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brothagary
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 But rather expose them

…10trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. 11Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; 12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret.….


This seems to apply to those out side the church Eph. 5"11

 2016/3/2 18:20Profile
Lysa
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 Re: But rather expose them


Are you talking about unsaved outside the church?

If you are, I do not think that this chapter is talking about the unsaved but I could be wrong.

Leading up to verse 11, the Word states in verses 8-10, "for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of light is found in all that is good and right and true), and try to discern what is pleasing to the Lord."

I don't know, I think we should be concerned about exposing the unfruitful deeds of darkness in our own life, allowing the Lord to open our eyes exposing them to ourselves. "None so blind as those who will not see," so to speak.


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Lisa

 2016/3/2 21:41Profile
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 Re: But rather expose them

My Bible reads that Paul confronted Peter to his face and then wrote about the incident to the church in Galatia (Read Galatians, the whole 2nd chapter).

That's just one "Biblical" example.


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 2016/3/2 22:26Profile
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The bottom line is (to me) is that it's all about motive. Walk in the fear of God, be led by the Spirit, have the mind of Christ, love God with your whole being, and your neighbor as yourself, and if God has wriiten His law upon your heart then walk in the Light as He is in the Light.


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 2016/3/2 22:31Profile
brothagary
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Yes Lisa , I think with out doubt this is talking about the unsaved and the dangerous life that the theses and the deceives live ,,,rather then participate in there evil live, expose it and warn others ,scince we our selfs have been led out ....., we should be concerned about out own hearts ,and ask God to try our hearts and thank god that he has given us exlent preaches who convict us when or if we stray ,extra,,,,,,,,

But to be honest with the above verse ,is why I posted it ,,,,it says exposes them .......,,,,


The reason we no it is talking about the unsaved ,is because of those early verses it speaks of being in the darkness ,,,

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Yes, it says "expose them" (not expose yourself, though openess about your own sin is a good thing, that's not what this verse is speaking on in context).

Both Great thoughts/comments YeshuaBoy. I agree whole heartedly!

 2016/3/3 1:26
Lysa
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I wish you used spell-check brother gary!

The unsaved doesn't read the Bible, the Bible is for God's children. I guess it really depends on how one believes if once a person gets saved, they are perfect and don't sin.

Do you not think that saved men and women "participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness?" How many Christian men (and women) love God and yet still watch porn and have a lust problem? This is just one example of "participating in the unfruitful deeds of darkness."


And jeffmar, my comment about being concerned about exposing ourselves was along the lines of 'getting the moat out of our own eye before trying to get the toothpick out of our brothers."


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 2016/3/3 6:42Profile
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Yea me and blain need a better spell check ,,,pray for us ..

I'm not getting the point your making Lisa ...

 2016/3/3 7:42Profile
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6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7Therefore do not be partakers with them;, ,, Us ,,, and partakers with them

We were at one time children of wrath just as the others ,,,,,,,the contrast to these terms uses by Paul . Children of wrath ,and sons of disobedience is children of God ,,,,John makes it clear in his letters that those that practice sin are not of God ,but those that sin are of the devil.....

Eph 5"5.
5For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

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Lysa, you are right on. Eph 5 is warning the church about those who call themselves Christians and participate in the unfruitful works of darkness.

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

And many are deceived today and walking in a false security because they have been taught that if you sin just ask God for forgiveness and He will forgive you because He really did not mean that we can actually be overcomers, sin not and walk in holiness.

That is why there is so much sin tolerated in the Church. Tolerated by false teaching of grace and forgiveness and salvation.

 2016/3/3 10:27





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