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| | Re: | | | Edgar was a dear friend and a member of our church here in Reading UK for some years before his homecall. He was a gentle, gracious man with a mischievous sense of humour! His view of the Revelation interpretation was what is usually called 'Historic'. The other main views are Pretorist, Futurist and Idealist.
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|  2006/3/5 12:16 | Profile | Greenquality
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| | Re: | | I know nobody want to hear from me ,but i really think the mark of the beast is in your forhead,to say in your mind.!! |
| | 2006/3/5 12:42 | Profile | crsschk
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| | Re: Edgar F. Parkyns | | To draw attention once again to this highly recommended series that Matt brought forth;
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2411&forum=40&19]Edgar F. Parkyns on Church History - 10 Sessions[/url]
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Edgar was a dear friend and a member of our church here in Reading UK for some years before his homecall. He was a gentle, gracious man with a mischievous sense of humour! His view of the Revelation interpretation was what is usually called 'Historic'. The other main views are Pretorist, Futurist and Idealist.
Thanks Ron,
What a blessing for us to have some of his tremendous work here.
Had to re-write part of this... Got thrown by the 'quote's' surrounding 'historic'. Was originally of the mind to say "Why is this view not more prevelant...?"
For some outtakes of the series see [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9605&forum=35#73336]this thread[/url] and look for [b]CJaKfOrEsT[/b]'s contributions there.
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| | 2006/3/5 12:53 | Profile |
| | Re: | | Well that's comforting Ron.
But what is "Idealist" ? Ha, that made me smile, but I'm not sure if it's funny or not.
I just thought, "Ideally" speaking would be, we wake up tonight all in Heaven. But .... |
| | 2006/3/6 1:19 | | ginnyrose
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| | Re: revelations "who can interprete it" | | I do not find the book of Revelation difficult to 'understand'. It is a book that details a vision given to John by Jesus of what will happen in the future. Knowing this, understanding it, will remove a lot of the difficulty many have with the book.
The book tells us in chapter 1: 3: "blessed is he that readeth and they that hear the words of this prophecy.." Read it expectig a blessing and pay careful attention to the verbs, adverbs. If you do so it will eliminate a lot of confusion. And do not worry about trying to figure out whether something has happened yet or not. Just read it for its own sake. And then read it again, and again, and again....Visualize what John saw..asking the Holy Spirit for illumination.
I think a lot of people are spooked by the book because of the wide ranging of disagreements concerning the book.(Read it WITHOUT referring to any reference books, like commentaries). Methinks this is a ploy of the Enemy to keep people away from studying it. It can be a very blessed experience reading, studying it if you make up your mind you will get into it.
BTW, I even taught it to 9-11 year old children using the inductive method of Bible study! That was fun! and a blessing! Having said that, it is a book whose understanding has a way of diminishing with time. I have to study it intently to retain the message and understanding. I do not know why unless it is that this knowledge is more of recent orgin....and I am getting older... :-(
Read it for all its worth and them come back and tell us how you were blessed!
Just my thoughts,
ginnyrose
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| | 2006/3/6 22:55 | Profile |
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ginnyrose wrote:
(Read it WITHOUT referring to any reference books, like commentaries). Me thinks this is a ploy of the Enemy to keep people away from studying it. ginnyrose
Me thinks you've said that right sister.
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| | 2006/3/6 23:01 | | saved_matt
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Visualize what John saw
I have a friend who has got Revelation in pictorial form, dont know who drew them but they're supposed to be pretty amazing like the Great angel and the little book in Rev 10 standing on the land and the sea, i think my friend has them in powerpoint format ill ask if i can have a copy and see if Greg will put them in with the pictures, should be fascinating to see,
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| | 2006/3/7 2:50 | Profile |
| | Re: | | Greenquality wrote:
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I know nobody want to hear from me
My friend, your thoughts and words are always welcome here. Dont ever hold back just because someone may disagree. If I did that I would never post here!
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i really think the mark of the beast is in your forhead,to say in your mind.!!
You're free to interpret that as you wish, however I think it is a literal mark because scripture makes it abundantly clear that without the mark one will not be able to "buy or sell". Also it speaks of the mark being on the [b]hand[/b] or the forehead.
The technology is already here to implant a computer chip under the skin which can carry all of your medical information, banking information, etc. Just like we hardly use cash anymore because of the availibility of debit and credit cards, soon we can have this chip under our skin and "swipe" your hand under a scanner at Walmart. If this doesnt sound like the descripion of the mark of the beast, I dont know what is. And think of the how one could be controlled by this as well. All they need to do it put a GPS on this chip, and someone could know the where abouts of anyone who had this. You already have a GPS on you right now if you carry a cell phone. Or OnStar.
I'm telling you, folks... the Lord is at the door. If you arent ready, you better get ready. I honestly believe that most of us on this forum will not taste death.
By the way, this may seem nit-picky, but the last book of the Bible is called Revelation... not Revelation[b]s[/b]. While that may not seem a big deal, I think it is foundational to understanding Revelation. While there are many things revealed in Revelation, the book is about [b]one[/b] revelation, and that is of the Lord Jesus Christ. Once you grasp that concept, it does help to understanding the rest.
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| | 2006/3/7 7:55 | |
| | Re: revelations "who can interprete it" | | Annie wrote:
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My bark was more directed at what I've heard being pushed about by our more modern day speakers, that are saying all sorts of things about the mark, like, it's just a "spiritual thing", instead of being an actual mark as the Greek implies of more of a scratch or graven mark.
Is there a difference between the word used in Revelation and that in
(NKJV) 2 Corinthians 3:3
clearly [you are] an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, [b]written[/b] not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but [b]on tablets of flesh[/b], [that is,] [u]of the heart[/u].
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| | 2006/3/7 8:05 | |
| | Re: | | Dorcas... i prefer the way the KJV puts it:
2Co 3:3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
In other words, Paul wrote letter with ink, but we are living letters... and example unto all men because God's Word is written on our hearts. And what is in our hearts is what will be seen on the outside. Good stuff in our hearts, good lives. Bad stuff, bad lives. Garbage in, garbage out so to speak.
By the way, glad you made it back. Sorry I couldnt get down to see ya when you passed thru NC. I hope you enjoyed our wonderful state.
Krispy |
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