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dolfan
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Barrett didn’t participate by her own choice.


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Tim

 2021/2/23 11:18Profile
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Hi,
What a cop out by Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh.It only took one more vote for 2 of the cases to be heard.
Well who ever said that she was an Esther will have to rethink and the people who said that the court was either compromised or cowardly have been proven correct.
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 2021/2/23 11:35Profile
dolfan
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I can’t speak to Kavanaugh on this, but Barrett signaled in October that because she didn’t participate in briefing she probably would not participate at all. I disagree that she was cowardly. I believe it is an ethical call. Not the only one but for proper reasons.

And why would anyone expect her to be Esther? America isn’t Israel. Esther wasn’t a justice on a court. It just baffles me when people make these comparisons.

Maybe she’s a Martha or a Mary. Maybe she’s just Amy.


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 2021/2/23 12:27Profile
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Hi
I heard many people see her as a "type "of Esther so you dont have to be from Israel to be a type would be their outlook.
The comparison would be that Esther was put in a place for such a time as this and so was Barrett would be why they said that.Considering that she was put in her position weeks before the election I could see why the comparision.

I think her ethics are very questionable as does Justice Thomas Clarence by all accounts.Its very unethical to use technicalities to drop cases they feel are hot potatoes.
Many people went out on a limb to get both Kavanaugh and Barrett on the court and both have let everyone down cowering behind ethics rather than doing the just and lawful thing,
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 2021/2/23 13:20Profile
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 Re: my place your place




As far as Barrett is concerned, I'd say that the #1 issue is that it's not her place in the first place.

The B-I-B-L-E that's the book for me 🙂

BTW - Where's Sarah Palin?

An easy answer to an easy equation. If you know any math this post all adds up.

I'll have to get back to this thread later. My wife has to go to work now and I've gotta go change the babies diaper 😉

 2021/2/23 14:49Profile
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But, Barrett never asked to be, considered herself to be, made any assurances or representations to be, an Esther or type of Esther. What she said she would do would be hear cases and render decisions based on the Constitution and existing law. She hasn't failed in that regard.

People didn't "go out on a limb" to put Kavanaugh or Barrett on the Supreme Court. They were highly qualified nominees.

I find it astounding that anyone would call either of these out on their ethics for not participating in this or any case. Neither of them had any benefit inuring to them by not participating, neither of them had something to gain. And, don't suggest that they avoided criticism from some quarters because -- especially Kavanaugh -- both of these people have faced more heated criticism than almost anyone in the federal court nomination process ever save Bork and Thomas. And, Kavanaugh may have been as badly mistreated as Justice Thomas. So, to suggest they avoided criticism is just complete cluelessness.

Furthermore, if either of them were to participate based on some sense of quid pro quo --- a sense that they owed it to those who you say "went out on a limb" for their nominations --- that would indeed be unethical. Corrupt, actually. Recusal or non-participation in order to protect political neutrality in the judiciary is not unethical and certainly not "cowering behind ethics". Things are bad enough without compounding that with appearances of serving partisan political interests. Furthermore, in a case such as this where there really is no remedy, and it truly is moot, there is no compelling need to lay aside ethical niceties. This case is one that begs for a political and not a judicial solution.




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Hi
Christians all over the world backed and argued for Kavanaugh in particular and also Barrett to a lesser extent so that when they went into their postition they would do the right thing and not allow injustice to rule but up to now they have failed to protect either the right or the rule of law.
Barrett didnt say Esther of herself,others did and the constitution was clearly broken by many of the swing states as Thomas has said.
The Supreme Court Judges have no problem when it comes to supporting the left, the left leaning Judges show total partiality and loyality and never break rank ,so too suggest the Court is impartial at any stage is not correct nor politically neutral.Barrett only recused herself for her own reasons not for the good of the country.
Clarence Thomas is correct that the cases should be heard to prevent it happening again.The cases were legitimate cases that couldnt be solved politically.Guilliani went the political route and the corrupt politicians ,governors and election boards stalled for time and succeeded.
As for appearances now the whole electorate that voted Trump have been disenfranchised by clear election fraud and clear non constitutional voting.
So nobody on Scotus can argue ethics when they use technicalities and political calculations to not hear a case.Nor can SCOTUS complain they were asked and refused themselves.The only case of any real interest left is Arizona who have been stubborn in their pursuit of justice.

The good thing for me though is now its clearly out of the hands of man and in only the hands of God.
I didnt see that at the start because I personally would have given God the glory at any stage if he chose to step in but now with no political or legal proceedure left to go God will get the glory from everyone if he decides to turn this around.

In the analogy of Lazarus Funeral we are at the stage where Jesus has been informed of Lazarus and he has set out to reach Martha and Mary.
It is down to God now and the majority of Christians either believe in miracles or at least pay lip service to the idea ,so lets wait with interest
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 2021/2/23 17:57Profile
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 Re: okay now





They sow the wind, and so they will reap the whirlwind! The stalk does not have any standing grain;
it will not produce any grain. Even if it were to yield grain, foreigners would swallow it all up.

Israel will be swallowed up among the nations; they will be like a worthless piece of POTTERY. They have gone up to ASSYRIA, like a wild donkey that wanders OFF. Ephraim has hired prostitutes as lovers.

Even though they have hired lovers among the nations,
I will soon gather them together for judgment.
Then they will begin to waste AWAY under the oppression of a mighty king.

Although Ephraim has built many altars for sin offerings,these have become altars for sinning!

I spelled out my law for him in great detail,but they regard it as something totally unknown to them!

They offer up sacrificial gifts to ME, and eat the meat, but the Lord does not accept their sacrifices.

Soon he will remember their WRONGDOING, he will punish their SINS, and they will return to Egypt.

Israel has forgotten his Maker and built royal PALACES, and Judah has built many fortified cities.

But I will send fire on their cities;it will consume their royal citadel. Hosea 8:7-14

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I think the same just may be true of the USA!

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Hi Savannah,
I just dont agree that its time.
Im not saying the US has not done enough sin to go into captivity ,Im just saying its not time.
I think its time that God will show his greatness in how gracious he is,even grace beyond anything we thought was even possible.
If God choses to throw the rule book at the US right now he is totally justified,I just dont think thats what he is about right now .Hes about Grace we cant fathom,
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 2021/2/23 19:33Profile
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 Re: Grace Grace God's Grace...


"Hes about Grace we cant fathom."

I agree 100%

And that Grace is in Christ to those who are in Christ. Not the USA, ISRAEL or any other Nation.
1 Peter 2:9



Ephesians 6:24

Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity. Amen.

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