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Joined: 2010/1/16
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 Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

Howdy saints. I've been following this website for a long time. greatly appreciate the messages and encouragements I find here. I'm throwing out a question that maybe someone might be able to help me get a definite answer for.
I've been part of a church where I live for about six years. My family and I moved to this city and felt good about fellowshiping here.

Very close to my heart is prayer for our brothers and sisters in the persecuted church. I'm able to post a world map at our church where I monthly post prayer requests for different areas of concern re:persecution. This has been a positive. But here's the ache I have.
For over two years I've hosted a monthly prayer meeting at my home specificially for the persecuted church. Most times no-ones turned up. Now and then one or two folk have come along and our prayer time has been very good.

How long do I slog out encouraging, reminding, promoting prayer for my persecuted brethren when it seems by and large, there's no interest, sadly very little interest from our churches leadership, and the congregation in general?

I'm one of those guys who doesn't like changing churches, but maybe there's signs I'm missing saying I need to go where there's a similar passion and vision to what fuels my heart.
Or maybe I should stay where's there's no like passion to be a channel through which God can touch hearts.

I'm writing this cos I'm sitting in my living room after another prayer meeting "no show", and I have to confess I'm feeling a little discouraged

Any pearls of wisdom out there as I seek God's direction in this?

 2016/5/26 4:37Profile

 Re: Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

No church is perfect.
You need to look at the wider picture and all the activities that your church offers.
Is it a Bible based church with good preaching and a focus on mission? Are there already other prayer meetings etc.
Or are most members just "church goers " with no interest in the Gospel and other believers?

 2016/5/26 5:15


What is the Lord telling you to do? He is our Commander in Chief. Many of our assignments are difficult. Sometimes, we make our own "assignments". Did the Lord call you to do what you are doing? If so, continue until you are reassigned. If not, then you have not been doing it at His command. When the Lord has given you a word, you never have to ask man, what you should do next. Man's word cannot trump the Lord's command to you.

 2016/5/26 8:36

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Are You Ready to be Poured Out as an Offering? By Oswald Chambers

If I am being poured out as a drink offering on the sacrifice and service of your faith, I am glad and rejoice with you all. —Philippians 2:17

Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for the work of another believer—to pour out your life sacrificially for the ministry and faith of others? Or do you say, “I am not willing to be poured out right now, and I don’t want God to tell me how to serve Him. I want to choose the place of my own sacrifice. And I want to have certain people watching me and saying, ‘Well done.’ ”

It is one thing to follow God’s way of service if you are regarded as a hero, but quite another thing if the road marked out for you by God requires becoming a “doormat” under other people’s feet. God’s purpose may be to teach you to say, “I know how to be abased…” (Philippians 4:12). Are you ready to be sacrificed like that? Are you ready to be less than a mere drop in the bucket— to be so totally insignificant that no one remembers you even if they think of those you served? Are you willing to give and be poured out until you are used up and exhausted— not seeking to be ministered to, but to minister? Some saints cannot do menial work while maintaining a saintly attitude, because they feel such service is beneath their dignity.


 2016/5/26 9:23Profile

Joined: 2005/11/5
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 Re: Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

Yes, did God speak for you to go? I would continue to wait and pray. May God bless you brother and mightily for the work you are doing.

Otherwise, if you have no issues with the teachings of your place and you believe you are truly under anointed shepherds with no controversies, is fellowship also there...then i would not leave till there is confirmation.

james thorpe

 2016/5/26 9:59Profile

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 Re: Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

To me it appears that it is your personal burden to pray for the persecuted. Yes the Bible commands us to do. But that is just one part of our command. You cannot expect your burden to be the burden of the Church.

The primary Burden of the Church is to raise up disciples. Not evangelism or even mission work. But to make those who are committed to the Church as a disciple of Jesus. All other are burdens of members of Church. The individual members can be evangelists, teachers, prophets, healers etc.

Ask God to show you brothers of similar burden (prayer for persecuted), in your Church and you seek to fellowship with them. May be you going to meet them, instead of expecting them to respond to you.

According to me, a Church is symbol of Body of Christ. So the same representation of Jesus body when he lived on this earth. When Jesus asked his disciples, whether do you want to leave as well, Peter answered them saying 'You have the words of Eternal life'. So this is our need as well from any Church. As long as there are words in the word that leads you to Eternal life, we are good to stay there. Nothing else is important.

I am sure your Church will have individual prayer meet. If not then ask your Church leadership to start one, because 'His House should be a house of Prayer'. In those prayer meet, you pray for your burden which is for persecuted Church.


