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| | Re: | | Isn't there a verse that says 'dont even do anything that has the appearance of sin'??
Something like that. After i read 'Every Young Man's Battle', there were enough scriptures to exspose it, and then enough to encouage and gave suggestions to have 'a support/accountablility' group. I agree. |
|  2005/9/19 2:26 | |
| | Re: | | I'll try again.
I believe the Word says, to confess your faults to another.
We must be discerning 'who' we confess them to.
I have a best friend, in the sense that, she is more Christ-like than I feel I am. So I have her to 'confess to', besides my husband.
I don't believe in having "secrets" from anyone.
I don't blab everything on the internet, but with those I associate with regularly, they 'know' me. I dislike fascades, masks or phony-ness.
I can barely think of a sin that the Lord did not deliver me from. But I don't think it helps the Cause to muddy up a Christian setting for me to go into all of my past, that is now under the blood for 30 yr.s, just to prove that I am compassionate to sinners, 'cause I was the scum of the earth and all of that.
I've worked with street people more than any, except for maybe the elderly.
I was bottle feed by David Wilkerson from when I got saved, until I got about 20 yr.s into salvation.
Besides being a Classic fanatic. And why I love this main Website so much.
So maybe I am from the old school. But for almost 2000 yr.s, the old school worked just fine.
I have nothing against books or having someone or two to be accountable to ... it is just the "new stuff" that has entered the Church - 'counciling' ministries that go beyond what is written and a redefining or "renaming" or "specializing" of certain sins over others.
Some even making them "disorders", etc.
I know 'pathological liars', but few "support groups" for them, yet they'll not be saved in the end, if they don't stop. Or back-biters or the jealous, etc. What does God's Word say ?
I am not God ... and don't feel I want to "council" anyone and if anyone on here says that I directed them to anything other than HIS Word and Prayer to Him and to [u]complete 100% dependence on Him and Him alone[/u] ... I would feel I sinned against them and failed them completely.
The Lord has had me in the wilderness for most of my 30 yr.s saved, and NOT by choice.
But thank God, has sent people like David Wilkerson to pray with me and prophecy over me and other things & people of that nature, to know that the Lord wants me to keep pointing people to Just 'Him' and His Word.
Complete Dependence, even works in the wilderness.
That's all the council I have been commanded to give, so I'm truly stuck as far as pleasing all with my council.
I can't get released from that to keep anyone happy with me or talking to me. And I can't repent of it.
David W. said, when you take that stand, once and for all, they'll call you closed minded and arrogant.
So be it. That is how we die to self. And 'that' I want to do, sincerely. Phil 3:9-14.
Love is the first commandment and 'Truth' from His Word and in our inward parts, must be with it, #1.
We just need to love both more than ourselves.
Thanks for hearing me out.
Love.
Annie |
| | 2005/9/19 3:54 | |
| | Re: | | What we did before salvation .....
We're cleansed under the blood, and our sins have been thrown into the sea of forgetfulness.
:-)
He IS for you, so who can be against you.
Resist and God will strengthen and tell the devil to keep his accusations against you to himself.
Love Him.
Annie |
| | 2005/9/19 3:59 | | FallenCloud
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Good Nite for now.
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| | 2005/9/19 4:35 | | lyndon
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| | | 2005/9/20 0:21 | Profile | CJaKfOrEsT
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| | Re: Victory in Christ | | Quote:
YeshuaIsMyGd wrote:
Isn't there a verse that says 'dont even do anything that has the appearance of sin'??
Something like that. After i read 'Every Young Man's Battle', there were enough scriptures to exspose it, and then enough to encouage and gave suggestions to have 'a support/accountablility' group. I agree.
I haven't actually read "Every [b]young[/b] man's battle", but I started to read "Every Man's Battle" and it's interesting that you cite this book. After reading the first chapter, it was evident that these guys seemed to be going for shock value, to the extreme of filling the readers' mind with unecessary temptations.
I was reminded of Kieth Daniel's tesitmony, when he commented about being ashamed of the things that he had done, while others seemed to boast about the things that they had done.
The authors of "Every Man's Battle" go into extreme detail of there visual exploits, to the point of causing weak fleshed readers to salivate as they imagine them (let's face it, people with lust problems are the target audience for the book). One can describe the reality of sin, without glorifying it, on one side, or minimising it's power, on the other, while still identifying with the reader/hearer.
Myself, sexual lust would have to be my greatest foe, next to spiritual pride. I have found that when I confess to God my temptation, without minimising or excusing it (ie, "Father, I really have a serious problem. I am finding myself arouse by that lady, which I know is completely unacceptable to you, because she is not my wife. I know that You would have me see her as You see her, so I ask that you would cause my mind to be renewed in this area, knowing that Your word says that those who ask receive. So, Father I give you room in my life to make this happen." ... or like.), He honours His word in 1 John 1:9, by giving me victory in an area. But whenever I allow myself to think that I can lick it on my own, I fail every time.
The epistle of James has some incredible keys within that can help in this area. For example "God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. Submit yourselves, therefore, to God, resist the devil and he will flee." and "If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask of God liberally". Beliave me, it is humbling to have to admit that your weak, and incapable of being righteous. I goes against everything carnal in you.
I was having a discussion with my father in law the other day, and he said, "The worldly way of learning starts with information, which becomes knowledge to us, we categorise the knowledge into a usable form, and then we become persuaded by it, and it becomes wisdom (ie, applied knowledge). In God's ecconomy, it's all reversed. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. When this wisdom is obeyed, it becomes real in our life, and we begin to come to the place where we '[b]know[/b] the truth, and the truth sets us free'. Free to fear Him more."
Sometimes we have to accept the fact that there is no way that we can defeat sin in our own strength...sorry, did I say sometimes...
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| | 2005/9/20 2:54 | Profile | Wildhorse
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| | Re: Every Mans Battle | | Yes come to think of it, when i read every YOUNG man's battle - the imagery they do use to describe the sin does have that sort of effect on you where it kind of starts to trigger thoughts.
I did read the whole book though and not all of it is like this and i did get some helpful stuff out of it, but i am not quite so sure i would actually recommend it to others though.
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| | 2005/9/20 4:46 | Profile | Conqueror
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| | Re: | | I just wanted to give a plug for settingcaptivesfree.org as well. Its what put me on my road to freedom as well. Bible based and glory to given to God.
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| | 2005/9/20 9:14 | Profile | mloaks
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