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brothagary
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When i read your post brother the other thing that comes to mind ,is also the bible says they have itching ears and they heap up for them selvs ,could it be possible that this is taking place and they aare being given over to decption ,because they do not love the truth as the bible says ...

Im just saying , is it possible......

And if it maby its not good to be to dogmatic about how we all should react to prince and his congregation...

Im just saying...😳

 2016/6/5 9:13Profile
dfella
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Greg,

Thanks for sharing this wonderful teaching. This is the gospel I embraced many years ago under the teaching of a faithful servant whom we invited to teach in our home fellowship back in 1998.

In my first run through this teaching no red flags just bearing witness. I do not know any of these men who are preaching this hyper false grace and would only say and hope that God may grant them the gift of repentance.

Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I will share this with every Christian I know and have already sent this out to many in my address book.

Thank you again Brother Greg!


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David Fella

 2016/6/5 9:26Profile









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JFW said:

"There is also a danger in exposing other brothers in that when we undertake this it must be in the intent to restore them and not simply call them out for the sake of exposing the error, lest we also be found to have an evil heart."

I don't agree with this statement for two reasons:
1.
This video does not expose Joseph Prince himself, it exposes his doctrine. In the movie they use the sword of the spirit to fight an evil teaching spirit that works through not only him but also through others and tries to steal believers from Christ.
Ephesian 6:12
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
2.

 2016/6/5 9:33









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So as we are exposing the false teaching of Joseph Prince and others of the hyper-grace movement. What is the solution? Run back to the law of Moses?

Are we saying that we are saved by grace? But Sanctified by the Mosaic law? Are we saying that the Mosaic law is the rule by which we live the Christian Life?

 2016/6/5 9:50









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Matthew 18:14-17
"Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.15Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.16But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word be established.17And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican."
It is indicated in the video that before the doctrine was exposed there were personal conversations with the proponents of it.

Moreover if a doctrine is public I don't see anything wrong with examining it in public.

 2016/6/5 9:52









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Blain,
What is the solution?
Truth.
Only truth can expose false teaching.

 2016/6/5 9:57









 Re: Tozsu

Sister truth is found in Moses or truth is found in Christ?

 2016/6/5 10:06









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The father the son and the holy spirit are one god. God inspired the whole bible.

 2016/6/5 10:11
JFW
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 Re: brother Gary

Well dear brother there were several that came to mind for me as that post was typed out,...

Here's a few
Gal 6:1-2 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

James 5:19-20 My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

1 John 5:14-17
14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Hope that helps to clarify my intentions brother Gary :)


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Fletcher

 2016/6/5 10:12Profile
JFW
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 Re: sister Zsuzsanna

Dear sister,

I wasn't suggesting the video was inappropriate and if you'll reread my initial post I agreed it was a good exposé....and yes obviously false teaching and teachers should be exposed!

Having said that, many times I've observed believers get caught up in this endeavor and themselves become spotted:(
The scriptures in fact warn of this...

So when we do, (and we should) undertake such tasks, let them be in the spirit and with the ultimate aim to restore them to the fellowship of faith.
This is my understanding in what we are called to do in such matters...

Hope this helps to clarify my post:)


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Fletcher

 2016/6/5 10:19Profile





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