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 "God Does Not Support Vaccines"

God Does Not Support Vaccines
July 7, 2014 by Megan Heimer

"Christians, we need to talk. If you are not a Christian, this post is not for you. I still love you. I still accept you. I don’t know what you believe and I’m not trying to convince you to believe otherwise. People who practice other religions…sorry, I am not well versed in the art of your faith so you’ll find little help in this post. Nominal (“in name only”) Christians, this post isn’t for you either.

No judgment here, but I need to speak to my Jesus peeps. You see, there’s this little thing called a religious exemption, and it’s being threatened. A religious exemption is offered in 48 states and gives you the right to opt out of vaccinations if it is objectionable to your faith. And in case you’re wondering, God does not support vaccines, and it is objectionable to our faith.

If you’re a Christian you should care.
I’m not a fortune-teller (usually), but let me tell you what’s happening right under your nose. First, they’ll go after the philosophical exemption. It’s the easiest exemption to get and the easiest exemption to get rid of. Next, they’ll start infringing upon the religious exemption claiming things like, “religious objectors are not constitutionally exempt from vaccinations.” They’ll tell you (like in New York) that you can get a religious exemption but you’ll have to use the magic words and hope that the person who probably doesn’t believe in God and knows nothing about your faith is having a good day. In some states, health departments are making up lies that they are no longer allowed to pass out the exemption cards required to be on file with schools, banking on the hopes that they won’t be questioned.

Eventually, they’ll do away with the religious exemption all together like West Virginia and Mississippi already have. Your only recourse will be to homeschool. Finally, when enough people start homeschooling…they’ll come after you and your kids too. Most states already regulate homeschooling. Do you think they’re above adding a little vaccination requirement? Vaccine enthusiasts are already coming door to door in some areas. Thankfully, you can still shut the door in their face.

Yes, I know a recent ruling just went through in New York that enforced an already existing policy (one that actually exists in most states) that says a school can tell your kid to stay home when there’s an outbreak, even if they have a religious exemption. And I know, pro-vaccine advocates are getting “physician” guest bloggers who claim to be Christian to paraphrase a few Bible verses and tell you to get vaccines in the name of “loving your neighbor” and all that.

Then there’s the propaganda by religious leaders geared towards people like us. If your pastor says it’s okay…then it must be okay right? No…because your pastor isn’t Jesus and probably hasn’t read the vaccine inserts or additives list. And, he was probably told that God loves children who get measles more than vaccine-injured children. Chances are though, like many Christians, he hasn’t even thought about it.

Oh, but it gets worse. There’s also the “extreme crazy Christian” angle, which is how people (even some Christians) who vaccinate like to portray Christians who don’t. You know, the “God gave me an immune system so I’m just going to “faith-heal myself well” and He will protect me while I roll around in polio.” This is certainly within God’s power; but guys, we can do so much better.

The Beginning
Let’s think about this from God’s perspective and let’s go back to the beginning. This is how it all went down. In the beginning, God created heaven, earth, day, night, water, dry land, plants, animals, people, and…the immune system. He then said,

I’m missing something…oh yes, Adam needs the DNA of a dog, some cells of a monkey’s kidney, a couple of mutated viruses, bits of ground up aborted baby, a few carcinogens, some detergent, and a little hazardous waste to help trick his immune system into giving him some temporary, junk immunity. Well…Adam is a grown man, so maybe I should shoot up his baby first.

Wrong. God saw all that he had made and “it was very good.” God’s perfect. Nothing further needed.

“Yeah, but then sin entered the world?”

Oh yes, and so did our arrogance. We actually think “we” hold the key to improving upon His design…as if He forgot something when He created the immune system. Thank God He created us to fix it right? Sin gave us the capacity to perform all sorts of evil deeds so the fact that God gave us the ability to make vaccines is not a reason to use them (1 Peter 2:16).

Aborted Fetal Cells

God is pro-life. This is an un-contested issue. There is zero scriptural support to the contrary. If you’re a Christian, you might be surprised to know that more than 23 vaccines contain cells, cellular debris, protein, and DNA from aborted babies, including: Adenovirus, Polio, Dtap/Polio/HiB Combo, Hep A, Hep A/Hep B Combo, MMR, MMRV Pro Quad, Rabies, Varicella, and the Shingles vaccines.

