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 "You killed Jesus" taunts at Jewish students


By Evan Allen Globe Staff March 12, 2016

NEWTON — The chanting started with a rude taunt: Newton North High School students cheering for their basketball team Friday night shouted, “Where are your girls?” to the fans of Catholic Memorial School, an all-boys school.

But the response from the Catholic Memorial fans to their opponents, many of whom are Jewish, left the Newton North crowd horrified and upset: “You killed Jesus!” shouted about 50 to 75 Catholic Memorial students. “You killed Jesus!”

The Newton North students fell silent, their faces registering surprise and anger.

“I found it chilling,” said Newton Superintendent David Fleishman, who arrived at the game, which was held at Newton South High School, about 20 minutes later. Fleishman said he was immediately approached by a visibly upset parent who told him she was shaken. “In my mind, this is incredibly upsetting and troubling, and they have a lot of work to do at Catholic Memorial,” Fleishman said.

Fleishman contacted the Anti-Defamation League about the incident, and said Newton students would discuss it at school on Monday. Newton officials will also discuss the Newton fans’ use of a joking reference to male anatomy, which Fleishman acknowledged could also be offensive.

The president of Catholic Memorial issued a statement Saturday condemning the “abhorrent behavior” of the students and promising to work to end it.

“Catholic Memorial School is deeply disturbed by the behavior of a group of student spectators who made an unacceptable chant Friday night while playing Newton North High School,” said Catholic Memorial President Peter F. Folan in a statement Saturday. “Catholic Memorial School believes deeply that intolerance, of any kind, is unacceptable. We apologize for the actions of our students and we will continue to strenuously address this issue within our community.”

The statement said no further comment would be made Saturday.

As soon as the Catholic Memorial students began their chant, said Fleishman, the interim principal spoke with Catholic Memorial administrators, who put an immediate stop to it. Both Fleishman and Folan said the students were reprimanded, and each personally apologized to the principal and shook his hand. Catholic Memorial won the game, which was the Division 1 South Final.

Nate Hollenberg, senior captain of the Newton North basketball team, said he and his teammates were warming up when the chanting occurred, and he did not know what happened until his parents told him at the end of the game.

“They might not have meant it so personally, but you should think about things before you speak,” said the 18-year-old, who is Jewish. “That hurts. They’re coming at my religion, at who I am, a big part of me. That’s just not right.”

Doug Haslam, whose son is a senior on the Newton North team and who has been attending games for years, said that taunting chants — such as “sausagefest,’’ a joking reference hurled on Friday at fans of the all-boys school — are common.

But he had never heard anything like Friday night’s calls about killing Jesus.

“There’s a lot of rowdy, rambunctious, probably crude and obnoxious chants, but there’s usually a line, and students rarely cross it,” Haslam said. “When they do, there are repercussions.”

One Newton resident who attended the game and spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal said the chant sounded pre-planned, and that Catholic Memorial administrators and parents did not appear quick to try to halt it. And the president, he said, could have cleared the stands, or made an announcement condemning the chant in that moment, as the game had not started — but he did not.

One Catholic Memorial alumnus, who asked for anonymity to speak freely about the tight-knit school community, said he had never expected to hear an anti-Semitic chant from the school’s students, and that he was ashamed of their actions.

“I felt deeply embarrassed,” said the alumnus, who was not at the game.

The alumnus said the school he knew was a brotherhood, full of empathy and understanding, where students were taught to support each other, be open minded, respect other cultures and faiths.

He said he believed it was imperative for alumni to speak out about the chant. “It’s important to recognize that it’s happened, and to apologize,” he said.

Anti-Semitism has been a topic of concern in Newton recently, as three incidents of anti-Semitic graffiti were reported in recent months at F.A. Day Middle school, including an incident earlier this month in which “Burn the Jews” was scrawled on the wall of a boys’ bathroom.

Fleishman said the district does not tolerate that, either, and that the incidents were being investigated.

Friday’s chant came just one day after Cardinal Sean P. O’Malley, speaking at Temple Emanuel in Newton, called for both Catholics and Jews to “build a civilization of love.” The talk marked the 50th anniversary of Nostra Aetate, a proclamation from Pope Paul VI in 1965 that repudiated anti-Semitism and stated that Jews did not bear collective responsibility for the death of Christ.

In a statement on Saturday, the archdiocese called the chant “unacceptable,” and said the incident presented an opportunity to promote “an important learning experience” for the students.

