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Exactly. The Paul Washer sermon I mentioned gets to that same point. If it's besetting for years, there's some measure in is of not seeing it as exceedingly sinful as it is, & still taking pleasure in it. Not minimizing the reality of the struggle (I had it for years), but it's just the truth. One of The first step of final freedom was seeing it rightly in that way (really, down deep, in truth but revelation, not just mental assent to it).

 2016/4/6 16:37
dolfan
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None of us has the single paragraph key to deliverance. If we did, none of us would have struggled with the issue. All of us would be free from it fully today. As a red-blooded American male -- and that is not a virtue brothers -- I am not immune. I want to be but I am not.

I can tell you when I had a soul changing moment. The Scripture says that a man who commits fornication sins against his own body. I pondered on that. And it occurred to me that fornication is nothing more than a physical rejection of the God who made my body in the first place. That goes down to my eyes. When my eyes commit fornication, looking lustfully up on a woman, I am bodily rejecting the very God who made me. I am, physically, declaring that I am my own. In short, it is physical blasphemy.

I do not condemn any man who struggles here. I think all of us who are honest will say that we have, did or do. And, lest any of us should think that he stands, let all of us take heed lest we fall.

But, what I realized turns out to be a life changing truth. It is one that comes back to me time and again. I am thankful for the grace and the power of God.


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 2016/4/6 17:14Profile









 It is simply impossible for any believer to deliver himself from sin's dominion.

It is simply impossible for any believer to deliver himself from sin's dominion. That work can be accomplished only by the Holy Spirit.

This divine work is complicated by a twofold problem, however. God has to accomplish two things in us before He can deliver us from our besetting sins.

First, God has to inspire the sin-bound person to want to be free. By nature, man does not want to be delivered from his sin. He simply will not respond to a gracious mercy call. So, God has to implement a plan or device that will allow a person to see the exceeding wickedness of his sin. This person has to become sin-sick, aware of how wicked and devastating his sin is, before he will yearn for deliverance. He has to come to his wits' end, where he sees he is being ruined by sin - helpless, wretched, empty, ensnared and deceived by sin, and laden down with guilt.

Second, God has to cause the sin-bound person to see the utter futility of his own efforts to set himself free. Man remains convinced he can cut off his own chains. He thinks if he struggles hard enough or works out the correct formula, he will be able to free himself from Satan's grip. The Lord, therefore, has to bring him to a point of total surrender, where he submits his struggle completely into God's hands.

How does the Lord accomplish these two things? How does He cause the sin-bound person, first, to see his transgressions as exceedingly sinful, and, second, to give up the fight in his flesh, admitting, "I can't do it. I'm helpless to free myself from this sin. Lord, You have to do it in me"?

Scripture explains that this twofold work is accomplished in us by the Old Covenant. Indeed, we cannot fully understand or appropriate the blessing of the New Covenant until the Old Covenant has accomplished this dual work in us.

By its very design, the Old Covenant of works was intended to teach enslaved man how high and holy his heavenly Father is. The Ten Commandments, for example, give us a picture of what is known as the moral law. This is a representation of the heart and nature of God - a nature of holiness, purity, righteousness. It sets a standard so high no human can possibly reach it in his own strength.

After giving man these commandments, God then commanded him to obey His Law perfectly. In fact, anyone who failed to keep a single law was guilty of violating them all. That person might love God, be a faithful spouse and do good works, but if he had even the slightest adulterous or idolatrous thought in his heart, he would be breaking the entire covenant. God said, "Now therefore, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant,then you shall be a ... holy nation" (Exodus 19:5-6). "Obey My voice, and I will be your God, and you shall be My people" (Jeremiah 7:23).

You may wonder, "Why would God make a covenant He knew no one could keep?" Simply put, it was the only way God could bring man to the end of himself - to cause him to see the futility of relying on his own strength to be holy. This is why Paul called the Old Covenant "the ministry of death" (2Corinthians 3:7). He knew it requires of us a kind of dying. In plain language, we all must die to any attempt to establish our own righteousness, and to any thought that we can deliver ourselves from sin's strongholds.

The moral law is also meant to make man see his guilt: "By the law is the knowledge of sin... that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God" (Romans 3:20, 19). Once we see our iniquity soberly, we are silenced by its exceeding sinfulness. "Moreover the law entered that the offense might abound" (Romans 5:20). Through the revelation of the Law, our sins become offensive to us - disturbing, sickening, overwhelming.

By setting His standard of holiness so high, God was proving to man that he could never attain the Law in his own strength. Instead, He was placing man in a school - a place where he would be taught how utterly wicked and sinful he was. By graduation time, he should be a dead man - dead to any hope he might have of freeing himself from the bondage of sin.

Likewise today, as long as we have the slightest idea we can achieve holiness on our own, we are still living under the Old Covenant's ministration of death. God's whole idea behind implementing this covenant is to send us to our death.

After studying this aspect of the covenant, I wrote the following conclusion in my journal:

The Old Covenant has finished its work. It has put me on my face - empty, helpless, wounded, weak - and now it can fade away. I am fully persuaded that I cannot by human strength and will obey or please God. I have no plea of holiness. I am without strength, and I can do nothing in my own ability. My sin is too powerful, the chains too heavy. I am too wicked to free myself. I need a miracle, and I need a helper. All I can do now is cry, Abba, Father.

Which Covenant Defines Your Walk?

Let me tell you how you can know if the Old Covenant has finished its work in you, and whether or not you are ready to move into the glory of the New Covenant.

