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philologos
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 Re: Ron Bailey Instant Sanctification

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Ron, I listened to your "convention" messages last night, and I heard you say that you believe in Instant Sanctification.

I have had a pm asking which one this was. I suspect it is somewhere in the series I did entitled 'having begun in the Spirit' in Rora House Conference, Devon, UK 2003.
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=2161]1. Regeneration: a change of direction[/url]
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=2164]2. Justification: a change of legal status[/url]
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=2165]3. Regeneration: a change in nature[/url]
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=2166]4. Adoption: a change in relationship[/url]

It won't be called 'Instant Sanctification'.


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RobertW
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The word you are searching for is not sanctification but glorification. The first has to be 100% from the first moment, the latter will go on throughout life.



And if I might borrow one of your lines from Rora, it would be:

"[i]instant[/i] sanctification and [i]progressive[/i] glorification."

In this model the word 'glorification' is [i]basically[/i] used how most Christians use the word 'sanctification.'


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Robert Wurtz II

 2006/1/27 8:31Profile









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Thanks Ron for bringing that to my attention, you have a way of bringing things into a 3D format.

I am by no means a teacher and my IQ is in the toilet, but I receive things by faith and believe that what you have said to be true in the light of comparing scripture with scripture.

Stay meek and submit more meaningful audio messages! ;-)

 2006/1/27 12:06
philologos
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I came across this today from Oswald Chambers and thought readers of this thread might be interested in his 'title'. :-D February 8th.

INSTANTANEOUS AND INSISTENT SANCTIFICATION
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly." 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24

When we pray to be sanctified, are we prepared to face the standard of these verses? We take the term sanctification much too lightly. Are we prepared for what sanctification will cost? It will cost an intense narrowing of all our interests on earth, and an immense broadening of all our interests in God. Sanctification means intense concentration on God's point of view. It means every power of body, soul and spirit chained and kept for God's purpose only. Are we prepared for God to do in us all that He separated us for? And then after His work is done in us, are we prepared to separate ourselves to God even as Jesus did? "For their sakes I sanctify Myself." The reason some of us have not entered into the experience of sanctification is that we have not realized the meaning of sanctification from God's standpoint. Sanctification means being made one with Jesus so that the disposition that ruled Him will rule us. Are we prepared for what that will cost? It will cost everything that is not of God in us.

Are we prepared to be caught up into the swing of this prayer of the apostle Paul's? Are we prepared to say - "Lord, make me as holy as You can make a sinner saved by grace"? Jesus has prayed that we might be one with Him as He is one with the Father. The one and only characteristic of the Holy Ghost in a man is a strong family likeness to Jesus Christ, and freedom from everything that is unlike Him. Are we prepared to set ourselves apart for the Holy Spirit's ministrations in us?


July 23rd
The Life Side. The mystery of sanctification is that the perfections of Jesus Christ are imparted to me, not gradually, but instantly when by faith I enter into the realization that Jesus Christ is made unto me sanctification. Sanctification does not mean anything less than the holiness of Jesus being made mine manifestly.


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Ron Bailey

 2006/2/3 4:37Profile









 Re: Instant Sanctification

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The mystery of sanctification is that the perfections of Jesus Christ are imparted to me, not gradually, but instantly when by faith I enter into the realization that Jesus Christ is made unto me sanctification. Sanctification does not mean anything less than the holiness of Jesus being made mine manifestly.

This is confirmed in these two scriptures, also:

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

1 Corinthians 1
29 That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.


In 3D life, believing into this has to be accompanied by further re-inforcement of one's initial sanctification, through [i]repeated[/i] decisions to cease from sin, and to continue ceasing from sin.


1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

 2006/5/12 13:00
RobertW
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OswaldC.'s: [i] It will cost everything that is not of God in us.[/i]



As I aquaint myself with more of Ron's teachings I find that this statement of Oswals Chambers summs things up as well as I could hope.




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Robert Wurtz II

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This says we have been sanctified (perfect tense i.e. The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated.) once for all, this does not happen over a period of time.



This is not quite what the perfect tense is. The perfect tense is an action that was completed in the past that continues to impact into the here and now.


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Jimmy H

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 Re: Ron Bailey

Recall this thread, great to re-read through it again.

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It will cost an intense narrowing of all our interests on earth, and an immense broadening of all our interests in God. Sanctification means intense concentration on God's point of view.



Some treasures here.


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Mike Balog

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 Re: Instant Sanctification


Robert,

I was interested in the sentence you picked out from OC. Is it that there is, beyond giving up sin, the need for a willingness to give up even legitimate pastimes and activities, which are not [i]intrinsically[/i] sinful, but because they conflict with His will for our lives, we have to regard them as potentially as damaging as sin?

Oswald Chambers said

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Sanctification means being made one with Jesus so that the disposition that ruled Him will rule us. Are we prepared for what that will cost?

John 5
19 Verily, verily, I say unto you, [b]The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do[/b]: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because [b]I seek not mine own will[/b], but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

 2006/5/12 17:04





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