“We stand ready to assist Catholic Memorial in providing the student body with the awareness education that is needed to ensure that there is no recurrence of these actions or attitudes,” read the statement. Catholic Memorial is an independent Catholic high school.

Robert Trestan, regional director for the Anti-Defamation League New England , said Saturday that the immediate intervention by staff was excellent, but, “now comes the hard work.”

“We’re interested in working with both schools to make sure this doesn’t become a lost opportunity,” said Trestan. “This incident is a reminder that we still have a lot of work to do, and we need to do it together.”

Robert Leikind, director of the American Jewish Committee’s New England Office, also commended Catholic Memorial administrators for their quick response, but echoed Trestan’s sentiment that more discussion is needed.

“I won’t assume that because teens chanted this, they all hate Jews,” said Leikind. “But it’s clear that the spread of these ideas can generate hatred. And so it’s important to take them seriously.”

Newton Mayor Setti Warren said he was “deeply disappointed” by the chant. The city already had planned a community discussion for April 7 on how to make Newton welcoming to all, he said, and in the wake of the chant, it was even more important.

“I would extend an invitation to all to participate,” he said. “From outside of Newton, as well.”

Members of the Catholic Memorial community would be welcome, Warren said.

Globe correspondent Karl Capen and Travis Andersen of the Globe staff contributed to this report.

David Winter

 2016/3/13 9:47Profile

 Re: "You killed Jesus" taunts at Jewish students

Wow. I'm actually reading a book right now from Joel Richardson (that among other things) details some of the history is anti-semifinal down through the ages. It is shocking to me that it was not only Roman Catholics, but established, respected, Protestant theologians like Luther & even very early on. I can't really ever read any Luther quotes/songs the same after reading the things he said concerning the Jews. His words actually did make way for the later establishing of the demonic doctrines of Hitler in "The Final Solution". Crazy & baffling to me. If someone has some great theological doctrines but then spews the satanic vitriole Luther did, I don't know how to take them as a brother based on 1 Corinthians 5, & elsewhere (he spewed the hatred & murder of an unbeliever, (not just one who held a certain theological viewpoint). That's a strong statement, but a Biblical one, as opposed to Luther's strong, unBiblical statements like:

"What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?..First, their synogauges should be set on fire, & whatever does not burn up should be covered or spread over with dirt so that none may be ever able to see a cinder or stone of it. And this ought to be done for the honor of God and of Christianity in order that God may see that we are Christians....
Secondly, their homes should likewise be broken down and destroyed. For they perpetrate the same things there that they do in their synogauges. For this reason, they ought to be put under one roof or in a stable, like gypsies, in order that they may realize that they are not masters in our land, as they boast, but miserable captives....
Thirdly, they should be deprived of their prayer books, and Talmuds in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught....
Fourthly, their rabbis must be forbidden under threat of death to teach any more....
To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may be free of this insufferable devilish burden--the Jews...Next to the to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter & galling foe than the Jew."

On YouTube, you can look up a ministry of & to messianic believing Jews called "One For Israel." They have HUNDREDS of testimonies under their various ministries of "I found Shalom", "I Met Messiah", etc. of Jews coming to Jesus. What shocked me in their words is how they felt hatred from Catholics, but even Protestant Christians & heard so many stories & warnings of such from their parents that's all their life they thought all Christians hated Jews. But these testimonies (all so different, but all culminating in the New Birth) are SO AWESOME & encouraging. I definitely encourage anyone/everyone to go check them out. I love hearing real testimonies from Jews, from former Muslims, from former Protestant false converts, from former Religious Roman Catholics, etc. I love to rejoice in the Grace of God too as all of heaven does!

Anyways, when I really look &'study the subject, I see a fresh wave of anti-semitism sweeping the earth & getting worse. We may see the prophetically declared fulfillment of Art Katz & others in the days ahead. If we do, let us have the heart of a Corrie Ten Boom family & not the "German Protestant Christians" who had created & embraced a theology which could ignore Hitler's atrocities & "just sing louder" in their services as the Jews were screaming on the way to their final End. This t hing has been around so long rearing its ugly head & in "non-sensical" ways, it has to be a satanicly inspired & demonically executed hatred/plan to "wipe Israel off the map". If God is done & there's no future restoration of Israel in which all Israel will be saved, the preterists may believe it, but the devil didn't apparently get the memo & is still wasting lots of time focused on these people.

