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jrgquirino
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 Zac Poonen - Discernment of Spirits - People Falling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEllym_xkkY

True biblical church vs modern day evangelical American church.


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Fred

 2023/5/16 18:38Profile
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 Re: Zac Poonen - Discernment of Spirits - People Falling

John 18:6 ESV
When Jesus said to them, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground

Acts 9:1-43 ESV
But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. Now as he went on his way, he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven shone around him. And falling to the ground, he heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. ...

Matthew 17:6 ESV
When the disciples heard this, they fell on their faces and were terrified.

2 Chronicles 5:14 ESV
So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud, for the glory of the Lord filled the house of God.


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Colin Murray

 2023/5/17 15:51Profile
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Those are very common verses many in the church use to justify this. Heard them many times. They however do not resemble the falling down of what we see today. Think about this, in all those verses, they fell face down, they drew back, etc. is not what we see when people fall to their backs, and someone is expected to catch them. Falling to your face was a reverence to God rather than falling to your back which and someone catches you. Today if you do not fall back then its most likely the spirit did not fill you. This is the reality. It has gotten out of hand in the church. I have even heard of a situation where a woman was prayed over, she apparently fell back, someone caught her but layed her down to hard on the floor and she damaged her head a little. She complained after. Other situation where brothers said that they felt the preacher push them a little. Very different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8HjkDBPNAQ


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I am not going to debate what is right and what is wrong - all I am pointing out is that it does happen and it's in scripture.


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