Evangelical preacher the Rev. Franklin Graham said in an Easter Sunday message that Christians around the world continue facing higher levels of persecution and violence, and warned that "ugly, anti-Christian bias and intolerance" is changing America."Today, untold millions of Christians around the world are celebrating the resurrection of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And millions in many countries risk their freedom and — their very lives — to worship Him and claim His Name. Even under the threat of imprisonment, they faithfully follow, like pastor Saeed Abidini and scores of others," Graham said, referring to the imprisoned Christian pastor and U.S. citizen in Iran. ...read more: http://www.christianpost.com/news/franklin-graham-warns-ugly-anti-christian-bias-and-intolerance-is-changing-america-from-the-inside-out-in-easter-message-136961/
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On the same topic:Dr. James White - Coming Persecution of the Church in USAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf11zMfgrFw
Franklin Graham warns when the Apostle James said 'consider it joy'.Fear mongering isn't the gospel. I'd strongly encourage you Greg to see the err of Franklin Graham's methods and words.Right wing politics uses fear mongering on a daily basis. Fear doesn't produce the fruit of the Spirit. Graham has fallen into the camp of right wing politics, not puritan teachings nor revivalists, nor early church theology.
LMH wrote: "Franklin Graham warns when the Apostle James said 'consider it joy'."This statement lacks empathy and compassion! Yes we are personally called when facing trials and even persecution to 'count it all joy'. However that does not mean we just sit back looking at our brethren from the cozy comfort of our easy chairs and do nothing. Just throw them a scripture 'hey, count it all joy guys!Most of the Christian ministries such as Open Doors not only give practical support to persecuted Christians, but also raise awareness of their plight on a public level. We should be a voice for the voiceless.
Americans aren't the voiceless. Just turn on any right wing radio and you'll heart Franklin Graham's message from various political voices. Daily, heck, even hourly.You say I lack compassion but Jesus wasn't very compassionate to the Pharisees. Approx three years ago, I started looking into Franklin and was shocked at what I found. He is nothing like his father. The gospel isn't Franklin's mission, something else is. Maybe he wants to be a senator or president, I don't know. But he isn't spreading the Word of God like his father did.If he didn't do it under the guise of 'Christian ministry', I'd leave it alone and move on but he is.Franklin Graham is preaching something similar to Jerry Falwell.Finally, 'warning'. Let's remember the 1980s and when the lot of Christian ministers 'warned' that Christ was going to return.
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I'm not discussing politics. I'd encourage you to reread what I wrote. Maybe you missed the message since it was so short.I'm exposing Franklin Graham's politics in *his words*. His words are VERY similar to Jerry Falwell and right wing pundits.Just because Franklin does 'significant work' doesn't mean his words aren't to be tested and judged. Come on, that would be very immature. "let's ignore what he said and focus on what he is doing" No, we will be held accountable to every word we speak or write.Franklin takes in $250,000 for his 'significant work' from Samaritan Purse. His charities aren't blameless and very blemished based on 3rd parties accountability (charity navigator and others). You might say Franklin is saved but...I'd say he is closer to Creflo Dollar than you care to admit. Every year it's becoming more evident. So, I have no problem dividing against a wolf in sheep's clothing.You say this is 'political' it's not! You say this a quarreling? This is not. Would you say the threads that talk about WoF quarreling? 9 times out of 10 you let them go on for hundreds of posts.Greg, I find it sad that you have a golden calf and his name is Franklin Graham. We can't talk about him. We can't touch him. He is just too important for you to not speak of. Paul was examined by the Apostles at Jerusalem. There is nothing wrong with cross examining people. Franklin is going down a slippery slope and it's getting worse every year. You may not see it and care to defend him but it should be discussed, just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.I want to discuss statements, doctrines, and even motives (if there is evidence). If Graham made a political statement, that doesn't magically turn this thread into a political thread. No one here is discussing politics. We were discussing fear mongering/warning of persecution.You are posting Franklin Graham stuff. Not me. I didn't start threads about him, except why you closed a different thread.Franklin Graham isn't speaking the gospel. He isn't speaking scripture. He shouldn't be in your 'news' section. Yes you can do whatever you want but...come on.Your news section is supposed to be to:
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LoveMeekHope,You have some important input on the things of the Lord that I have enjoyed reading but this "opinion" you have on Franklin Graham seems to be getting in the way of hearing what Greg is saying to you. I've watched Godly people come and go on this site because they had some pet peeve or personal agenda they couldn't OR wouldn't let go. And I don't want you to let your pride about Franklin Graham get in the way and you end up being one of people asked to leave. (Actually, I'm surprised that I'm still here!! lol) Please hear what Greg is saying in the spirit of love to you. God bless you,Lisa