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Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

 2005/4/22 8:43

 Re: Good Advice

Compton wrote:

Regarding self-expulsion from SI, I think the real answer might just be some time away. A single week did the trick for me

That is the best advice I have seen here yet.



 2005/4/22 10:02

Joined: 2004/7/9
Posts: 315
The Netherlands


[b][edit:][/b] I'm so sorry for interrupting this thread with my response to Krispy...I didn't read the entire thread, only read his post quickly. The thoughts shared here are so valuable and true...I'm really, really sorry for making this post. It just shows once again that I shouldn't be making a "quick" shouldn't be about making my statement, but sharing the precious words of God, so that we all may be directed to Christ alone...

I didn't delete the post, because I recall that Greg said something about that some while ago. I did leave out a few sentences though.

He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? (Micah 6:8)

May the Lord be honored throughout SI and our own lives! A work in progress, Paul

So I posted the anathemas of the Council of Trent and asked everyone to read it, and then defend the RCC's teachings. The threads died! I have never gotten a response after that. I can only conclude two things... no one can defend it after they read that, or no one read it and just went away mad.

Could you send me the link, brother? I'm lost in the numerous threads here. Can't see the trees through the forest. I'm rather busy right now, but I sure would love to read that.

I myself live within a "RCC Empire" here in the Netherlands. I'm really saddened by the fact that friends and other people relate Christianity to the Roman Catholic Church. Two days ago a guy came up to me and said: "Congratulations". I didn't get it, but he continued: "yeah, with the pope, man!"...that made me laugh and cry at the same time.

May we be filled with the true love of God, through the Holy Spirit (Rom 5:5). [b]May the true compassion of Jesus fill our hearts and minds for all the people in this world..."for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Eph 6:12)[/b]

Could you PM me that link? Then I can't lose it anymore. Thanks.

Your brother, Paul


 2005/4/22 10:02Profile

 Re: Farewell To Thee!

Firstly, thank you Chanin for your post. Faultfinding is somthing God is dealing with in my life and has been for some time.

Jesus says that as His disciple you should cultivate a temperament that is never critical. This will not happen quickly but must be developed over a span of time. You must constantly beware of anything that causes you to think of yourself as a superior person.

Exactly....over a span of time.Looking back i know i am improving with God changing me, moulding me everyday.
Second, if i find myself judging and faultfinding with someone say at church(which i do)or vise versa, then should i then completely stop talking to them and just 'observe' them from afar? NO! You wouldn't think of it. You still talk to that person and yet pray for them and yourself at the same time.That person is a brother/sister, you wouldn't dream of ignoring them because they or yourself were always faultfinding. So is it not the same with our brothers and sisters here on sermonindex?
Just a thought.
In His love, Geraldine

 2005/4/22 10:08

Joined: 2003/10/15
Posts: 1632


Well, I had a big long post and it accidently got erased. :-(

In short I would like to say that i am disappointed. I have never wanted to leave SI because I was disappointed. I have wanted to leave because I felt I had been offended-- but I have grown way past that. Thank the Lord for His ways!

But I am growing weary of all this. I have watched from afar for the last couple of months and it just saddens me.

I could go to a regular church and hear all of this kind of talk. I could go to any church function, women's group and hear all kinds of gossip and "who's doing this and who's doing that".

I came away from that because of all these things. These things that were not of Christ. I want to glorify God with my speech, my writing, my fellowship.

The way some are defending the right to judge, it seems as this is the main point of our faith.

Yes, we are called to judge and "discern", but that is certainly NOT our number one priority or even close to it.

What are our main priorities?:

1.And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.'

2.'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'[b] There is no other commandment greater than these.[/b]"

Everyone who frequents here and hopefully listens to some sermons knows that even the sermons expose false teaching. The TRUTH exposes false teaching.

It does not need to be a clanging cymbal.

I pray that the Lord's will will be done here at SI. That HE alone will be glorified- that the work He started here in growing His body in the grace and knowledge of Him, will continue. I pray that people who come here will see something different, a Christlikeness, a light in the dark world- even in "christianity". I pray that people will come here and have revival start in their own hearts. That we will all grow in humilty.

I support SI and Greg. My heart is very concerned when i see things going the way they have.

May all pride be crushed and may the humility of Jesus reign here.

In His love, chanin


 2005/4/22 11:19Profile

Joined: 2005/2/24
Posts: 3326



moreofHim wrote:
I could go to a regular church and hear all of this kind of talk. I could go to any church function, women's group and hear all kinds of gossip and "who's doing this and who's doing that".

There is not a place far enough on this earth were you can go to get away from this, only in Heaven will we be safe from this. :-)


 2005/4/22 11:49Profile


You should consider that some may be called to be watchmen. Guards on the wall.

I dont see the gossip you're talking about. Exposing false teachings and discussing different things that are happening in the church... good or bad... is not gossip.

Gossip is defined as such:

1. Rumor or talk of a personal, sensational, or intimate nature.

2. A person who habitually spreads intimate or private rumors or facts.

3. Trivial, chatty talk or writing.

A [b]rumor[/b] is defined as such:

1. A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth.

2. Unverified information received from another; hearsay.

I'm really not trying to be argumenative here... but you're accusing some here of gossip, which in essence is spreading rumors.

Discussing false doctrines is hardly either one of those things.

You're calling people clanging cymbles, which eludes to 1 Corinthians 13:1&2. We who discuss false doctrines have not love?

Channin, I have been challenged and blessed by your posts on this site, and I sincerely hope that you do not leave. However, should you stay, I believe you need to understand that all you know of any of us is what we write here. You dont see us with our children or spouses. You dont see is in our fellowships. You dont see us involved in whatever ministries we've been called to. You dont know how each person here effects (or doesnt effect) the world for Christ.

In the end... these are words. If someone annoys you... ignore them. I can think of one person on here who I have learned to ignore on a regular basis. I used to let that person bother me. I dont anymore. Why? I shook the dust of my shoes.

No one forces you to read ever thread on here. I dont. Pick and choose your battles. Some hills are worth dying on... some are not.


 2005/4/22 11:57


I said what i said in my last post because in the church i attend there are about 30 of us and we are mostly all related to each other so i have no fellowship with anyone my own age.My husbands parents are the pastors and my sister-in-laws husband is assosiate pastor! It can get very hard there for me yet i feel it's where im supposed to be ...for now.
I cannot tell you how many times i have been sooooooo hurt by some of the people in my church yet i have also unintentionally offended maybe even hurt others. I don't think theres a church in England where theres complete unity and absolutly no gossiping. If there is can someone tell me about it?
There has been so much good from SI and i pray God will continue to use this site (and the forum) to bless all who use it.

 2005/4/22 12:19

Joined: 2005/2/24
Posts: 3326



geraldine wrote:There has been so much good from SI and i pray God will continue to use this site (and the forum) to bless all who use it.

Amen! Likewise. :-)


 2005/4/22 12:33Profile


If a person is looking for a perfect church, rest assured that when they find it... their own imperfection will mess it up.


 2005/4/22 13:43

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