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We must be careful not to violate love in the name of love, as I believe some (especially in "discernment" type ministries) are in the habit of doing.



If I understand you correctly, Todd, you're basically saying that you're not against people publicly exposing a false teacher or doctrine... so long as it is done in love and according to scripture?

I think you're correc that some discernment ministries may come across unloving. I think the main place where Satan snares them (dare I say "us"... ) is in the area of pride. There can be a lot of pride in being right.

But having said that, the definition of love is very loose these days. To some, we're supposed to be all syrupy and tears and hugs... to others, love is tough. I think it's somewhere in between, but not leaning toward the syrupy. Motivation is the key. Our motive should be 1) to help people understand sound doctrine, and be aware of the false, and 2) to restore the false teacher to sound doctrine.

I would love it if Robert Tilton would repent of his gross heresies. I think if he did, I still would not be able to go fishing with the guy because his personality would rub me the wrong way... but I would love to call him brother. I dont hate the man. Right now, tho, the Word of God prevents me from calling him "brother". And thats a shame. He needs to either be restored, or be saved... whichever is the case (I wont judge his salvation).

I rarely discuss Tilton... I dont feel there is any need to... if people cant discern his teachings to be false, they're in deep trouble. But I say that to illustrate that our motive should be one of restoration, salvation, healing and sound doctrine.

And yes, pride does get in the way at times.

Krispy

 2005/7/23 7:48
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"If I understand you correctly, Todd, you're basically saying that you're not against people publicly exposing a false teacher or doctrine... so long as it is done in love and according to scripture?"

It depends. I wouldn't agree with that statement outright, it's too slippery, if you know what I mean. I guess it mostly depends on what you mean by "publically." If you mean to those who God has given you authority over, then maybe. If you mean a mass communication to anyone who might feel like seeing it, no.

But again, the x-factor in this is God. We are to obey Him. But we need to be cautious that we are not found in presumption. He knows our hearts and we will stand before Him one day to give an account.

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"There can be a lot of pride in being right."

There can be a lot of pride in one thinking he is right.

 2005/7/23 13:18Profile





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