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 New Aborted Fetal Cell Line Emerges for Vaccine Production

New Aborted Fetal Cell Line Emerges for Vaccine Production :

Spare Parts(Largo) Due to dwindling capacity for existing aborted fetal cell lines to self-replicate, scientists in China have developed a new aborted fetal cell line, WALVAX 2 that will be used for viral vaccine production. The existing cell lines, MRC-5 and WI-38 are currently used in MMR, Varicella, Hepatitis-A, Shingles, some rabies and some polio vaccines.

WALVAX 2 is taken from the lung tissue of a 3 month gestation female who was ultimately selected from among 9 aborted babies. The scientists noted how they followed specific guidelines to mimic WI-38 and MRC-5 in selecting the aborted babies, ranging from 2-4 months gestation. They further noted how they induced labor using a “water bag” abortion to shorten the delivery time and prevent the death of the fetus to ensure live intact organs which were immediately sent to the labs for cell preparation.

According to the studies published earlier this year in the NIH Pub Med, scientists noted that Walvax-2 cells replicated more rapidly than MRC-5 cells, attained greater population doubling and performed better or equal to the existing cell lines for culturing viruses.

In 1964 Leonard Hayflick introduced what is known as the “Hayflick limit” – how all normal cells have a finite lifespan and limited capacity to replicate before going into senescence and eventually, become unstable and form tumors. (L. Hayflick, The Limited In Vitro Lifetime of Human Diploid Cell Strains, Experimental Cell Research, Vol 37, 1964) Attempts to immortalize these cells to extend their lifespan have likewise introduced problems with tumor formations, as in aborted fetal cell line PER C6, introduced into the US in 2001.

Such seems to be the case with the introduction of WALVAX 2 to replace Hayflick’s WI-38 and Medical Research Council’s MRC-5. But instead of choosing from several WHO and FDA approved moral cell line to replace them, they are using a new aborted fetal source.

“This is exactly what we have been saying for years,” stated Debi Vinnedge, Executive Director for Children of God for Life an organization that has been monitoring the use of aborted fetal materials in vaccines and other consumer products. “The pharmaceutical industry is not going to change their use of aborted fetal cells when they have tacit approval from our moral and medical leaders.”

For decades both the pharmaceutical companies and even some ethicists have insisted that the abortions to produce the cell lines used in vaccines were not done with that intention, that it was only a couple of abortions from the past and that no further abortions would be needed “now or in the future” to produce vaccines.

“This may be the biggest lie ever told to the American public and the world at large,” said Mrs. Vinnedge. “Not only have there been hundreds of abortions directly involved with vaccine research – specifically for that purpose where they altered abortion methods to obtain intact fetal organs , but we are now seeing more and more abortions for fetal research and new cell lines emerging for viral vaccine cultivation.”

While Children of God for Life has been trying to expose these truths for the past 15 years , those warnings are now ringing startling accurate as evidenced with the recent Planned Parenthood videos that have emerged through the Center for Medical Progress, (CMP) showing how live, fully intact fetuses have been harvested for aborted fetal research.

And while Planned Parenthood has tried to claim the videos are doctored and they have done nothing wrong, in reality the facts supporting the CMP evidence is not only damning it has been fully documented in numerous science publications on vaccine research for the past 85 years.

With concern rising, some have gone so far as to patently state that the cells used are really only “descendant ” or “daughter” cells that are actually no longer a part of the original aborted fetus. Vinnedge is quick to point out that this too is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to placate concerned parents.

“Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Biology 101 knows that the cells from a human being do not morph into something different over time, ” she stated. “Further, from FDA safety standards, no human diploid cell line could be used for vaccine production on an ongoing basis if the cells somehow transformed or the DNA from that original aborted child was not fully and genetically intact.”

“But once those cells reach their finite capacity for replication, they will eventually become unfit for vaccine production and another cell line will be needed.

“Unfortunately, their selected of replacement using a new aborted fetal source is not good news for concerned parents, physicians and pro-life leaders,” she added.

https://cogforlife.org/2015/09/09/new-aborted-fetal-cell-line-emerges-for-vaccine-production/#more-2726

 2016/9/15 11:36Profile
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 Re: New Aborted Fetal Cell Line Emerges for Vaccine Production

PP-

I think we can all agree that abortion is wrong and murderous so that is not the issue here.