 2016/3/13 10:25


But I also believe that while its is satanic/demonic, it also is part of God's plan (He is Soveriegn & means for good what Satan intends for evil) to push the Jews backs up against the wall & onto the floor where they will look up to their already provided Messiah & bring in that last final & thorough in gathering of Jews to God through Jesus Christ! Romans 8:28.

It all "has to cross His desk" ultimately, so it is allowed in His Soveriegnty. But I will have love, hope, & Christian love, concern & charity for the Jew if a greater holocaust comes in my lifetime. Not a theology & doxology that treats them as less than human & ignores them, or worse blames them for all the wrongs in the earth & so calling for (or at the least being content & smug with) their murderous annihilation.

 2016/3/13 11:34


"In Birthplace of Jesus, Evangelicals Gather to Reject Israel, Embrace Palestinian Cause March 9 2016 from breakingisraelnews

Evangelicals are the strongest supporters of Israel, so it is particularly disturbing when a group from within their midst aligns with the Palestinians – even going so far as to support acts of violence against Jews while accusing Israel of violent crimes. Yesterday, while the conference was at its peak, five terror attacks were perpetrated against Israelis.

This was precisely what happened this week at the fourth biennial Christ at the Checkpoint Conference in Bethlehem, in which over 300 attendees gathered from all over the world in an Evangelical-led hate-fest against Israel and the Jews.

The organization’s website states the purpose of the four-day gathering is to “challenge Evangelicals to take responsibility to help resolve the conflicts in Israel/Palestine by engaging with the teaching of Jesus on the Kingdom of God”. This claim is deceptive since there were no representatives of Israel to engage in dialogue. Israeli Messianic leaders were also notably absent. However, the conference was attended by Palestinian Authority (PA) leaders, who were free to make spurious charges against Israel unopposed.

The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) reported some of the more ridiculous claims made at the conference. Hanna Amira, chairman of the Higher Presidential Committee for Christian Affairs for the PA, accused the IDF and settlers of killing Palestinians, “in particular, the children and the young and the women,” while at the same time the Palestinians are “giving a historic example of coexistence and the rejection of violence and hatred.”

Amira’s speech was translated by Rev. Dr. Munther Isaac, a minister ordained by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Jordan and the Holy Land and the official spokesman for Christ at the Checkpoint. His translation of the outrageous claims is tacit agreement, a position many in the Evangelical movement would disagree with. Considering the wave of violence that has plagued Israel for six months, Amira’s accusation is not only slanderous but entirely absurd.

Caroline Glick, deputy managing editor of The Jerusalem Post, explained the religious motives behind the anti-Israel gathering. In her recent article in the Post about Christ at the Checkpoint, she explained it as a new development in Replacement Theology, which claims the Church replaced the Jews in the covenant with God and that Jews are now reviled by God and Man.

Glick notes that the organizers of the conference are strong proponents of Replacement Theology but with an insidious twist: they claim that Jesus was a Palestinian and the present day Jews have no historical connection to the Bible or Israel. In essence, the Palestinians replaced the Church, which replaced the Jews.

Glick brings an ironic proof of her proposal when she notes that a Jewish Jesus would be forbidden from attending the conference held in his birthplace, now under Palestinian Authority supervision. A Palestinian Jesus, on the other hand, would be welcome, though most Christians would find it difficult to imagine Jesus calling for Jewish blood.

Glick’s proposal has chilling implications. Christ at the Checkpoint attacks Israel, but this theology disputes basic elements of mainstream Evangelical Christianity, and even opposes classical Replacement Theology. At the same time, the anti-Israel group is rewriting modern history with egregious disregard for facts in a manner that should disturb even the most secular academics."

 2016/3/13 15:12



 2016/3/13 22:11


Does anyone know if they have released the videos, yet? I would like to watch each one of these sessions and report on any anti-semitism that I hear of or observe. I think others should do the same thing.

So far, I only see this video.

I hope others watch it and report anything that is objectionable and anti-christian. I have only now started to watch this one, above.

