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 Salvation

I was just reading something from TA Sparks and doing a little study on both the Hebrew and Greek words translated as 'salvation'. Strong's says;

soteria
so-tay-ree'-ah
Feminine of a derivative of G4990 as (properly abstract) noun; rescue or safety (physically or morally): - deliver, health, salvation, save, saving.

yeshu ah
yesh-oo'-aw
Feminine passive participle of H3467; something saved, that is, (abstractly) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity: - deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.


I found it interesting that it is a word used for health. I began thinking about how much pain and disease afflicts our bodies since the Fall, since being seperated from God. Man has left his environment that is God, and we lost something that is essential to life, and we fall into physical and spiritual disease and death, into disorder. Salvation(health) is a return into God, ultimately a restoration of order, and so Jesus stressed the need to "Abide in Me". Abide in Him for health's sake, for life's sake, for the sake of everything!

In Christ,

Ron


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Ron Halverson

 2003/11/18 18:25Profile
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 Re: Salvation

The Hebrew for the word "salvation" was Yeshuah? Wasn't the Greek form of that name Jesus? Is that why Jews say the Messiah's name was to be Yeshuah, which kinda sounds like Joshua?
Does anyone know about the name prophecies for the Messiah? Can we post about that a bit, in relation to this word study on "salvation"?


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Mary M.

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Hi C7S
Joshua's original name was Oshea:
Numbers 13:16 These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua.
Oshea means salvation, Jeh-oshua means Jevovah is Salvation.
Jehovah was the name under which God revealed Himself in unique ways to Israel. Jehoshua/Joshua/Jesus means everything that Jehovah means and additionally that He is the Saviour.

God's names are not labels but revelations of His character. Jesus/Jehoshua is the ultimate revelation of God's character; added to all that He has said before He adds 'Saviour'. God has exalted this 'name' above every name; this name is an even greater revelation of the character of God than is Jehovah; Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. The name of Jesus is 'higher' than that of Jehovah.

When those folks come knocking on my door I often ask them 'Are you Jehovah's Witnesses?' and they say 'yes' I usually say 'that's interesting I'm a Jesus' Witness, would you like to know the difference?' Some think I am a one-man sect but I explain that Jesus declared 'the power of the Holy Spirit coming upon you, you shall be witnesses unto Me'. One of the proofs that the Spirit has come is that people become Jesus' Witnesses.


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Ron Bailey

 2003/11/19 10:29Profile
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God's names are not labels but revelations of His character.


I once did a study of the names of God and I saw in Genesis that God continued to reveal Himself in a more intimate way as time went on. Each name bringing out more of his tender love for us, His creation.

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Saviour


Ron, a quick question: is there a difference between 'Saviour' and 'Savior'?

[b]2 Peter 2:20 (kjv)[/b] - For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knoweldge of the Lord and [u]Saviour[/u] Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them that the beginning.

[b]2 Peter 2:20 (niv)[/b] - If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and [u]Savior[/u] Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning.


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 2003/11/22 19:41Profile
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your quote:
Ron, a quick question: is there a difference between 'Saviour' and 'Savior'?

Hi Greg
Yes. compare...
1. flavour and flavor
2. colour and color
3. savour and savor

there's a big difference, it's called the Atlantic Ocean! :-D


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there's a big difference, it's called the Atlantic Ocean!


ha! hey I never had that much grammer and basic lessons as a youth, I was quite deliquent.


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:-D Good stuff with the spelling bit.
Thank you so much for laying that out for me, Ron. Awesome help and teaching. Thank you!


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I never had that much grammer and basic lessons as a youth,


I heard a story about an ex-slave from America's deep south. She acquired a wide reputation for her wisdom and counsel. When asked how she acquired such abilities she replied "well, when you have had no education you just have to use your brains". :-D


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