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| John 9:4 | | [url=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%209:4;&version=45;]John 9:4[/url] (AMP) 4 We must work the works of Him Who sent Me and be busy with His business while it is daylight; night is coming on, when no man can work.
I have read this scripture and also some others like it in the past.
I'd like to know everyone's opinion (i look at both sides before I come to a conclusion, cause I don't think you can really know something until you know 'both sides')
I personally think this is referring to a time before His second coming where all the saints will be 'disabled' to prophesy/heal/etc. Then Christ will return. (there is another referance in the OT) But again, this is my opinion and I'm openly asking for yours.
I can easily see how one would say 'see the gifts have ceased when Christ leaves'. But that would be in error due to the Apostles doing the works of Christ (healing/prophesy..etc).
So, opinions plz. Try to defend your opinion with scripture. If not, bring some good analogy's to defend yourself. |
| 2006/1/17 1:50 | | InTheLight Member
Joined: 2003/7/31 Posts: 2850 Phoenix, Arizona USA
| Re: John 9:4 | | The context of this verse is that of the healing of a man who was blind from birth. The disciples look at the man and can only think of who's fault it is that he's blind, "who did sin?", they ask. Jesus looks at the man and sees an opportunity for God to be glorified.
I think this verse is about looking for and taking ahold of opportunities that come our way every "day". Time and opportunities should not be wasted for who knows if you'll be here tomorrow. It will be too late to work out your salvation when the "night" of death comes.
In verse 5 Jesus says He is the light of the world, in both His inward life and His outward teaching and deeds He shows the world the will of God and manifests His glory. He took advantage of every opportunity to do this for He knew that His time in a physical body on earth was short. We must heed this example.
In Christ,
Ron _________________ Ron Halverson
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| 2006/1/17 8:41 | Profile | Christinyou Member
Joined: 2005/11/2 Posts: 3710 Ca.
| Re: | | John 9:35-41 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when he had found him, he said unto him, Dost thou believe on the Son of God? He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him. And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind. And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also? Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
This is our opportunity to "see". All that are born in sin and are blind only have to believe that Jesus Christ is the "Son of God", as the blind man eyes were opened to see much more than just his receiving his sight.
Are we believing what the Holy Spirit is saying to us about this Christ that is born again in us.
Yes, this Jesus is our new sight into the things of the Kingdom of God, by which we in Him are able to see what great salvation we have in Him.
John 9:36-38 He answered and said, Who is he, Lord, that I might believe on him? And Jesus said unto him, Thou hast both seen him, and it is he that talketh with thee. And he said, Lord, I believe. And he worshipped him.
Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
1Pe 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Oh, that we might see what our new sight has given us, Jesus Christ the Incorruptable Seed by the Word of God Himself, Who liveth and abides in us forever. Colossians 1:26-28 Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; (((which is Christ in you,))) the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
These are the Works of the Father glorified in Christ Jesus, of Whom we have His Faith, Wisdom, Righteousness, Sanctification and Redemption.
John 9:3-5 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of Him that sent Me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. Is He in the World in His brothers and sisters? Yes, Amen.
In Christ: Phillip
_________________ Phillip
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| 2006/1/18 17:13 | Profile | philologos Member
Joined: 2003/7/18 Posts: 6566 Reading, UK
| Re: | | InTheLight's Quote:
The context of this verse is that of the healing of a man who was blind from birth. The disciples look at the man and can only think of who's fault it is that he's blind, "who did sin?", they ask. Jesus looks at the man and sees an opportunity for God to be glorified.
Have you ever tried re-punctuating this section? (there was no punctuation in the original) And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. (John 9:1-4, KJVS)If we change the punctuation we could read.And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: [i]But that the works of God should be made manifest in him I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.[/i] (John 9:1-4 re-punctuated.) I have removed the full-stop/period after 'him'. In fact the word translated 'but' is usually translated 'and' which would carry the flow much more sweetly. _________________ Ron Bailey
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