I’m sorry, but we cannot hold up a pro-life sign on Sunday and give our child a chicken pox vaccine on Monday. We can’t be against abortion but utilize a product derived from it. Now, I usually turn a blind eye to my fellow Christian friends who do this. It’s their business and I am not the ultimate judge, but when someone tells me I “have” to shoot up my kid with dead baby, you better believe I have a problem with it, and so does God.

We’re talking about Christianity here, which means we believe in the sixth commandment, “Thou shalt not murder (Exodus 20:13 & Deuteronomy 5:13).” Children are recognized from God at the point of conception (Genesis 4:1, 17, and Jeremiah 1:5), are knit together by God in the womb (Psalm 139:13-16; Psalm 22:10-11; & Galatians 1:15), are blessings from God (Genesis 1:28; Genesis 4:1; and Psalms 127:3 and 113:7-9), are valued and loved (Matthew 18:1-14 and 19:13-15), are created in His image (Genesis 1:27), and their killing is condemned (Psalm 106:35, 37-38). In fact, the prophet Amos condemns the Ammonites because they “ripped open expectant mothers in Gilead” (Amos 1:13) and child killing was one of the major reasons that God’s anger burned against the Kingdom of Israel bringing about their destruction and exile (2 Kings 17:17-18).

Oh, but they only use cell lines from two aborted babies in the vaccines and the benefit to the public as a whole is far outweighed. False times deuce. First of all, sacrificing the few for the many is biblically unjustifiable. God prohibits child sacrifice (Exodus 20:13, Deuteronomy 5:13, 12:30-32, 18:10, Leviticus 18:21 & 20:2-5, 2 Kings 16:3, and Psalm 106:38), and there is no “for the greater good clause” or “public exception” listed in anywhere in the Bible.

Secondly, even though there are only baby parts from a few babies in our vaccines, many more babies were aborted and dissected in the process of obtaining the perfect strain. In fact, aborted babies are being used everyday to create new cell lines for more vaccines. But just in case you didn’t hear this on the news, in church, or at your doctor’s office, here’s where these ground up baby parts came from:

PER C6 came from a healthy 18 week-old baby who was aborted for social reasons. This tumorigenic strain is being used to develop adenovirus, Ebola, influenza, malaria, tuberculosis, and HIV vaccines. Developers call it a “human designer cell” but what they really mean is “aborted baby cells.”
The HEK293 cell line is derived from the kidneys of a healthy aborted fetus and is being used to develop new influenza vaccines.
IMR-90 cell line came from a 16-week old female aborted baby and IMR-91 came from a male aborted baby. Both were created for vaccine production and functional references.

WI-38 (RA 273) was a 16-week-old female baby (20 cm long) who was aborted in Sweden because the parents felt they had too many children. The baby was packed on ice and sent to the United States (speculation suggests without consent – which was common) where it was dissected. The use of WI-38 cells is a lucrative moneymaking business.
WI-1 through WI-25 cell strains were derived from the lung, skin, muscle, kidney, heart, thyroid, thymus, and liver of 21 separate elective (and some speculate illegal) abortions.

WI-44 was derived from the lung of a three-month old surgically aborted fetus.
MCR-5 cell line was derived from the lung tissue of a 14-week-old male (Britain).
Eighty elective abortions (recorded) were involved in the research and final production of the current rubella vaccine: 21 from the original WI-1 through WI-26 fetal cell lines that failed, plus WI-38 itself, plus 67 from the attempts to isolate the rubella virus.
People will tell you that there aren’t actually any “aborted fetal ingredients” in the final product (as if that matters) that it’s just a medium used in the process. They say things like:

The vaccine that you are offered today contains no trace of the cells that the first-ever batch was grown on.

So…they’re saying it’s like homeopathy? So…its just “frequency” of dead baby? Isn’t that pseudoscience? Despite what you’ve been told, aborted baby goodies are in your vaccinations and it says so right in the package inserts:

This product also contains residual components of MRC-5 cells including DNA and protein (pages 6-7 Varivax insert).

