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Filipe_Costa
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 The Naaman Syndrome

The Naaman Syndrome

2 Kings 5:1

Here we have the portrait of an amazing man. A man who before others was powerful, brave, courageous. This man achieved an enviable reputation as the public saw him.
Naaman's problem was not who he was in public, but who he was at home. He was a hero to all others who saw him, but at home he was a leper.
His family knew the reality behind the courage, the respect. They knew that if he took off the clothes of fame, he was a leper.

Today, how many are in the same situation as Naaman? To others they appear to be one thing, but at home they are another.
I am not talking to the ungodly, I’m talking to those within the church, who like to keep up an appearance before their brethren. They like the spotlight, fame and applause. They like to be praised in front of others. But what they show to others is not consistent with what is shown at home.

No wonder Jesus calls this type of person a Hypocrite. For such a person presents himself as being something which he really is not.
They honor with their lips, but their life is far removed. They move the world to help a stranger, but they don't lift a finger to help their family.
They are eager to help their brother take the speck out of his eye, but they can't get the log out of their own eye.

How many today are lepers in their own lives?
How many young people are trapped in their rooms, in pornography, masturbation...?
On Saturday they commit these sins, but on Sunday they get up to sing or preach.
How many men have mistreated their wives, acting as if she was not the weaker vessel, and say they don't have time to deal with the problem, or they can't... and the next day they are advising another couple how to fix their marriage.

No one can give something they don't have.
Nobody can give help if they themselves need to be helped.

Even today there are modern "Naamans".

How can we find deliverance? 2 Kings 5:10-14

Practice the Word! Not half of the Word, but the whole Word. Naaman was healed because he obeyed.
Start reading the Word and obeying the Word of God.
Live the Word in public and at home. Repent of being a modern Naaman.
Dive into the Jordan of the Bible and the leprosy will leave you.


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Filipe Costa

 2022/8/22 12:58Profile
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 Re: The Naaman Syndrome

Filipe,
you wrote “No one can give something they don't have”

Acts 3:6
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk

What did Peter have that he gave this man ?


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Fletcher

 2022/8/22 20:22Profile
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ello Fletcher.

We can see a few things:
1) Peter had neither silver nor gold (money)
"Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none..." Acts 3:6a
2) Peter had something to give that man (much better than money)
"...but such as I have give I thee:..."Acts 3:6b

Peter had that power because Jesus had given it to him.
In Matthew 10:1 it says "And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease"

Of course, Peter says in Acts 3:12:
"And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk"?

But the idea is that this power he had, does not come from him, but from Jesus who gave it to him.

Although 2Corinthians: 8:12 is in another context, here we have an interesting principle:

"For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not."

The principle of giving what we have and not what we don't have.


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Filipe Costa

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 Re: power / principle

You wrote,
“ But the idea is that this power he had, does not come from him, but from Jesus who gave it to him.“

this power,.. how would you define what you’re referencing ?



You wrote,
“The principle of giving what we have and not what we don't have”
What do you see that Jesus most desires we give ?


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Fletcher

 2022/8/23 22:34Profile
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 Re:

Well, the Greek term conveys the idea of authority.
Some passages which use this same word:

Matthew 9:6 "But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins"...
This word is the same one used for power/authority.

The word power or authority conveys the idea of being over something.
A judge has power/authority over a criminal.
If someone commits a murder that Judge has the authority to send him to jail, as much as the criminal does not want to.

So it was with the disciples, Jesus gave them this power/authority.

Biblically, the most important thing to give is not signs or the gifts of the Spirit, but fruit.
It is possible for a person to have signs but still go to hell, as we see in Matthew 7:21-23

In John 15:8 it says:
"Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples."

In Matthew 7:19-20 it says:
"Every thee that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them"

The fruits show what kind of tree it is.
Therefore our salvation is entirely connected with the fruits we bear.


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Filipe Costa

 2022/8/24 11:45Profile
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 Re:

Amen Brother
Your posts seems like a breath of fresh air.
Blessings


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J Kruger

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 Re: authority/fruit

Filipe,
You wrote, “ So it was with the disciples, Jesus gave them this power/authority.”

Do you find that Jesus still gives this power/authority to disciples today?

Love, joy, peace, kindness, tenderness, thankfulness, faithfulness, patience and self-control....
which of these did Peter give the lame man that made him whole?



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Fletcher

 2022/8/25 8:42Profile
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Hi J Kruger.
Thanks for the encouragement, all glory to the Lord (1 Corinthians 10:31)
Please include me in your prayers, I need God so much, also include my country, so that it is reached by the Lord.
Blessings


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Filipe Costa

 2022/8/25 12:15Profile
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 Re: authority/fruit

Yes, we can observe in 1 Corinthians 12:4-11
"4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. 5 And There are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. 6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all. 7 But the manifestations of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. 8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; 9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to Another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; 10 to another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another diverse kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will."

The Gifts are now distributed by the Holy Spirit who distributes as He sees fit.

Jesus said in John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever"

Jesus would leave this world, but He would send another Comforter to stay with us.
Some things we can observe about this Comforter:
a) He is the Holy Spirit John 14:26
b) He will teach all things and bring to mind what Jesus said John 14:26
c) He guides into all truth John 16:13
d) He convicts the world of Sin, Righteousness and Judgment John 16:8
e) He distributes the gifts as he wishes among the faithful. I Corinthians 12:11

When Jesus was with the Disciples, He Himself gave this power to his apostles, but after His departure it is the Holy Spirit who gives it to us. (as He wants)

Regarding the Fruit, Peter did not bear any fruit to the lame, only an external healing. When a person receives an external healing, he is not internally healed.
Many were healed by Jesus, but they did not follow Him or recognize Him as the Savior.

No one is able to bear fruit in another person.
Galatians 5:22
"But the fruit of the Spirit..."

The fruit is His. He in us produces this fruit.

Peter healed him physically, to point to another who could heal him spiritually.
In Acts 3:12
"And when Peter saw it, he answered unto the people, Ye men of Israel, why marvel ye at this? or why look ye so earnestly on us, as though by our own power or holiness we had made this man to walk?"

and in verse 19 it says:
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord."

The main point is not how many gifts one has, but whether it is possible to see the fruit in his life.
Whoever has the fruit has the Spirit, but he who has the gift does not always have the Spirit.


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Filipe Costa

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“The main point is not how many gifts one has, but whether it is possible to see the fruit in his life.
Whoever has the fruit has the Spirit, but he who has the gift does not always have the Spirit.”

The gifts of the Spirit are distributed to the Body according to the Will of God. Brother Pilipe, you are right that there can be gifts in operation with no fruit, but this is very dangerous for the Body of Christ, and the one operating in the gifts.


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