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 Joe Biden President by the Sovereign Will of God - Dr. Michael Brown

docs: Through my own grappling, frustration, anger, and prayer, I have finally come to peace about the results of the recent presidential election. It all came to a turning point this morning in church through a message centering around taking up the sword or embracing the cup of suffering. Suffering under and with Christ always can ultimately bring more glory than the sword. Many want the glory without any suffering. God also showed me personally that not purposefully or consciously, I, and maybe portions of the church, have been living for a long while under a sense of ENTITLEMENT. Part of that has been the result of living as an American and never really experiencing any want in my life. Everything I always needed and wanted has always been there. And it has been partly because the issue and reality of true suffering has erroneously eliminated. to some degree from the preaching and teaching of many parts of the American church. Withiut knowing it, we have come to feel ENTITLED. But whatever, I need not preach to anyone because this is what is going on in me personally. But yet I might add, in spite of all the suspicious prophecies that have and are saying otherwise, if President Trump is not to serve another four year term then we need to embrace it and get used to it. God know exactly what He is about.

Blessings to you. Be at peace. Be at peace. Be at peace.

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On November 9, 2016, I wrote an article titled, “Donald Trump, President of the United States by the Sovereign Intervention of God,” stating, “I believe Trump has been elected president by divine intervention.” I can now say the same thing about Joe Biden. It is hard to explain him being president without intervention from above, be it as an act of divine blessing or an act of divine judgment.

There are some people, of course, who believe that everything happens by the will of God, which means that whoever wins the presidency wins by God’s express will.

Yet, as I suggested four years ago, “there are times when there are so many odds against something happening, when it so greatly defies logic, that it is easier to recognize God’s involvement.”

I believe that was the case in 2016, and I believe that is the case today.

Simply stated, without the unique events of 2020, it is very unlikely that Joe Biden would be president today. And that’s why I say that Joe Biden is President of the United Stated by the sovereign will of God.

Just think back to the beginning of 2020. It looked as if President Trump would cruise to a victory over whichever Democratic candidate came forward.

He survived the attempt to remove him from office after being impeached, probably strengthening his base in the process. The economy was humming. We were not caught up in any international or even national crises (other than the political divide). Things were looking good.

Then the pandemic came, crippling the economy and shaking the nation with thousands of deaths and endless lockdowns.

Then there was the death of George Floyd, followed by protests and riots across the country and national tensions rising again. And to the extent the left could paint Trump as a white racist, to that extent he was painted as a big part of the problem. “We must get rid of this evil man!”

As for the rise of Biden, before the South Carolina primaries, he looked dead in the water. AP News even ran a headline February 11, 2020, stating, “Joe Biden looks to South Carolina to resurrect his campaign.”

Then, quite out of the blue, Biden was back in the race, then the frontrunner, then the winner. It’s almost as if someone in his party pushed a button and said, “Bernie Sanders is too radical, so we’ll have to switch things around.” And it was done.

As for the issue of voter fraud, there are clearheaded, well-informed conservatives who are sure there is nothing to the charge of massive voter fraud, and there are clearheaded, well-informed conservatives who hold to the opposite view.

For argument’s sake, though, let’s just say that massive voter fraud did take place. How could I possibly point to divine sovereignty if Biden was fraudulently elected? Wouldn’t this make God complicit in fraud?

Actually, in my view, that’s one of the things that would argue in favor of divine action rather than against it. In other words, if the only way Biden could be elected was by massive fraud and yet God did not cause the fraud to be revealed in a categorical and undeniable way, then He chose to allow it to happen.

The obvious retort is, “But all kinds of terrible, evil things happen every day, including child abuse and rape and murder and torture. Unless you’re a staunch Calvinist who somehow believes God ordains all this, you would simply have to say that the Lord allows evil things to take place because He has given us free will. In the same say, He allowed the election to be stolen just like He allowed the Holocaust and other evil things to happen.”

But that’s why I differ, for at least two reasons.

First, there was unprecedented prayer for the election, beginning months before November 3 and continuing right until Biden’s inauguration. Surely, if massive fraud was actually there, it would have been easy for God to expose it in a clear and timely way. Yet if the election was, in fact,
stolen, no smoking gun ever came to light, despite the massive amount of prayer. (Of course, others would simply say there was no fraud and therefore nothing to expose.)

