Sorry for all the stupid typos too. Donald Trump probably does know what a basketball is but that's not what I was saying. It should've said he doesn't even understand what the gospel of Jesus Christ is

So, we can rail against leaders who "claim" to be Christians?

I have seen some venomous words from the Church directed towards some of these people that claim to be Christians.

Must be people who "claim to be Christian" railing against others who "claim to be Christian", for neither one are speaking words "seasoned with grace".

Col 4:5-6 Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

Election year is always such a big test for the "Church in the World."

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=56329&forum=45

Like the last thread you misdirected your comments, I'm not talking about what "some people" have said. I'm talking about David Ravenhill said in the OP & the comments I have added. Stating facts & quoting someone is different than "railing on someone"

Jeff,

I wonder what you might think after you read this. Take your time, you don't have to do it today.

The Church in the World
http://www.searchingtogether.org/articles/frazier/cworld.htm

Some are troubled that some of us are calling into question the Christianity of Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. To say that Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton are not believers in Christ appears to be railing against them.

Would this be more acceptable. Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump claim to be Christians. But their walk must be called into question because of things they have said. And because of their life. Their speech and life do not reflect one who follows Christ.

Would the above be acceptable? If not. Then respectfully I ask why?

Blaine

Julius,
I commented on it in the other thread.

Bear,
Good points & well said.

i heard a clip on the radio today of Cruz saying "dammit" at some point during yesterdays proceedings. sounds like he meant it too.

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Todd

TMK,
Not sure what your point was, & Don't take this the wrong way, but I have said that too before (& should not have) even as a believer. I haven't however supported the mass extinction of unborn babies by the millions. And I understand the Gospel, have been born again, have a Biblical testimony, etc.

No point- just throwing it out there. I've already said that I see no reason why being an evangelical is a prerequisite to a person being a president, so he can swear up a storm if he wishes. There are certain things (to me) they must be, but Christian is not an absolute requirement. Would it be nice? Of course.

on a humorous note, a friend said that he thought that Cruz looked like grandpa Munster. That cracked me up-- now every time I see him I can't stop picturing him made up like that.

P.S. I personally don't have anything against Cruz. I believe he is a Christian. But I don't think he has a snowball's chance of beating Hillary. And we must not have Hillary.

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Todd