 2016/5/26 10:30Profile

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 Re: heart and hear

Jesus said, for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Where's your heart?
Where's there heart?

Do you hear Him?

Let your yea be yea and your nay be nay!

Pray and listen!

 2016/5/26 10:40Profile

 Re: Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

As one who strongly shares that burden, because I believe it is the Lord's burden & such is repeated in places like Hebrews 13:3 & elsewhere (& should be obvious in the scriptures in the heart, nature & character of God), I'll say this: you may have to get used to it.

I have noticed in my 17.5 years as a believer in multiple different circles/environments that getting others fired up on the scriptural principles of the New Covenant life & theology as it practically affects our daily walk/lives (a good, necessary & foundational thing, no doubt) is usually pretty easy in a real fellowship (family, relationships, walking with God, gathering together, etc.). Getting people interested in prayer can be harder. Getting people interested in evangelism tends to be even harder. In Fasting? Almost impossible at times (gets written off as "dead works" almost in many circles). And thinking about, reading about, opening our hearts on & praying for the persecuted church? For whatever reason, this seems to be the most difficult burden to get across & shared among the Body as a whole. I have a lot of my own thoughts as to contributing factors as to why some of this is, but won't go into that here lest I be understood.

I Understand that everything isn't every man's primary burden too, but it always seems to me like praying for brethren in the Body of Christ under pressure, stress, duress, & persecution they are enduring for the sake of Christ & the Gospel should come pretty easy/naturally? I know if & when the Lord sends me & my family on the field, I want people praying in earnest for us. I would especially want those praying for us who truly understand intercession & let the Lord move their hearts & spirits (not just their theological heads) in prayer by the Spirit.

I know teaching on the subject and showing (we in the west particularly have the "Greek" way of learning, assimilating info & processing it and often end up keeping things so "compartmentalized" as aetherial abstract ideas (& we all grew up on TV full of "fake reality" & so become desensitized & disconnected from reality), so visual helps in actually seeing & reading about these brethren simultaneously (video where & when we are able without compromising security) I believe can help too. This may get the "FALSE CONDEMNATION" chanting crowd out with swords ready to hack me to pieces too, but at the heart of some of it I PERSONALLY BELIEVE is self-absorbed selfishness in our comfort, ease, & "free" existence. All the Peters can put away their swords at that statement, but I say this without a moments hesitation after years of carrying the Lord's burden in this area, talking to many saints at length on it, & praying & seeking the Lord as to "why" the pervasive apathy in this area with many believers overall?

Anyways, my point is that it may not change even if you go somewhere else. Having this burden in this measure, if I ever post on SI that me & my family are movin to the Middle East to lay it all down & live among & preach to Muslims, I want you praying me/us!! 😊

God Bless!

 2016/5/26 10:47

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I did not take the time to read anybody else's posts so this may be a repeat and of no value. While home fellowships have a great deal of value I might think of having the prayer meeting at the church location you attend, people generally hate change even if it is just location change. What I would do next is open the prayer meeting up to a prayer wall with not only the persecuted saints world wide but also introduce needs closer to home. You may have to go it alone for a bit, it is hard work being the man behind the plow when as a farmer you prepare the field, but eventually the Lord will add numbers and orchestrate circumstances in peoples lives where they will join you. You may also want to erect a testimony wall of answered prayer to demonstrate the Faithfulness of God and show His response to your groups prayers. As for discouragement? That is part of our walk Brother, you must be on the right path. God Bless you. Bro DMiller


 2016/5/26 10:52Profile

Joined: 2010/1/16
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 Re: Am I In The Church Where God Wants Me To Be?

Thank you all for your comments
Encouraging corporate prayer in general is another source of angst in my life but as some of you have said, the main thing is am I doing what Jesus told me too do.
My logon name "nowhere else" comes from John 6 when Jesus asked His disciples "Do you want to leave me too" after He laid some serious stuff on the following, fast retreating masses!
I know the only path worth walking is in my Lord's footsteps even if it involves discouragement and frustration at times. So I guess I've answered my own question.
Also I've walked with Jesus long enough to not trust my own heart, and I'm not so arrogant to think every Christian must have the same burdens as me.
My greatest prayer for the western church, I'm in New Zealand, is that we would be revived with a fresh fire for God's presence and life. That His heartbeat would be our heartbeat.
That's why I'm thankful for sites such as this.
Be blessed my brothers and sisters.

 2016/5/26 15:37Profile

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