Human safety studies on the effects of aborted fetal DNA, cells, and proteins? Zero. But there is research that shows that the mixing of DNA in the vaccine and DNA in your child could be one of the many ways vaccines contribute to cancer and autism. (See how I did that? Implicated vaccines as a contributing factor in autism without even mentioning mercury?)

And, the DNA from neoplastic cells can contain activated (cancer-causing) oncogenes, viral oncogenes, the genomes of oncogenic viruses, as well as retroviruses that can be transferred to vaccine recipients potentially inducing tumors. Don’t worry though; your pharmaceutical company will take extra precautions (like they did with the Polio vaccine) to make sure this doesn’t happen.

Hello? What are we doing? There is no religious justification that makes it even remotely okay to play “operation” with an aborted baby, let alone inject our children with foreign human DNA that has the propensity to cause all sorts of medical conditions.

It’s Not Just About the Babies
It’s not just the aborted baby parts you should have an objection to. Neurotoxins, hazardous substances, attenuated viruses, animal parts, foreign DNA, albumin from human blood, carcinogens, and chemical wastes are all ingredients in your child’s vaccinations and not one of them are proven safe. Not…a…single…one.

“Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies (1 Corinthians 6:19-20, NIV).

“So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31)”

And then there’s the issue of contamination. Not only are the additives in vaccines considered contaminants from a biblical standpoint, the contaminants themselves are often contaminated (making them unavoidably unsafe).

Since vaccine preparation involves the use of materials of biological origin, vaccines are subject to contamination by micro-organisms. […] The increasing number of target species for vaccines, the diversity of the origin of biological materials and the extremely high number of known and unknown viruses and their constant evolution represent a challenge to vaccine producers and regulatory authorities.

In the Bible, blood represented the life force of the human or animal. Human blood was to be kept pure under all circumstances and free of contaminants like animal parts and blood (Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:11, 17:14, Deuteronomy 12:23, Leviticus 17:10, Acts 15:20, and Acts 15:29).

Bovine cow serum for example, is often contaminated with viruses that cause viral diarrhea. In 2012, Merck recalled over a million doses of their PedVaxHib (Hib vaccine) and ComVax HiB/Hepatitis B combination vaccine because of Bacillus Cereus contamination, a bacteria that typically causes diarrhea and food poisoning. The polio vaccines used in the 1950’s and 60’s were contaminated by the SV40 virus from monkey kidney cells now responsible for several different types of cancer including brain and bone cancer, lymphomas, leukemia, and mesothelioma, and can be passed to subsequent generations via maternal antibodies from those vaccinated with contaminated vaccines.

Even the CDC admitted SV40 was an oopsie on their website…and then the page was removed. Don’t worry though, those aborted baby and tumor-derived cell lines only cause cancer if they’re contaminated, and those crazy lab-viruses only cause harm if they “escape” from a lab. Rest assured, your pharmaceutical company has everything under control.


Moreover, laboratory safety practices and technology cannot erase human error and equipment failures that lead to accidents, as evidenced by a recent string of lab-acquired infections and environmental releases of SARS, Ebola, tularemia, and other dangerous diseases. In fact, the last reported human cases of smallpox were laboratory acquired.


But wait, what about my neighbor?
Apparently, I owe my neighbor a Christian duty to get vaccinated…but you see, I don’t owe my neighbor any duty that conflicts with God’s Word. After God, I owe a duty to my child, not your child…and my child is not getting vaccinated.

Yeah, but the Bible says you have to submit to governing authority. 

Remember the whole…”Thou shalt have no other Gods thing?” Oh yeah…that. We Christians are not to submit to any governing authority or policy that is not submissive to God’s Word (Book of Daniel, Esther 4:11 – 7:3, Acts 5:27-29, 1 John 2:4), are to “have no other gods,” are to keep God’s commands even in the face of policy that forbids it (Daniel 6:7-10), and are not to defile ourselves with things of the culture that contradict our God (Daniel 1:8).

Now when Daniel learned that the decree (not to pray to anyone but the king) had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before. Daniel 6:10 (emphasis mine).

