. We feel like we've "taken one for the team".

Lord I repent for ever feeling persecuted for Your Name! How wretched am I that I consider myself at times to be persecuted for You when I havent even come close.

The main thing, my friends is that we need to be focussed on Christ, and Him alone. If we're trusting in our government or in the economy, we're not trusting God.

... and thats idolatry.

... and thats a sin.

Jesus could come back before I finish this post. Have you considered at all today that we could be in heaven before we all turn in for the night? What have you done for Jesus today? What have you done to let others know today that they can escape with us?

Time is short. Be it rapture, or by death. Time is short.

I've been to the funeral of 4 people in the last two years who were in their early 40's... we dont have as much time as we think.

Dont waste it.

Krispy

I like both your posts Krispy Kritter. Ha.
Now I finally know how you got your name.
Yer sizzlin' man. :-D


I didn't mean to stir it up on here ... I just get upset when I hear that "chicken little" statement and all and those folks at that verichip forum only post that stuff on that forum ... that's why that's the "name" of that Forum ... we can't judge them as being unspiritual, because we don't know where else and what else they post on some other Christian Forum.
That's obvious, because the few times I looked at it since last nite, there's never anybody there and they only have I think 108 members or something.

Forgive me to the new guy (is it Matt ?), who posted on the Verichip site, but I didn't want to come right out with hauling off on you personally, because I don't know you at all and I didn't want to say the wrong thing to you, without having read anything else by you.

I just don't like that "chicken little" stuff, where it comes to Eschatology, which I love and "it" gives me more strength then I ever thought I was capable of.

Because, unlike my brother Krispy, I'm a Post-tribber, so talk about getting "fired at" ... :-D

I may even get as Krispy as Krispy. Ha.

I believe some of us will surely give our lives, some will "remain" till the Coming of the Lord and the rest ... well .... they'll take the verichip .... ho-ho. ;-)

But I'm glad Krispy posted this thread and I appreciate his post here too.

Diane, don't forget that Rev. 1:2 is "defined" in Rev 19:10 " .... for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

I still say though, that this subject isn't a favorite 'round here and I hope that'll change.

I 'would' like to read that thread where Robert wrote something ... if someone would tell me where it is. I really enjoy his writings also.


Thanks again Krispy for not blasting me for ruining your thread. Amen, thanks !

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Farai Bamu

bro Krispy

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Farai Bamu

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Diane