Think about this question: What is your reaction whenever you slip and fall, returning to your old habit or lust once more? Do you go to your prayer closet, fall on your face and begin wailing, "Oh, Father, I promise not to do it anymore"? Do you shout at God, asking, "Lord, where were You when I needed You? Why didn't You give me the power to resist this temptation? Where was the Holy Spirit to stop me from giving in?" Do you wallow in self-examination, trying to find some new measure of commitment to recover and move on?

If either one of the above scenarios describes your reaction to failure or sin, you are still living under the Old Covenant. Your cry probably comes directly from your flesh, not from God's Spirit in you. Your flesh feels sorry for itself because it did not accomplish the deliverance. And now it is asking for one more opportunity, begging, "Hang in there with me - try me one more time."

This is an ongoing problem with many Christians. We look to the Holy Spirit as some kind of booster shot to empower or energize our human will. We expect Him to build up our supply of grit and determination, so we can stand up to temptation the next time it comes. We cry, "Make me strong, Lord! Give me an iron will, so I can withstand all sin." But God knows this would only make our flesh stronger, enabling it to boast.

I want you to examine yourself: What has all your crying, grieving and questioning brought you? Do you now enjoy lasting freedom or do you occasionally go back to your sin? Are your times of repentance increasingly marked by more tears, louder crying and deeper despair - with no sign of deliverance from bondage?

If the Old Covenant had truly done its work in you, you would already be "dead." You would not have any tears left, any strength to cry out, any confidence in your flesh whatsoever. The truth is, most of our weeping, begging and striving comes from our continuing expectation that something good can rise up out of our human nature to offer the Lord. But that simply is never going to happen. We are always going to be too weak and frail in our flesh to produce holiness. Yes, we are commanded to be strong - but only in the power of God's might, and not our own.

Please do not misunderstand me. I emphatically believe there is such a thing as godly sorrow over sin. Such sorrow produces true repentance. And I believe there are acceptable tears that flow from the hearts of those who grieve over wounding Christ. If you have never prayed from this place of repentance, you might want to do so now.

Lord, I confess my inability to obey Your commandments. I acknowledge my utter helplessness to deliver myself from sin's dominion. In all my strivings to get free, I have failed again and again. So now I come to You as "dead" - in full surrender. I confess my need to be delivered from my sin - and I admit I cannot do it on my own.

Oh, Lord, Your Old Covenant has accomplished in me two important things. First, I know in my heart that I want to be free. I truly want You to crush sin's dominion over me. I don't want to excuse my sin anymore, and I don't want to be given over to it. My heart's desire is to be holy and blameless before You. Whatever it takes, Father, I want to be delivered. I want to live wholly dependent on Your power.

Second, I have abandoned all hope of ever getting free by my own strength. I realize my only hope of freedom from slavery rests in Your power. I come to You now by faith, Lord, casting myself into Your hands. Show me the blessings and provisions of Your New Covenant. I need a new revelation, a new arrangement. The old one has only brought me to despair.

Thank You, Lord. In Jesus' name I pray, Amen

 2016/4/6 17:28









 Re: It is simply impossible for any believer to deliver himself from sin's domin

Please listen to this sermon by David Wilkerson

BEWARE OF DOGS - David Wilkerson

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=3569&commentView=itemComments

"In the beginning of 1998, David Wilkerson began a series of in-depth teachings on the New Covenant at Times Square Church. I thought I understood the topic, having my degree in theology; however, the real revelation of it had not registered with me. In fact, it took a year and many messages on the topic before I received the illumination from the Holy Spirit.

I remember well the day the understanding came. It was November 1998, and the title of the sermon Brother Dave preached was “Beware of Dogs.” During the preaching of this message, the revelation of the completed New Covenant—which was made between the Father and the Son and excludes any effort on our part—hit me like a thunderbolt. Overwhelming joy filled my heart and both relief and release from a “works” gospel were made manifest."

Neil

 2016/4/6 17:50









 David Wilkerson - How to Overcome All Sin

David Wilkerson - How to Overcome All Sin - Entering the New Covenant | Must Watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bO7eU5YwUM

 2016/4/6 17:56
michaelanthony
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What a wonderful prayer brother Greg :)


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 2016/4/7 4:14Profile
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I want to thank all of you for taking time to comment. I deeply appreciate. I have learnt a lot from your comments. Brother Greg, narrowpath, Jimmyhudson, tuc etc. God's word contains the solution to all the problems of mankind. And Faith and Works are two sides of the same coin. One is not complete without the other. Faith without works is dead, says the Holy Ghost. The Faith chapter in Hebrew 11 is also a Works chapter.


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 2016/4/8 4:35Profile
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http://www.desiringgod.org/messages/let-us-walk-by-the-spirit

This is very helpful.

 2016/4/8 14:12Profile
yuehan
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Hi Brotheralechenu,

You might find this testimony - by Dustin Horstmann, on how God freed him from pornography - to be edifying:

Part 1: http://bit.ly/1rLt9sP

Part 2: http://bit.ly/1CztLbs

If you search Joseph Prince's website, there are also many such testimonies - e.g. freedom from addiction, lust, fear, depression, etc.

Ultimately it is about understanding and receiving Jesus' finished work on the cross, and be rooted in the new identities He has given us. Right believing leads to right living, not the other way round.

 2016/4/8 14:38Profile
Brotheralechenu
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 Re: dolfan

Great revelation you got there brother.


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 2016/4/16 17:45Profile





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