Yeah, but God says, “love your neighbor as yourself.”

God also throughout His Word, shows us countless ways to do that. Not one of them includes murdering unborn children, injecting viruses into each other, and shooting our kids up with carcinogens.

Fear sells.
The Bible calls us to make wise decisions, but wise decisions are not based on fear. Yet, this is the #1 and almost exclusive means used to coerce parents into vaccinating. Seriously, take a look at the headlines. Simple childhood illnesses are deceptively portrayed as deadly diseases. We’re told diseases are being “brought back” even though they never disappeared. People run from a measles rash like they ran from the plague. A rash of course, is far worse than anything the MMR vaccine could cause. A fever is scary, unless it’s the fever that accompanies your child’s vaccinations. Statistics are manipulated and the one unvaccinated child who got all of the other vaccinated people sick is plastered onto the news so you can avoid every single place this child frequented, breathed, ate, or farted at.

Oh, but polio and paralysis and iron lungs…oh my! The polio campaign is a perfect example of how fear, deception, and manipulated data are used to fear people into vaccinating. Do you think God supports fear propaganda? No. There are 365 “fear nots” in the Bible. This could be one of the many reasons “fear propaganda” seems to be ineffective at convincing the unvaccinated (who are largely made up of Christians) to change their stance.


Despite what some may think, “we” humans know very little about the immune system and how it functions (which is why your doctor can’t give you the cause or cure of your chronic auto-immune disease). In fact, we are consistently getting it wrong. That’s to be expected though right? Good thing we believe in the God who not only created the immune system, but also knows everything there is to know about it.

By wisdom the Lord laid the earth’s foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place; by his knowledge the watery depths were divided, and the clouds let drop the dew. Proverbs 3: 19-20

For you [God] created my inmost being [including my immune system]; you knit me together in my mother’s womb [hard to top that right?]. I praise you because I am fearfully [not the scared kind of fear] and wonderfully made [minus the time you were texting while creating our jacked up immune systems]. Your works are wonderful [except you left us completely defenseless to disease without the use of dead baby and hazardous substances]. […] My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place [but the scientific community would like to pretend it was], when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body [woah, now we’re getting personal]; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be [which means God knows everything right?]. Psalm 139:13-16 (emphasis mine).

If you are a Christian and are trying to figure out whether it’s wise to vaccinate, consider this:

“Trust in the Lord with all of your heart and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight (Proverbs 3:5-6).”

In other words, read and follow God’s Word.
But the Bible wasn’t written by God. Wrong. See 2 Timothy 3:16.
Well, the Bible is outdated. Wrong. See Hebrews 4:12.
The Old Testament doesn’t apply to our lives today, so we’re off the hook. Wrong again. See Matthew 5:17.


Oh, but thank God we have vaccines that have prevented so many (unsubstantiated) deaths.
I thank God for many things, but the vaccine is not one of them.
 I’m not going to thank God for something He deliberately opposes in His scipture. It’s like thanking God for abortions, carcinogens, trash dumps, and lab-engineered viruses. It’s insulting. I’m sure He takes kindly to it.

The same people thanking God for vaccines are the same ones who downplay and disregard the thousands of references in His word to how we should eat, live, and take care of our bodies. The Bible does not reference vaccines specifically, but it does reference pharmaceutical medication…to which vaccines belong. You know what the Bible calls this? Sorcery (Gal 5:20, Rev 9:21, 18:23, 21:8, and 22:15). Actually the Greek word for sorcery is “pharmakeia.” Pretty ironic don’t ya think?


And no, I’m not saying God is “anti medicine.” I’m saying God is anti-anything that contradicts His Word and the Word is what we Christians claim to live by.

I don’t know about you, but I for one will not “thank God” for vaccines that injure children each and every day, for the rise in cancer caused by contaminated vaccines, and for bad science that puts the health of our children at risk. I will not thank God for institutions that are so corrupt and greed-driven, that they’re willing to flat-out ignore vaccine adverse reactions and vaccine-injured children. Although we shouldn’t be surprised, the Bible talks about this too (Matthew 6:24, Revelations 18:11).

