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drifter Member
Joined: 2005/6/6 Posts: 1025 Campbell River, B.C.
| Re: | | So at Pentecost when Peter said "But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel, 'And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh'", was he saying that the last days were only then and that period is now over?
Do you believe Jesus has already returned in the clouds physically and set foot on the Mount of Olives? _________________ Nigel Holland
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2019/3/10 17:47 | Profile |
TMK Member
Joined: 2012/2/8 Posts: 6650 NC, USA
| Re: | | No I don’t believe Jesus has returned yet physically- ie I don’t believe the 2nd coming has happened yet.
But yes, I do believe that when the apostles used words like “soon” etc they meant what they said. _________________ Todd
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2019/3/10 19:34 | Profile |
drifter Member
Joined: 2005/6/6 Posts: 1025 Campbell River, B.C.
| Re: | | When do you think Jesus is coming back and what are the signs that His return is imminent? _________________ Nigel Holland
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2019/3/10 19:52 | Profile |
docs Member
Joined: 2006/9/16 Posts: 2753
| Re: | | What if Revelation was written around 95 A.D. as many believe? It would make the events of 70 A.D. as impossible to have been the fulfillment of Matthew 24 since it would have been written 25 years or so after the destruction of Jerusalem.
The foundation of no personal Antichrist has its origins in replacement theology. If Israel's continuing relevance is replaced then a personal AC can be handily replaced. If you admit there is a personal AC then you have to admit he will turn his wrath on the Jewish people and that would involve Israel and in replacement theology that has to be avoided at all costs.
In II Thess 2:4 Paul is quoting almost exactly from Daniel 11:36 regarding one who exalts himself above every god. It's a person he is speaking of.
_________________ David Winter
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2019/3/11 6:58 | Profile |
savannah Member
Joined: 2008/10/30 Posts: 2265
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"What if Revelation was written around 95 A.D. as many believe?"
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What if Revelation was written before 70 A.D. as many believe?
The book, "Before Jerusalem Fell" is the most exhaustive book on the subject.
I myself do concede to the evidence he brings to bear from his research. If any here on SI had time to read this colossal work of written documentation, my guess is that they'd come to the same conclusion.
Carry on...
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2019/3/11 9:40 | Profile |
TMK Member
Joined: 2012/2/8 Posts: 6650 NC, USA
| Re: | | //When do you think Jesus is coming back and what are the signs that His return is imminent?//
I certainly have no idea. If, by imminent, you mean “soon” then by biblical precedent it could be more than 2000 years from now. _________________ Todd
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2019/3/11 12:47 | Profile |
docs Member
Joined: 2006/9/16 Posts: 2753
| Re: | | A Jewish presence in Palestine has to be a reality before the end time scenario takes place. We are among the first generations in almost two thousand years to see this presence. So things are not as they always have been since Christ left. It's absurd to call this presence just a accident of history. It happened against all impossible odds. The problem is that many of their own and many Christians believe they are home free and involitable with no more major trouble ahead just because they have been allowed to return to the land. _________________ David Winter
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2019/3/11 13:51 | Profile |
TMK Member
Joined: 2012/2/8 Posts: 6650 NC, USA
| Re: | | We shall see, or maybe not! Perhaps our great great great grandchildren will see. _________________ Todd
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2019/3/11 14:48 | Profile |
drifter Member
Joined: 2005/6/6 Posts: 1025 Campbell River, B.C.
| Re: | | What are the signs then? _________________ Nigel Holland
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2019/3/11 15:10 | Profile |
TMK Member
Joined: 2012/2/8 Posts: 6650 NC, USA
| Re: | | For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 _________________ Todd
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2019/3/11 18:26 | Profile |