| Poster | Thread |
| | Re: Compute | | [u]Please[/u] read this ...
I've seen the "buying and selling" technology and it's already being used. It's the technology of the chip.
I will add that there are many "and"s and "or"s in connection with The Beast.
And to the others, please notice these verses and see that it is not just the chip; but is clear that it {the mark} must be physical.
Rev 13:17 [i]And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, [u]or[/u] the name of the beast, [u]or[/u] the number of his name.[/i]
Rev 13:18 [u]Here is wisdom. Let him that hath 'understanding'[3563] 'count'[5585][/u] the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
That word to "count" means an intelligent "compute". That is implying that there must be use of one's Brain to "figure" and one can only "figure" if they know what to look [u]for[/u] {"hath understanding"}.
Please notice all of the "and"s and "or"s and "neither"s ...
Rev 13:17 [i]And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, [u]or[/u] the name of the beast, [u]or[/u] the number of his name.[/i]
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, [i]If any man worship the beast and his image, [u]and[/u] receive his mark in his forehead, [u]or[/u] in his hand[/i] ....
Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, [i]who worship the beast [u]and[/u] his image, [u]and[/u] whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.[/i]
Rev 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: [i]and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, [u]and[/u] over his image, [u]and[/u] over his mark, [u]and[/u] over the number of his name[/i], stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.
Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and [i]there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, [u]and[/u] upon them which worshiped his image.[/i]
Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived [i]them that had received the mark of the beast, [u]and[/u] them that worshiped his image.[/i] These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, [i]and which had [u]not[/u] worshiped the beast, [u]neither[/u] his image, [u]neither[/u] had received his mark [u]upon[/u] their foreheads, or [u]in[/u] their hands;[/i] and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
It's also important in these above verses to see that there may be those who do not necessarily take a chip but are just as guilty of "worshipping the beast or/and his image".
Some having "prior knowledge" of a chip, and I know many who are not Regenerated but are saying presently that they will not take any such chip, yet because they are not 'regenerated' will still marvel at this beast and it's system or power.
Or one can take the mark, thinking "I don't worship this beast, but I have to be able to buy food and all."
Making three ways to be damned.
|
|  2006/3/7 10:23 | |
| | Re: | | I absolutely believe it will be a mark similar to a tatoo of sorts. It will be something easily identifiable... and I believe it will be in conjunction with the chip.
Dogs have this already... a chip implant with owner info, etc... and they get a tag for their collar that indicates to a vet if they have this chip. A mark, if you will.
Krispy |
| | 2006/3/7 11:08 | |
| | Re: | | Krispy, I agree and have stated so also on page one.
But the important part that I also think we need to see is that, some may also 'not' take the chip yet be damned ... {which is also a GPS unit and holds all personal 'profiling' data that is already collected and being collected as we type :-D } ... but there are those out there ... that know all of this about the chip, and have clearly stated that they will not by any means "take it" ... but they are Not Saved.
Then the others who don't believe it is a chip and will take it thinking they are not worshipping the beast OR his image.
The Three Damnable ways.
Yet, unless they are those who "will be" saved ... they will be still "taken in" in their thinking by the Beast and marvel at him or the system of the beast.
That is why these verses in that post above need to be looked at One Word At A Time. And also with the original language.
Such as the "in" and "upon" in Rev 20:4 and most especially all the "or"s - "and"s - "neither"s.
Thanks.
|
| | 2006/3/7 11:53 | | Greenquality
Member
Joined: 2006/1/26
Posts: 189
mountains of Pa.
| | Re: | | What I'm saying,this person who has autism,and who is gifted from God, also is able to to express what he does in his mind with numbers.number are shapes sound textures color,very abstract in our understanding of numbers,he see's the number( 6) as having no shape ,volid, dark, a nothingness. to me I'm profounded,because the mark of the beast is 666,In the jewish tradition any mark on the body or tatoo is forbiden.During WW2 we seen this done. How do you think we will be fooled again?we already know not to take a mark of any sort.BUT we can be fooled in are mind to believe in somthing that is false,Cain bore a mark for his protection by God. I think in terms, anti-christ as being christ like. like pepsi and Coke which is the real coke? they look a like, they have the same bubbly co2 and color! but they taste differently. |
| | 2006/3/7 13:09 | Profile | Greenquality
Member
Joined: 2006/1/26
Posts: 189
mountains of Pa.