I will not thank God for the immaturity, hate, bullying, and coercion being inflicted upon the un-vaccinated. And, I will certainly not thank God for vaccine adverse reactions like brain encephalopathy, food allergies, rheumatoid arthritis, vaccine associated chicken pox, measles, mumps, and vaccine associated paralytic polio, immunologic disorders, multiple sclerosis, brain damage, SIDS, and death.


It’s true…most Christians don’t question vaccinations and haven’t thought about God’s take on the issue. I used to be one of them. Regardless of your denomination, we all serve the same God, and God does not support vaccines. So, we should stop pretending that He does. I for one will fight for the religious exemption. You should too.

And just in case you are wondering how the story ends…God wins"

http://www.livingwhole.org/god-does-not-support-vaccines/

 2015/7/3 11:57Profile
TMK
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 Re: "God Does Not Support Vaccines"

Allrightythen.


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 Re: "God Does Not Support Vaccines"

This sounds a lot like Jeremiah's words in Lamentations.

The delicate women ate their own children. Is God not the same yesterday, today and forever? We say America deserves to be judged by God so...

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Not sure what you mean Jeremy. Can you elucidate?


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We have turned to the sorcerers of the world whom have polluted our blood with animal virus http://sv40foundation.org/
and sodden our children and injected (feed) them back to us.
"Almost 92% of our children have been given vaccines made using aborted fetal cell lines, which are contaminated with aborted fetal cell DNA and a retrovirus." http://soundchoice.org/aborted-fetal-products/vaccines/

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Yes, but perhaps neither you nor I would be alive if not for vaccines. My grandmother lost 3 siblings to now eradicated childhood disease and my grandfather lost 2.

Is Jesus for kids dying from polio and whooping cough etcetera etc etc?


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This is a very important topic, thanks for posting proudpapa. I'm not getting too much into a debate here, I think the information you posted speaks volumes.Of course we need good honest Doctors, Luke was one and i think also Martin Lloyd Jones.I would have had full confidence in those men.
But we live in a different time now and we need to understand who wants to rule the world.

"the whole world lies in the power of the evil one..." 1 John 5:19
"just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil..."Ephesians 2 v2
"All these things I (the devil) will give You, if You fall down and worship me..."Matthew 4:9

Our rulers are gaining more and more power over us and they are not godly!
Besides that we see a spiritual decline such as we have probably never seen before in this world.Therefore I can see history repeating itself, imo the Dark Ages are here again, but it will get much darker this time then ever before!
Unless we would repent and cry out to God to have mercy .

Maranatha ! Come Lord Jesus, come quickly!

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It is common today to say that America is under God's judgement for worshipping false gods. In many circumstances in Israel, that judgement resulted the parents killing and eating their children to survive famine or siege conditions.

America is not in this specific situation where we are facing famine or siege conditions causing starvation. However, there are instances, like this, where even delicate women, who would never consider murdering their kids so they can eat, are facilitating it in the wider culture by making use of the remains of their neighbors' destroyed kids in vaccines, beauty products and various other things. So these women are consuming the flesh of infants, women who cringe at the slightest display of violence and worship their own children like little gods.

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Just a few questions...If we are truly lead by the spirit, shouldn't God speak to us as individuals to what we should do in all things? Is it possible that we might be mislead by man, and we might really need some of these vaccines? Is it possible that even Christians might mislead Christians in these times? Matthew 24:24 "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.


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Quote:
It is common today to say that America is under God's judgement for worshipping false gods. In many circumstances in Israel, that judgement resulted the parents killing and eating their children to survive famine or siege conditions.

America is not in this specific situation where we are facing famine or siege conditions causing starvation. However, there are instances, like this, where even delicate women, who would never consider murdering their kids so they can eat, are facilitating it in the wider culture by making use of the remains of their neighbors' destroyed kids in vaccines, beauty products and various other things. So these women are consuming the flesh of infants, women who cringe at the slightest display of violence and worship their own children like little gods.



The world is under condemnation for rejecting Christ and the gospel of God?

Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

The Church is certainly under judgment for spiritual adultery and all manner of things.

1Pet_4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

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