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So then the question. Why put something indecipherable in scripture if God means for all of His word to be understood? Or does God mean for all of his word to be understood?

Bro Blaine

 2017/1/20 10:34
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RE : /// If the apocalyptic genre of Hebrew literature is presented in images and symbols in places does that automatically mean it was meant to forever remain a riddle as to its proper meaning?///

I am not aware of anyone that had things figured out correctly before Jesus came the first time ? Though we see now countless Scriptures pointed to it.


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Bear wrote:
"So then the question. Why put something indecipherable in scripture if God means for all of His word to be understood? Or does God mean for all of his word to be understood?"

Maybe John's original audience DID understand it. Maybe they knew what each piece of imagery was referring to.


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/I am not aware of anyone that had things figured out correctly before Jesus came the first time ? Though we see now countless Scriptures pointed to it./

So is that a approval of the habit of just walking away from eschatology content with the view that it will never be understood? That may not be your view but it's very common among today's church.

The early church was not allegorical in their eschatology. That's a good clue for me as to which direction to lean. They may not have understood things corectly before Jesus came but He filled in many details as well as the writers of the epistles and John of Revelation. Much of the eschatology during church history was based on the belief that since Israel was banished and in exile without the possibility of ever returning then the passages regarding Israel must be allegorical and are best spiritualized.

"And those who have insight among the peoplpe wil lgive understanding to the many." (Daniel 11:33)

This latter day passage speaks of believers having insight and giving this understanding to others during this time. It's a far cry of a picture than a Church groping along with no real understanding of what is occuring. How can they share their insight and understanding with others if they have no understanding of their own to begin with?








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/// Maybe John's original audience DID understand it. Maybe they knew what each piece of imagery was referring to.///

So the Book of Revelation was only meant to be understood by the first century readers? But not to be understood by us?

Then another question. Does God write a book for one generation to understand but then another generation to not understand it later?

Honestly that logic would make no sense.

Bro Blaine

 2017/1/20 11:24
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Epistles were actual letters to actual people or churches with actual problems and concerns.

Of course there are inspired truths that apply to us today. But there are also personal aspects to these letters.

When we read the epistles we are literally reading someone else's mail.


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