Second, if God had indeed chosen Trump for specific divine purposes for America, with all the prayer and fasting for this election, and with his base so mobilized, there’s no way he could have been stopped from serving his second term. Certainly the devil is not so powerful as to thwart the Lord’s express will when He sets His mind to act.

That’s why I attribute Joe Biden’s election to divine sovereignty.

But that doesn’t mean his presidency will bring blessing to our nation. To the contrary, it could bring judgment.

It could bring a loss of freedoms (not necessarily because that is his personal agenda but rather because of the larger trajectory of the Democratic Party and the radical left). It could more deeply enshrine Roe v. Wade and make transgender rights the new Civil Rights issue of our day.

A Biden presidency could hurt our economy. Or open the doors to a flood of illegal immigrants. Or allow for the packing of the Supreme Court or the abolishing of the electoral college or the rise of socialism.

It could threaten Israel’s security and undermine persecuted minorities in other parts of the world.

Or none of those things could happen and Joe Biden (and even Kamala Harris) could operate under divine restraint, with things shifting back politically in the 2022 and 2024 elections. Or they could experience radical spiritual conversions and point the nation to righteousness.

Then again, even if the radical left pushed America in a very bad direction, that could be the very thing that could bring revival to the church and then awakening to the society.

None of this is set in stone.

The day Trump was elected, I wrote, “If Trump, indeed, is a divine wrecking ball, then he could do as much harm as good, and to the extent that he is appealing to the fears and frustrations and anger of a nation, he is channeling some potentially dangerous emotions.”

Those were some of the dangerous emotions that erupted in DC on January 6th.

I added, “if Trump indeed is president by divine intervention, we should pray for divine restraint on his life as well, lest this divine wrecking ball wreak havoc on the nation while tearing down what is wrong. May he be a divinely guided wrecking ball!”

How much more, then, should we also pray for divine restraint for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris?

I would encourage you, then to: 1) make a list of everything you fear could go wrong under the Biden-Harris leadership and pray for the opposite; 2) pray daily that the Lord would restrain those whose vision would destroy our nation; 3) pray that Biden and Harris would have life-changing encounters with the Lord; 4) if the Biden presidency is meant as divine chastisement, pray that we would understand where we need to repent so that mercy may be poured out; and 5) pray that, no matter what happens, Jesus would be glorified and His kingdom advanced on the earth.

To conclude, let us step back and worship God. Let us seek God earnestly and daily. And let us act as His agents in this world without fear or compromise. The times are critical, indeed.

(Dr. Michael Brown)


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 Re: Joe Biden President by the Sovereign Will of God - Dr. Michael Brown

From our church today, docs, it just went so well with your thoughts, IMO

https://youtu.be/4ZO7_03htWI

Go to 26:45 for the sermon.


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 Re: Joe Biden President by the Sovereign Will of God - Dr. Michael Brown

Hi Docs
Any well informed conservative who says that Fraud did not win this election are Liars and Greater Liars than the democrats and have an agenda.
Anyone with an once of discernment can see the evil behind the democrats .Joe Biden did not legally win this election and our prayer for him is that the voter fraud gets exposed and that this evil is sent packing.
The evidence is there ,its documented and was given to legislatures all over the country.Hours and Hours of it.Given under avadavit and by many experts .
If their is no fraud why
1.Did they kick out observers
2 Put Carboard over windows to stop seeing the counts
3 Why did the counts stop on Election night and in miracle form hundreds of thousands of votes start flooding in.
4 Why was their a cover up and every effort to do a forensic audit scuppered by judges,by election boards and by governors
5 Why were the polls on every main stream platform wrong in favour of Joe Biden
6 Why when discovered that all mistaken votes went from biden to trump .
7 Why were constitutional rules changed days prior to the election to unconstitional rules.
8 Why were suitcases of ballots being processed from under tables when everyone was sent home

This is not to mention the role the media played in covering up Hunter Bidens Laptop,Joe Bidens cognative problems and manipulating the Presidential debates.

This was an organised criminal election and anyone that says otherwise in my opinion is one of the following Liar,uniformed,undecerning or just dont care,
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"As for the issue of voter fraud, there are clearheaded, well-informed conservatives who are sure there is nothing to the charge of massive voter fraud, and there are clearheaded, well-informed conservatives who hold to the opposite view."

 2021/1/24 16:39Profile
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 Re: Joe Biden President by the Sovereign Will of God - Dr. Michael Brown

As most Christians were praying that Donald Trump would serve as our president another 4 years, and then to our surprise Joe Biden is elected with a Democratic majority in the House and Senate, it would appear that God is indifferent to the prayers of His people.

