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"Pilgrim and Sojourner." - 1 Peter 2:11

 'even denying'

I was reading 2 Peter 2:1-3 and it occoured to me that Christ had redeemed and bought us all already and that we either deny or accept this to our eternal end. The idea of us being able to 'deny' Christ is something that I am careful to look into. I would like to find out more on this subject.

[b]2 Peter 2:1 (kjv)[/b] - But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

[b]even denying[/b] - Both by their doctrine and their works. The Lord that bought them - With his own blood. Yet these very men perish everlastingly. Therefore Christ bought even them that perish.
-Wesley Notes on the Bible.

[b]2 Timothy 2:12-13 (kjv)[/b] - If we suffer, we shall also reign with [i]him[/i]: if we deny [i]him[/i], he also will deny us: If we believe not, [i]yet[/i] he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

Anyone care to comment on this verse?

SI Moderator - Greg Gordon

 2003/11/10 12:59Profile

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 Re: 'even denying'

I think this is what some call "blaspheming the Holy Spirit". God calls you, you say no. I've heard many say that this is the "only unforgivable sin," though I must say that I'd want to look into it more before I say God is unable or refuses to forgive some form of sin.
In 2 Peter 2:1, these false prophets have done this, yet they presume to teach. They know they are not true Christians, yet mislead milky believers.
In 2 Timothy 2:12-13, it's the same. Suffer with Him, reign with Him. Deny Him, be denied on our Judgment Day by Him. If we don't believe in Him, He's not going to stop believing in Himself...that would just be weird.

Mary M.

 2003/11/10 13:31Profile

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 Re: 'even denying'

Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven

A righteous man will receive a righteous reward and an unrighteous man the opposite according to His word. He cannot deny what He has said about righteousness nor unrighteousness/wickedness.

2Sa 22:21 The LORD rewarded me according to my righteousness: according to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me

1Ki 8:32 Then hear thou in heaven, and do, and judge thy servants, condemning the wicked, to bring his way upon his head; and justifying the righteous, to give him according to his righteousness.

Job 27:6 My righteousness I hold fast, and will not let it go: my heart shall not reproach [me] so long as I live

Psa 7:8 The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity [that is] in me

Pro 11:5 The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.

Phi 1:11 Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God.

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

1Jo 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Jouko Hakola

 2003/11/10 23:48Profile

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