| | Re: | | Here a test! read.... matt ch 4 ver6... and read ps91:11,12 which one of these verses that is being Quoted, is false,or twisted? |
| | 2006/3/7 13:18 | Profile |
| | Re: | | Quote:
Greenquality wrote:
A very young gifted man, with autism . who is called the Brainman very gifted in split second mathematics,who crossed the bridge into are social world and describes what he see in his mind. he see's numbers as moving landscape,shapes, color,texture,and sounds.he goes on to tell what he see's the (# 2 )is motion has purposeful movement.the( # 5)is the sound of thunder. then he say's somthing which struck a chord to me, he describes the( # 6) as being shapeless, empty,a voild,a darkness , a black hole if you will.the only number that has no mark........I know from the past the marking on the arm and head was used during ww2 , in the death camps, for the Jews ,Gypsy, Serbs.It makes you think !!! but I think it will be a mark of a system of thought,an emptyness,a voild.lack of understanding. but this is me just talking,but I'am profound and prefixed how God and his truly gifted people ,who society thinks as Handicap,or having phsical,or mental disadvantages.stumble the minds of greatest scientist,and who can think faster than any computer,or store imformation and recall it, like Kim peek,who the movie was made after the rain man.He knows the Bible!!better than any E-sword program. and in his disadvantages,he say's "we should treat other's we meet with kindness"
Friend, even though there's a few thoughts going on in your post here, it is well received.
First off ... with a little investigation you will find out that IBM ran the "numbering" of the prisoners of WW2 and that if you go back from Applied Digital Solutions and the Digital Angel (some of the chip makers), those smaller names, really originated and belong to IBM again.
About "Numbers" ... phew ... the beast system 'is' very very spiritual and very much into "numbers" ... but that is the dark side that your autistic genius sees "6" and is so true but Satan counterfeits and "anti.s" all things of God and how God uses numbers.
Those of the dark side, the very mystical mystery religion of the "coming one" are Extremely superstitious in their use of numbers and won't even "do" anything, unless it is on a "certain date and a specific numerical time".
You also mentioned "shapes, color,texture,and sounds" .... Our God is SOOOOOO unimaginably BIG that all things 'are' connected in all of these things .... but Satan and cohorts have perverted all created things into their own dark religion(s) and the New Age unto this darker world that
"anti" Christ will appear from have all this "wisdom" inverted and twisted and I'm afraid to say, Totally BACKWARDS ... in the darkest sense of that word. That is why their religion has also taken on the name "mystery".
Some really dark stuff there.
And Amen to your Last Line :-) .
Who knows "who" we're entertaining unawares.
Of Angels or men or Prophets or Priests.
Lord Bless brother.
Annie |
| | 2006/3/7 13:35 | |
| | Re: revelations "who can interprete it" | |
Hi Greenquality,
I looked up both verses and apart from the obvious - that the New Testament is close to a quote from the Old - it might be asking too much to expect Lucifer to use the word of God honestly.... might it not?
|
| | 2006/3/7 13:35 | | ginnyrose
Member
Joined: 2004/7/7
Posts: 7534
Mississippi
| | Re: | | There will still be people who will take that mark and rationalize it by saying God would not be so cruel to damm them...He is too loving!!! and they are too good! Just like a lot of other things. To prepare ourselves for this possibility, we must now do things that are unpoplar, be obedient to things we do not like to do...you fill in the blanks...all of us, I would reckon, have to deal with this in one form or another.We cannot now be careless in our obedience and then expect it will be easier when things get difficult.
ginnyrose
_________________
Sandra Miller
|
| | 2006/3/7 22:24 | Profile |
| | Re: | | John was saying this, Those of you who are Seers can interpret this. Seers (Not Roebuck) are both wise and have understanding. The counting aspect has no bearing without the prerequiste of one who has understanding.
Understanding does not come via, your own intellect, using dictionaries and other sources of information. God's understanding has nothing to do with that. Wisdom is not a wise proverb in a fortune cookie, nor is it given to those who are educated.
Wisdom is not a set of words written down, wisdom is the express discourses of God. It's what God has done, is doing, and will do. Thats wisdom.
When John wrote, "Here is Wisdom", he is simply saying, "This is what God is doing".
Many of you will want scripture and verse, it's interlaced in the word, you'll have to just know His Word to see it.
Karl |
| | 2006/3/8 7:00 | |
| | Re: | | Quote:
John was saying this, Those of you who are Seers can interpret this. Seers (Not Roebuck) are both wise and have understanding. The counting aspect has no bearing without the prerequiste of one who has understanding.
Understanding does not come via, your own intellect, using dictionaries and other sources of information. God's understanding has nothing to do with that. Wisdom is not a wise proverb in a fortune cookie, nor is it given to those who are educated.
Wisdom is not a set of words written down, wisdom is the express discourses of God. It's what God has done, is doing, and will do. Thats wisdom.
When John wrote, "Here is Wisdom", he is simply saying, "This is what God is doing".
Many of you will want scripture and verse, it's interlaced in the word, you'll have to just know His Word to see it.
Karl,
Thank you for this. I very much enjoyed it. Soul food. Amen.
|
| | 2006/3/8 7:31 | |
|
