No need to shout it, sister Brenda as you are the one who said you minded in the first place. If it is so, then it is all well from me.

PS: What I recall is that you chose to remain silent when I last brought your two contradictory statements.

I do not know, it may be worth withdrawing from SI discussions for me if its lack of Church structure results in us getting into fights that helplessly gets out hands like this.

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You suggested praying together and I refrained. You have made such a fuss about that instead of just accepting it and my wish to leave your church and not discuss with you any more.

I felt the restraining of the Spirit when I first found out that instead of just enquiring out about your online church, I had suddenly become a member. I missed that.

I would have just let it all go but you haven't hence my need to lay it out in public.

A Church cannot belong to a person if I understand scriptures well. But it is well.

PS. Paul setup many churches and none belonged to him. What I remember is that I came here first and asked if any knew of a worthy online Church. When there was no suggestion I later undertook to setup one (having basic web design background).

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How can one have an online church? I get the online community. I get the open communication we have. When we discuss things here, members of the church are discussing things. There is the global church, the body of Christ. But "a church" is a local body. The church is the global body or, perhaps, a regional body. But A church, as in a particular, small group of believers, meets in person and are involved in one another's lives. We can fellowship online to a small degree, but I am not sure you could call it A Biblical church.

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If you have missed it, brother Travis, I have continued outside a local Church for years. I could not find a worthy one locally. But now more so I have a special needs child who is best comfortable at home. I tried to join one AFM church without success due to the special-needs child's odd needs. (and they did not seem to could help much).

Yes the church will be limited but we can sing together, take counsel together, pray together, break bread together, and be there to support each other socially where needed. Share deeper secretes that are not easy to share here on SI so we pray one for another etc.

PS: "Her hip-joint was stiff, so that she was never able to walk without the support of a cane or crutch. For eight years she could not leave her own little yard, nor climb into a carriage, nor walk without support."

Could not leave the yard for 8 years. While there cars now, not all have them for example.

Source: www.gutenberg.org/files/11553/11553-h/11553-h.htm
The wonders of prayer


Oh the said online church is here: https://likechristfellowship.church/ for your perusal.

The thread: https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=66153&forum=35

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Travis

I know this is not what you are looking for, but it has been seen as such throughout church history:

"Two fourth-century fathers clearly make this connection. First, Cyril of Jerusalem:

The multitude of the hearers was confounded;—it was a second confusion, in the room of that first evil one at Babylon. For in that confusion of tongues there was division of purpose, because their thought was at enmity with God; but here minds were restored and united, because the object of interest was godly. (Lecture 17.17)

Gregory of Nazianzus, during his discussion of Pentecost, contrasts Babel:

But as the old Confusion of tongues was laudable, when men who were of one language in wickedness and impiety, even as some now venture to be, were building the Tower; for by the confusion of their language the unity of their intention was broken up, and their undertaking destroyed; so much more worthy of praise is the present miraculous one [i.e., the tongues at Pentecost]. For being poured from One Spirit upon many men, it brings them again into harmony. (Oration 41)

Augustine, shortly thereafter, clearly makes the connection in his exposition of Psalm 55:9:

Recollect that tower of proud men made after the deluge [...] they builded up a lofty tower, and the Lord divided the tongues of them. [...] Through proud men, divided were the tongues; through humble Apostles, united were the tongues. Spirit of pride dispersed tongues, Spirit Holy united tongues. For when the Holy Spirit came upon the disciples, with the tongues of all men they spake, by all men they were understood: tongues dispersed, into one were united. (Psalm LV.10)

A number of later fathers continued this understanding. In the sixth century, we have Pseudo-Fulgentius (quoted in Henri de Lubac, Catholicism) and, quoted here, Arator:

Then there was a confusion of tongues, though they were of the same race; now there is one tongue though the peoples are many. (Quoted in Hiller, Arator on the Acts)

And in the early 8th century, Bede refers to the Church speaking various languages at Pentecost:

How the arrogance of Babylon scattered the unity of languages, [and] the humbleness of the Church gathers it back. (Commentary on Acts)"

https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/48724/who-first-described-pentecost-as-a-reversal-of-babel

I don't know of all Types that are spoken of specifically in scripture.

//I am also not sure how you say that praying in tongues is just not there and then immediately quote Paul saying that when I pray in tongues... Can we just say, "Well pray in tongues does not mean pray in tongues. It means something else." The word here in the Greek for pray is proseuchomai, very clearly the word used for prayer in the entirety of the New Testament.

Is it possible that you have predetermined what you are want the scripture to say?//

Speaking in tongues is in Acts 2. The private prayer language which you seem to be saying that Paul admitted, is not.