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Tim your words are wise. Indeed let us pray for the Abidinis. For the effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

Blaine

 2016/1/28 16:41
Oracio
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If these allegations by his wife of porn addiction and abuse are untrue, where is Saeed's denial and denunciation of those allegations? If they are true, where is his repentant confession? It just seems too odd and unlikely that Saeed's wife would just make these things up for no reason.


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 2016/1/28 18:44Profile









 Re: Frankkin Graham Post on Facebook

Brothers and sisters,

Franklin Graham has been instrumental in the lives of both Nagneh and Saeed Abedini. If you do Facebook check out his facebook post regarding the sadness in the Abidini family. His counsel is very wise. Basically he is calling that we pray for this family. And pray that their marriage will be healed and restored.

Many saints around the world prayed for the release of this brother. The prayer call I moderate, Persecution Watch, invested 24 hours of straight prayer crying out for this brother's release. We all rejoiced when we saw the release of our dear brother. Now only to have to pray fervently for the healing and restoration of his marriage.

My brothers and sisters I ask that you please keep the Abidini family in your prayers. Pray that God will restore their marriage. Pray that Satan will not have the victory. But that the risen Christ will be pre-eminent in this situation.

I do not believe that God has answered our prayers to bring Saeed out of prison only to see his marriage destroyed. So please join me in prayer as we lift you up the Abidini family. And pray for the restoration and healing of their marriage.

Your brother in Christ,

Blaine

 2016/1/28 18:49
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We cannot simply blindly follow, endorse or admire someone when there are these types of serious allegations, no matter what kind of persecution they suffer. This reminds me of that Oneness Pentecostal lady who refused to give gay marriage licenses. So many Christians were jumping on her bandwagon and embracing her as a sister without using any discernment regarding her beliefs. Yet she ended up meeting with the Pope and shedding tears of awe because of it. There seems to be something in human nature that is easily prone to idolize individuals and place them on certain pedestals that belong only to God.


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 2016/1/28 18:51Profile









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Oracio I feel you are making judgments about a situation you do not have the facts on. Check out the Franklin Graham post on Facebook. I think our brother has a wise perspective regarding the Abidinis. Basically his call is to pray for the family. I agree with that call.

Blaine


 2016/1/28 18:57









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I'm not making judgments, but just an observation. In the Yahoo article, this does not sound like the enemy.

""I love my husband, but as some might understand, there are times when love must stop enabling something that has become a growing cancer," she wrote.

Naghmeh Abedini on Facebook apologized to her followers for not disclosing the abuse sooner.

"I sincerely had hoped that this horrible situation Saeed has had to go through would bring about the spiritual change needed in both of us to bring healing to our marriage," she said. "Tragically, the opposite has occurred."

In an interview at her parent’s home in Boise last week, Naghmeh Abedini had told Reuters that rebuilding their marriage after her husband's imprisonment would take time.""

She even alludes to rebuilding the marriage, although she makes the point that she is tired of being an "enabler".

This whole thing reminds me of Tom White and Voice of the Martyrs which to this day is so tragic.

VOM is another organization that spent a lot of money that was donated to them for an "opulent" headquarters.
http://www.wurmbrandmichael.com/

From Michael:
"Just take a moment and look at this miserable refugee camp in the Philippines picture published by VOM ( http://michaelwurmbrand.com/philippinescamp.pdf ) and compare it with the $28,000,000+ opulent headquarters built by VOM in Bartlesville, OK out of your sincere donations ( http://mcanawconstruction.com/gallery?id=24 ) AND ASK YOURSELF, "Where do my donations really go?" How can I allow the hoax of making donors think their undesignated donations raised by using the name of the Wurmbrand family are destined to persecuted widows and orphans while going in fact to support opulent constructions in the United States?"

 2016/1/28 19:22









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Julius the Reuters article said that they could not independently confirm the allegations made against Saeed. Also I do not think you can compare Tom White and Saeed Abidini. I'm sure that Tom White was drawing a nice salary from VOM them. Probably had a nice office in the VOM facilites. And Tom White did not come out of an Iranian prison suffering from internal injuries from beatings he had sustained for his faith in Christ.

On the other hand Saeed has nothing. He has suffered for his faith in Christ. He does not have a nice salary. He does not have a gleaming office. And short of a miracle of God. He may not have his wife and children.

But he does have the Lord Jesus Christ. If God sustain him while he was in prison in Iran. Then the Lord will sustain him through this trial.

I keep saying again. We need to pray for the albanyny family.

Blaine

 2016/1/28 20:13









 Re: Can we really judge???

John 8:7

He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.

Brethren even if the allegations against Saeed are true. And only God knows if they are. My question is who among us is without sin that we can cast the first stone of Saeed? Can any brother in this forum tell me that they have not struggled with the issue of pornography or sexual sin? I doubt it very seriously.

Before we go judging the situation. Let us look at ourselves and judge ourselves.

My thoughts.

Blaine

 2016/1/28 20:26









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I don't know about Reuters, only what I read came out of his wife's mouth.

I agree with you that they both need prayer.

 2016/1/28 21:26
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It pains me to see, as I am sure it pains out Lord, how brothers in Christ so quickly throw a fallen brother under the bus, so to speak. If the allegations are true our brother needs to have others guide him, counsel him, and lead him to repentance. If the allegations are false, our sister needs to be restored. Both need prayer.

It saddens me how quickly we turn against a fallen brother. I felt great sorrow over the reports about KP Yohannan, but equal sorrow has come from tue words of condemnation I have seen here. He is still our brother. He now, more than ever, needs our prayers. God is not done with him. His ministry may fall apart and I'm okay with that, if that is the Lords will, but I am not okay from us turning our backs on him because his sin has been exposed. Now is the time for prayer for both of these men.

If my sin were exposed for all the world to see I would hope and pray that a sister would love me enough to fight for me in prayer. Perhaps my sin (or your sin) is greater than that of these men. How would you want to be treated if it were your life? How will the Lord treat them? He is the one we are to imitate.

I am reminded of the verse: A house divided against itself cannot stand. As children of God and followers of Christ we are "a house" and are called to stand together. The world ought to be awed by our love and support for one another, but they actually see us with contempt and play brother against brother for ratings. What shame for us.

Just as a matter of clarification, I am not condoning Saeed's or KP's actions. I am advocating for a different response.

In Christ,
Natalie


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 2016/1/28 21:49Profile





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