It was not 100% clear to me that the women had these abortions for the sole purpose of donating the fetus for research (eg, they were paid) versus being women who were going to have an abortion regardless who volunteered to donate for the research.

I was wondering if you had further insight on this.

I am trying to determine if it is a distinction that makes a difference. If the latter is the true case, it would be more akin to the family of a murder victim donating his organs for transplant. The murder was wrong and heinous, but that should not preclude the use of the organs to save other lives.

If it is the former case, it would be akin to agreeing to the murder of someone for the purpose of obtaining their organs.


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 2016/9/15 11:58Profile
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RE : ///It was not 100% clear to me that the women had these abortions for the sole purpose of donating the fetus for research (eg, they were paid) versus being women who were going to have an abortion regardless who volunteered to donate for the research.///

I do not believe they where saying that people are having : "abortions for the sole purpose of donating them for research".

This is what was wrote :

For decades both the pharmaceutical companies and even some ethicists have insisted that the abortions to produce the cell lines used in vaccines were not done with that intention, that it was only a couple of abortions from the past and that no further abortions would be needed “now or in the future” to produce vaccines.

“This may be the biggest lie ever told to the American public and the world at large,” said Mrs. Vinnedge. “Not only have there been hundreds of abortions directly involved with vaccine research – specifically for that purpose where they altered abortion methods to obtain intact fetal organs , but we are now seeing more and more abortions for fetal research and new cell lines emerging for viral vaccine cultivation.”

 2016/9/15 12:09Profile
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Thanks PP.


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 2016/9/15 12:37Profile
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What I believe they are implying is that : standard abortion practices where altered and specifically selected for the purpose of using them for the creation of "WALVAX 2 that will be used for viral vaccine production"

"WALVAX 2 is taken from the lung tissue of a 3 month gestation female who was ultimately selected from among 9 aborted babies. The scientists noted how they followed specific guidelines to mimic WI-38 and MRC-5 in selecting the aborted babies, ranging from 2-4 months gestation. They further noted how they induced labor using a “water bag” abortion to shorten the delivery time and prevent the death of the fetus to ensure live intact organs which were immediately sent to the labs for cell preparation."

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 2016/9/15 12:48Profile









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This looks like one of those topics that is often controversial in the world, and unprofitable except to expose that which deceives the whole world (the beast)
as Martin Luther,
Charles Chiniquoy,
Lorraine Day,
Keith Green,
and David Wilkerson all joyously broadcast and proclaimed TRUTH IN JESUS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! (exposing the darkness, aiming at freedom from the lies of anti-christ religion, government, and pharmacy )




--------- here's a quik online search : easy to search for yourself and get more specific results ... or broader results as needed/ if wanted....

--------- there's thousands of others available since around 1900 showing that all vaccines are wrong and cause seizures, autism, sids deaths, lower IQ (across the board - 10 to 20 points lower) , and many many many other health problems without any substantial nor worthwhile benefit from the same shots.

Dr. Andrew Moulden: Every Vaccine Produces Harm
healthimpactnews.com/.../dr-andrew-moulden-every-vaccine-produces-h...
Dec 29, 2014 - When society turns toward this human value, then we would all be working together for ..... Primary Mechanisms in Vaccines that Cause Harm.


Doctors speak out: Vaccines don't work, but do cause brain damage ...
vaccine-injury.info/
Infants vaccinated according to "the schedule" can receive 13 vaccines all at once at ... Dr David Davis: Vaccines and Toxins Cause Autism, SIDS, Crib Death ...
Discover The Many Dangers Of Vaccines and Vaccination


www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/vaccine-dangers/
Vaccines cause anaphylactic shock, convulsions, seizures, brain swelling, ... Virtually all other invasive medical interventions occur only once someone has ... we could be doing more harm than good in mandating, or even advising, them.

 2016/9/15 16:28
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Quote: "Vaccines don't work,"

I can understand people being against vaccines especially given the article posted by PP, but the above statement is outrageously wrong.

Vaccines have all but wiped out many horrible diseases, some of which killed numerous great aunts and uncles of mine when they were children.

You can come up with a lot of (possibly) good reasons to be against vaccines but "they don't work" is not one of them.


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