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Graftedbranc
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As for holiness...i think have answered my own question. Holiness being an attitude that produces a standing or the other way around--the end result is the same. Holy actions brought forth through holy stnading and attitude. Not us trying to produce it, rather it producing its self through us? Am i amking sense?



Holiness is Just God's nature. God is Holy. And we as believers in Christ have been "made partakers of the Divine Nature."

Practical holiness is just God expressed. It is God's nature wrought into us and worked out in us.

How can I, a sinful man, be made holy? Is it by determining and setting myself to live by a certian moral standard? Is it by my determination to eliminate all "unholiness" from my life and living? Is it by me doing anything?

Or is Holiness just the Person of Christ whom we believe into and who indwells us?. Is not my work to believe into Him? To recieve Him and to expect as I look to Him in faith, to work Himself into me and to constitute me with Himself and to express Himself in me and through me?

Is not our work to labor to obtain and eat Christ as the "Bread of Heaven"? To assimilate Him through prayer and spending time in His Word, and calling on Him and asking Him to grow in us and fill us and be expressed in us?

Is it not true that the more time we spend in fellowship with Christ in His Word, the more we partake of Him and the more we find Him in our spirit strengthening us the more we like to spend time with Him? And does His Presnence within us not cause us to desire more and more to live by Him and to express Him? Is not holiness just the issue of His Life within us?

Surely we must yield to His working and surely we must deal with those things which the Spirit within us shines on. But how can we who by nature love sin, deal with sin except by the Spirit's work within us convicting us and enlightening us and causing us to hate sin and to love Him and desire Him?

Our great need is revelation. To know that we do not have to strive to be holi but rather to rest in Christ who is within us as our holiness. We have to experience Christ daily as our food, our drink, and our nourishment. And through this means we become constituted with His Life and His holiness becomes our life and living.

When we have the revelation of Christ as our holiness, we quit trying to be holy. There is nothing more anoying than someone trying to be holy and rightouse. Instead, we call on the Lord and confess, "Lord Jesus, I thank you I have no need to make myself holy. I thank you that you are within me and You are already holy. I thank you that you delight to express yourself through me. I call on you Lord to be yourself in me."

When we take this position and call on the Lord He does not fail to work in us. We find something within us, but not "of us" working. We experience His Life within us and we are kept, we are saved in His Life from unholiness, from temptation, from whatever it is.


Graftedbranch

 2006/1/19 17:23Profile









 Re: Question of Holiness

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[b]Is not [u]our work to labor[/u] to obtain and eat Christ as the "Bread of Heaven"?[/b]

To know that [b][u]we do not have to strive[/u] to be holi [u]but rather to rest in Christ[/u] who is within us as our holiness[/b].

Bro GB,

I don't think we have to 'work' to feed on Him, but, we do have to want to, or, it's the easiest thing to neglect.... We have been called to eat and drink with Him ... we have to attend at the table....

Amen to 'but rather to rest in Christ'.

Our [b]work[/b], is to enter into HIS REST. (Heb 4)

 2006/1/20 0:07
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I use to "want to" do my own thing and do things for others that would benefit me. I did everything with motives that would make me happy or so I thought. Then one day I believed in Jesus Christ and His Spirit was birthed in me and all motives began to change. We have all heard it before, when we get our new life in Christ, He gives us a new "want to". All His want when He was on this earth as the Man God, all He wanted was to please His Father and do His will. With the knowing that Christ brings into our being and our mind by the Holy Spirit and the Mind of Himself, that is Christ in us the Hope of Glory, we have the same "want to," that Jesus Had, and that is how we become the works of Christ. Line upon line and precept upon precept, "for the life I now live I live by the Faith of the Son of God, who loves me and gave Himself for me." This is our rest, to know that The Love of Christ shed abroad In our hearts will give the only Person credit that deserves it, and that is Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior, Who of God has been born again in us and we are becoming more like Christ everyday, not by our works but by His. May we all rest in our agreement with Amen's that never end. Amen is not the end but just the beginning of the next Amen.

In Christ: Phillip


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 2006/1/20 4:10Profile
Graftedbranc
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I don't think we have to 'work' to feed on Him, but, we do have to want to, or, it's the easiest thing to neglect.... We have been called to eat and drink with Him ... we have to attend at the table....



Brother, I was just expounding the verses. It is the Lord Himself who said. "Labor for the food that does not perish". He then said, "This is the work of God, that you believe on Him whom He has sent". Then He said. "I am the Bread of Life".

This is the Lord's teaching. And a consideration of the verses shows that feeding on Him as the Bread of Life is our work which is also our believing in HIm.

That is by feeding on Him we grow in faith. And our work is to believe into Him.

And our feeding on Him as the Bread of Life is a reference to the daily Manna which the Isrealites enjoyed in the wilderness.

And Christ is the Manna. And the Manna was the Bread of heaven.

Our Lord taught this.

Graftedbranch

 2006/1/28 21:35Profile





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