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'I deeply appreciate the fact that someone has taken the initiative to chronicle great sermons of the past. I personally find it good from the vantage point of study and encouragement. We must, however, be aware of the human tendency to idolize the past to the point where we so judge the present body of Christ that we lose our own fruitfulness and hope for the future. 'Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not inquire wisely concerning this.' (Ecclesiastes 7:10).'
- Carter Conlon (Senior Pastor of Times Square Church)
This commendation and prophetic word from Carter Conlon to this ministry (and myself) has proven to be true.
I found myself in such a place of critical thinking that I could not accept almost anything good from young Christian leaders or anything happening in the modern body of Christ. It was extreme doom and gloom and world-wide apostasy only.
Of course I still believe in a great falling away and lots of deception that will happen in the end towards the revealing of antichrist. Scriptures are very clear in Matthew 24 and 2 Thessalonions 2.
Yet God is always at work and in ways that are hard for others to receive who saw or have seen God work only in one way. Even if we have experienced the holy spirit baptism in some way we are also in danger or quenching what God will do next if we do not stay in "step" with the Spirit.
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|  2023/11/8 7:22 | Profile | AbideinHim
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“The congregation was alive in God’s service, everyone earnestly intent on the public worship.
; the assembly, in general, were, from time to time, in tears while the Word was preached; some weeping with sorrow and distress,
others with joy and love, others with pity and concern for the souls of their neighbors.”
This is what revival looks like. It is weeping and rejoicing. The older generation has in many instances rejected the move of God among the youth because they didn’t understand it. Read about Andrew Murray, who prayed for revival, and when the Holy Spirit fell on the young people, they became very excited and loud, and Pastor Andrew tried to quiten them down, which he failed to do.
He later realized that man cannot control a move of God.
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| | 2023/11/8 7:40 | Profile | ESchaible
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| | Re: | | Was Times Square church involved in this event, given it was on their door step?
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| | 2023/11/8 7:41 | Profile | narrowpath
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| | Re: Revival meeting Times square live mike signorelli | | I only watched snippets of the vid. Call me a religious bigot if you want. Honestly I was not impressed at all. It didn't sit right with my spirit. I do not like it when people whip up emotions, that borders on ..., well I do not like to say the word.
Are they brothers and sisters in Christ? Probably, I hope so.. Do they use scripture and prayer? Yes.
The thing that really bothers me is when you package Christian messages, prayer and scripture into a worldpleasing, showmanship stage performance.
You would not do that if you were familiar with the unction and power of the holy Spirit and walked in the fear of God.
It is not right to sell an emotional high for a move of the Spirit. The problem is, that when the Spirit really moved, those who are accustomed to the counterfeit stuff will not recognise it.
This is in stark contrast to other beloved preachers featured here on Sermonindex. I cannot imagine that a Keith Daniel, Paul Washer or Zack Poonen would be comfortable to deliver a message in such a setting.
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| | 2023/11/8 7:49 | Profile | AbideinHim
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Brother, do you think that young people that have been in darkness, in bondage in slavery to drugs, pornography, that when they get saved , when the Spirit of God comes upon them, that they will sit still like bumps on the log. No, they’re going to show what is happening on the inside of them by an outward display of praise and thanksgiving to God rejoicing, dancing onto the Lord .
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| | 2023/11/8 8:56 | Profile | drifter
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Was Times Square church involved in this event, given it was on their door step?
Probably not. They didn't say anything about it in their announcements.
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| | 2023/11/8 8:57 | Profile | TMK
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| | Re: | | //The thing that really bothers me is when you package Christian messages, prayer and scripture into a worldpleasing, showmanship stage performance//
Exactly.
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| | 2023/11/8 10:10 | Profile | twayneb
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| | Re: Revival meeting Times square live mike signorelli | | Jeremiah Johnson preaching with Mike signorelli Alexander Pagani?????
I am sorry, but these guys are preaching another gospel than the one found in the Bible. It is a "gospel" laced with the pagan philosophy of the New Thought movement. These men are to be marked and avoided...not celebrated.
I am a pentacostal, raised in the very heart of 20th century pentacost. I believe in the power of God moving among His people. I have seen the dead raised. I have seen the sick made whole. PLEASE dig into what these guys really believe and preach. It is FAR removed from Biblical teaching.
I agree with Todd. Uugh!
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| | 2023/11/8 12:58 | Profile | caleb4life
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| | Re: | | I watched/listened to the whole event (mostly on 2x speed) from the link that was posted.
In light of this discussion about it, this passage has remained on my heart:
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Philippians 1:15-18 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.
While people do not have to agree with (or champion) certain preachers, or events, can there still be a place for trusting Jesus with the results, while hoping and praying for the best?
Afterall, the Apostle Paul was able to rejoice when Christ was proclaimed, even when it was in pretense.
How is this different than that?
Regardless, it pains me to read what comes across to me as harsh comments back and forth among some of the saints here.
I want to commend brother Robert especially for your gentle and humble candor, praise the Lord! I also have to say that I have noticed brother Gary’s writing to be more full of grace in my opinion over the course of time, although once in a while I sense you still get a bit frustrated.
At the same time, I get it, passions can run high in conversations where we have strong disagreements, but still, Lord have mercy. May our speech always be full of grace and seasoned with salt.
I’m so thankful for each of you! ❤️ Definitely iron sharpening iron going on!
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| | 2023/11/8 13:46 | Profile | TMK
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| | Re: | | //Afterall, the Apostle Paul was able to rejoice when Christ was proclaimed, even when it was in pretense.//
Paul didn’t have an issue with their motivations as long as the true gospel was being preached.
The issue on the table is whether the true gospel is being preached or rather a sinister and deceptively close facsimile.
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