What we must see is that God’s agenda is much different from that of the average American Christian. What profit would it have been if Trump would have won the election and then the Church in America went back to sleep. Most of the Church has never woke up, neither has she sought the Lord’s face.

As much as God want’s to bless America, His first priority is the building of the Body of Christ. God has said that we are to seek first the Kingdom.

So now the nation will go into decline. We will be giving into the hands of a Socialist administration, and China will rule over us. The Church in America will be persecuted.

It will look like we are finished as a nation. But this chastisement and the purging by fire will be used by the Lord to bring about true repentance, and the Church will rise up, revival will come, and there will be a mighty out pouring of the Holy Spirit as houses of prayer will be established. America will be saved as we fulfill the Great commission, the gospel of the Kingdom will be preached by the anointing of the Holy Spirit, and God will confirm His Word with signs and wonders.


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 Re: Joe Biden President by the Sovereign Will of God - Dr. Michael Brown

I wonder of Dr B would also (using this logic) conclude that the Pharisees and Sadducees were in power by Gods sovereign will ....🤔

They welded a certain geopolitical authority due to their influence on the Jewish populace as such were a powerful lobbyist group (per scripture) with the local Roman government. That wasn’t the first time a deal had been struck betwixt the two creating a corrupt establishment fundamental to the acting relationship of government and governed.
This corruption allowed for evil (in the sight of God) to be done under the guise of “goodness” essentially codifying sin as part of worship-

“As it was, so shall it be...”
“There is nothing new under the sun”

The self same system has been built and is presently being brought to life...

The LORD in His sovereignty, brought forth Jesus when the conditions were met to destroy the power of that system (sin/death) thru His testimony and the Lord said He’d come again when the conditions are met for a harvest and a war against all unrighteousness.

(for me) to charge the Lord with creating a system of corruption only to then require of Himself the highest possible price (His only begotten Son) in order to rectify said situation is foreign to my knowing of Him and tho I understand that others find “it” in their rendering of scripture, I simply cannot make that confession in faith. Therefore I cannot agree with brother Michael on this. While the scriptures do allow for “He who lets to be removed”, that would not be the same as a Sovereign proactive movement but rather a passive removal of a restraining force much like the Lord removing Lot from Sodom-


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Hi Abideinhim,
I agree with alot you are saying I just dont agree with your conclusions.
God is not glorified in this outcome and also what does it say of God that raises up a leader like Donald Trump who has done his bidding (whether the Christian hypocrites didnt like the way he talked or not) and then he drops him like an old tin hat.Heaven forbid he treats his bidder like that.
Many ,many countries have had much persecution but it didnt bring revival!
What is true repentance?is another question and why have you not repented truly?or all the SI members why have they not repented truly?There are no houses of prayer under communism,none.Also look at Israel under King David,why cant the USAs future resemble Israel under David rather than a USA under a liberal socialist state which kills babies.
Why cant the USA be Nineveh?as regards its future.
As I have said before if persecution is so great ,SI members should get a ticket to South Korea and then travel across the border into North Korea and let the rest of us know how that goes for you..

The Gospel of the Kingdom is different than the Gospel of Jesus Christ in this way.The Gospel of the Kingdom is what John The Baptist Preached which is that "Jesus is coming, back to Judge right away or his winnowing fork is in his hand " and this is the message that brings an end time harvest .The Gospel of the Kingdom is only effective fully when its preached right before when Jesus actually comes,
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"So now the nation will go into decline. We will be giving into the hands of a Socialist administration, and China will rule over us. The Church in America will be persecuted."

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 Re: Tim

Tim, thank you for this sermon, in my opinion, the Pastor was spot on. I'm grateful to hear a Pastor speak about the five fold ministry, you never hear one speak of this, and I don't understand why.


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As with Tim, you make a good point MrBillPro.


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Hi
The only way Joe Biden is president by the souvereign will of God is the same way Adolf Hitler in the past and The Anti Christ will become a leader in the future.
All three leaders have at least one thing in common they all have an ANTI CHRIST spirit powering them,
How you pray for Hitler or The Anti Christ is another question ....
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We are blessed to get this level of teaching. He’s a man like all others but loving in his approach to truth. Feel free to watch many more if his sermons over the past 6 months or so.


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