i watched with interest and was wowd at parelels taught in this and what wyatt said about finding the ark ,,he sounds like an honest believer ,,,but at the end started to not agree with some of the other interpratation about the temple and the annti christ,and keeping the sabbath that the host was talking about ,, i noticed that it was a voice over ,regargarding the host ,,,

i would be verry interest if some here could give me a prayer responce to this doctramentry ,,,,,,,at the end i noticed that it said this was not produced by any demnionation and can be freely given


looking forward to hearing what ya have to say

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyxYSme52t4

Not by Ron Wyatt I think!
Sorry to disappoint Gary, but Ron was notorious at claiming to find nearly every significant biblical artefact, but without any evidence. He is not trusted by those in the biblical archaeological field for good reasons.

Edit: BTW. He died in 1999 and was connected to the Seventh Day Adventists.

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did you watch the video ,,,i saw the noas ark its real in my opinion ,,,,i know hes a seventha dayer ,,but thta doesnt mean he not born again ,,,been baptisest and prebterians that have believed and kept the jewish sabbath


i just found his testamoney to be sincear and emotional on his part ,,,he wanst lieing accoring to my desenment ,,,,,watch the testamoney ,,and tell me if you think he is lieing

oh if the bibical arcaelogical field is like the 70 pecent of unregenerent liberal christians ,,,then it would not suprised if the reject a mans testamoney
blessings

I agree with you Brothagary . Like you I find Ron to be a thoroughly sincere and honest Christian . Being a Seventh Day Adventist is no discredit to him

Of course being a SDA does not discredit him.

However most reputable bible believing evangelical Christians involved in archaeology and creation evidence discredit him.

here is an excerpt from Wikipedia, but just google 'Ron Wyatt'

***Quote***
"While Wyatt won a devoted following from some fundamentalist Christians, he was not considered credible by professional archaeologists and biblical scholars. The Garden Tomb Association of Jerusalem state in a letter they issue to visitors on request:

"The Council of the Garden Tomb Association (London) totally refute the claim of Mr Wyatt to have discovered the original Ark of the Covenant or any other biblical artifacts within the boundaries of the area known as the Garden Tomb Jerusalem. Though Mr Wyatt was allowed to dig within this privately owned garden on a number of occasions (the last occasion being the summer of 1991) staff members of the Association observed his progress and entered his excavated shaft. As far as we are aware nothing was ever discovered to support his claims nor have we seen any evidence of biblical artifacts or temple treasures."

"Archaeologist Joe Zias of Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) has stated that "Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary. ... [His claims] fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun etc."[14]

"Wyatt's fellow evangelicals have also been critical: Answers in Genesis called Wyatt's claims "fraudulent,"[15] and one Seventh-day Adventist professor of archaeology sums up Wyatt's Noah's Ark and anchor stones claims in these words: "While the Durupinar site is about the right length for Noah's ark, [it is] ... too wide to be Noah's ark. Wyatt has claimed that the "boat-shapedness" of this formation can only be explained by its being Noah's ark, but both Shea and Morris have offered other plausible explanations."
***End Quote***


Of course you can just believe him if you want, that's up to you, but sometimes we Christians can be the most naïve people.

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Here is a list of the find's Ron claimed he found....

*Noah's Ark (the Durupınar site, located approximately 18 miles (29 km) south of Mount Ararat)[2]
*Anchor stones (or drogue stones) used by Noah on the Ark[3]
*The post-flood house, grave markers and tombs of Noah and his wife[4]
*The location of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other Cities of the Plain: Zoar, Zeboim and Admah[5]
*Sulfur/brimstone balls from the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah.[6]
*The area of Djoser's pyramid complex believed to be the remains of Joseph's grain distribution bins used during the 7 year famine.[7]
*The Tower of Babel site (in southern Turkey)[8]
*How the Egyptians may have built the pyramids.[9]
*The site of the Israelites' crossing of the Red Sea (located in the Gulf of Aqaba)[10]
*Chariot wheels and other relics of the army of Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea
*The site of the biblical Mt. Sinai (in Saudi Arabia at Jabal al Lawz)[11]
*A chamber at the end of a maze of tunnels under Jerusalem containing artifacts from Solomon's Temple (including the *Ark of the Covenant).[12]
*The site of the Crucifixion of Jesus
Christ's blood, dripped onto the Mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant beneath the Crucifixion site.
Burial pots off the coast of Ashkelon. (13)

Note how they are all major jaw dropping discoveries!! Surely he would be the most celebrated Archaeologist ever.

We have here in the British Museum in London and wealth of bible supporting archaeology that you can see for free. It's fantastic to see the evidence for the biblical accounts.

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this was intertesting what kent said about ron not being a seventhday adventus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRR_oGJgkMI

oh i forgot dave to say i have read wiki that was the first place i went

iv seen the movie about the red sea crossing verry convincing

iv seen the movie about sodom ,,verry convincing

the one about mt sinai and the camp verry convincing

after watching them it is hard to doubt the scincerity and testamony of him with the ark


have you seen the thos doctuomentrys

Hi Gary,

Yes I looked at all this stuff a few years ago. Just taking it on face value they seem convincing, but if anyone made a films like this they could seem 'kosher' until you hear another side. The first person to tell their story always sounds convincing until another witness is brought in.

My issue is that the burden of proof was with Ron Wyatt and he never provided any proof nor have any of his supporters since. Also why do nearly all the biblical research bodies, such as Answers in Genesis and the Garden Tomb reject his claims.

We cannot trust our own 'discernment' in things like this. At the end of the day, it does not matter. I for one would not (could not) promote his claims to anyone without evidence. It could make us look stupid.

We have the evidence for all of these 'events' taking place, in the bible which we do take by faith in that record with good reason. However we do not have to take by faith a man's claim of finding these things today. It is not necessary for me to have any other evidence, I already believe it is true. Of course if someone actually finds and produces certain archaeological discoveries (and there are many) then that is great and just confirms what we already believe.

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yea i understand what ya mean like i said the doco aobut sodom the red sea mt sinia ,it seems like he was not trying to hide the evendence he found tho with the ark it seem he is,, or from what kent has said it now lies in the hands of some jews

i cant help but think of jesus and how the pharasiees more or less wanted jesus to prove it ,and give signs ,,, but jesus refused and even spoke in paraables so that hearing that may not here ,,jesus said that the mysters of the kingdom was only giver to certaint ones that we could say are elected ,,,and in time the revalation was givern to who god chosses ,,and we even read that a dulusion is given to others

maby if this is truely the ark that is given as a testamoney by prophecy as said ,,it may be that it is being revealed in gods time to whom he chosses ,,that would line up how god revels the gosple to people and nations ,,,so it may not be up to ron to give the proof when you or i or the world would demend or expect it

thats just a thought that came to me as i was thinking about jesus and the pharsise ,,, i wasnt planing to say that in the biginning of this reply

thanks for your imput dave