 2016/3/13 22:35



The anti-israel and anti Jewish crowd here on SI is quite small but vocal in their
hatred of the Jewish people. They cloak their antisemitic opinions in religious sounding veneer but the underlying stench is overwhelming. Luther has nothing on these individuals.such as J, S,and O When reading them you got to remember that everything they say is tainted by this demonic influence so when they mention god, jesus and holy spirit you gotta keep in mind their God hates the Jews,

 2016/3/14 8:44

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 Re: Trying to take a bit of responsibility

/The anti-israel and anti Jewish crowd here on SI is quite small but vocal in their
hatred of the Jewish people. They cloak their antisemitic opinions in religious sounding veneer but the underlying stench is overwhelming. Luther has nothing on these individuals.such as J, S,and O When reading them you got to remember that everything they say is tainted by this demonic influence so when they mention god, jesus and holy spirit you gotta keep in mind their God hates the Jews,

Doc: Maybe I'm wrong in thinking I have maybe just a wee bit of responsibility since I posted the original remarks and article but I have to disagree with the tone and spirit of your post. You are even naming people whom you don't even know yet if they were even going to post anything in this small thread. Disagreeing theologically perhaps on the Jewish issue is not the same as outright hatred for Jewish people. Please consider the tone and spirits of your remarks and consider giving it a rest please. Needlessly incendiary rhetoric only starts fires whereas respectful dialog serves us all better.


David Winter

 2016/3/14 9:34Profile


Nope, you are wrong. This replacement/supersessionism satanic twisting of God Word was directly used to enable the haters and murderers of God's people. And they are still at it They will ultimately fail because God loves the Jews. (and all those in Christ)

 2016/3/14 11:00


Docs, I agree with your comments.

I don't want to pre-assume or make judgements about people on this. I know for some they want to make it "everything" & they always look through these lens & for some they want to minimize it to nothing because such things don't fit their theological/eschatological paradigm (*pleAse save any comments about this observation being some patternstic flaw in me - it's just the truth).

Fact is, I have been shocked somewhat lately at how much influence of actual anti-semitism (hatred & prejudic against the Jewish people) exists & has existed down through the ages even among respected Protestants & even early church influencers (I thought this was just surely the Roman Catholics alone, but have been amazed how much non-catholic Christian influence on anti-semitism there has been). So I don't fault someone if they don't see it/know it. Now if they are presented with the history & choose (to protect their position/pride/current eschatolological position), then that's a different thing. That's not ignorance, but willful blindness/coldness.

All that to say, I have VERY close brethren who would lean more towards Amillenialism & Preterism (Replacement Theology- (Supercessationism), but still love them as brothers & don't think they're inheritly "anti-Semitic" at heart. So let's be careful.

And even though I lean more towards Pre-Millinealism (Post-Trib & NOT a Dispensationalist/Pre-Tribber) & Futurism,,I also clearly don't think that "unbelieving Jews" who die outside of Christ will be saved or anything like that. I'm not trying to "open that box" here, but I know from the previous posts & the historical posts it's already open, so I felt at liberty to speak about the elephant in the room.

But back to the OP, I don't care who you are or from what eschatological position you are, if you don't see/acknowledge the Anti-Semitism rising in the earth, then you are just uninformed & blissfully ignorant, or unwilling to see what is plain, simple & clear. That being said, I think (like Art Katz did & Reggie Kelly does) that God is allowing this (Islam in particular the primary hand of it like the ancient Assyrians) to bring forth an endtime eschatological climax for Israel (who didn't even exist as a nation again until 1948) with their back up against the wall & nowhere to look or turn to save them eventually. We may find out in the years ahead (at some point, not declaring a date/timeline so don't accuse me of fear-mongering or date-setting) who the real "Corrie Ten Boom's" of this generation are. And if you know/study Islamic doctrine/"eschatology", they are coming for the Jews & the Christians together ultimately.

Anyways, Israel is surrounded on every side by enemies & is getting more so, more openly, & more betrayed by her recent history allies (including the USA in the last 7+ years) all the time. If Israel "means nothing at all" to end times prophetic fulfillment, apparently the devil didn't get the same memo the preterists got. And the devil seems to understand what's coming & how than most "experts" in these areas on either side over the years. But I digress.

My main point is that we shouldn't hate or respond in lovingly/harshly to brethren who disagree with us or don't have the same amount of light from the same places. But we also shouldn't be looking for every way we can to "prove" that Israel isn't under assault from all the nations of their side of the world who "want to wipe them off the map", "have them hide behind trees & have the trees only to have the trees cry out to the Muslims to come kill the Jew behind me", etc. because it doesn't fit our eschatology. It's like people who spend all their time saying persecution is overblown & send one article showing one example of persecution being slightly overblown or something, in some futile attempt to disprove the whole thing that is obvious & that God is pre-warning His people is coming. It's like - "Really?"

Anyways, my 2 cents,
God Bless!

 2016/3/14 11:15

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