| Poster | Thread | Rahman
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| | Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | |
Flipping thru the channels last night i came across Pat Robertson just in time to hear him say, "Lets all pray the Holy Spirit leads the Cardinals in choosing the correct Pope" ... Yikes!
That short circuited my brain for a minute as scripture tells me the bed of the harlot is a very dangerous bed to be in ... What's going on that it seems so many "big name" Protestants now, after JP II's death, are somehow lending spiritual credence to the RC system, or am i being overly prejudiced here? ...
The Complete List of Popes
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|  2005/4/12 9:45 | Profile | Angyl
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| | Re: Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | | Is it any wonder? Remember there is to be a marriage of the worlds religions as our world winds down. [b]The REFORMATION WILL END[/b] and we will come full-circle back to a single denomiation with the whore that is the Catholic church.
You are right to wonder why the "superstar" protestant leaders are kissing up to the Catholics and their faith after JPII's death. You don't win muslim converts by praising their hellish religion, you do it by pointing out the severe error in their doctrine. The only reason for giving praise to a false religion is either because you admire it or because you want the followers of that faith to admire you.
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| | 2005/4/12 10:06 | Profile |
| | Re: Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | | Quote:
Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ...
Do cows jump over the moon?
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What's going on that it seems so many "big name" Protestants now, after JP II's death, are somehow lending spiritual credence to the RC system
2Th 2:3 [i]Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;[/i]
This is John Wesley's commentary on this verse... very interesting indeed, and I think it answers your question completely:
[i]2Th 2:3 - Unless the falling away - From the pure faith of the gospel, come first. This began even in the apostolic age. But the man of sin, the son of perdition - Eminently so called, is not come yet. However, in many respects, the Pope has an indisputable claim to those titles. He is, in an emphatical sense, the man of sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled, the son of perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers, destroyed innumerable souls, and will himself perish everlastingly. He it is that opposeth himself to the emperor, once his rightful sovereign; and that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped - Commanding angels, and putting kings under his feet, both of whom are called gods in scripture; claiming the highest power, the highest honour; suffering himself, not once only, to be styled God or vice - god. Indeed no less is implied in his ordinary title, "Most Holy Lord," or, "Most Holy Father." So that he sitteth - Enthroned. In the temple of God - Mentioned Rev_11:1. Declaring himself that he is God - Claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.[/i]
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The REFORMATION WILL END and we will come full-circle back to a single denomiation with the whore that is the Catholic church.
Not for me... my spiritual roots run clear back to the 1st century. I do not consider myself Protestant... I'm remnant. But we discussed that on the other thread. (And I know you agree, Angyl)
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| | 2005/4/12 10:14 | | rookie
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| | Re: | | God is in control of all things. For some the election will mean judgement and for the remnant it is mercy and grace.
God raised up Cyrus to destroy Babylon. Before that God raised up Babylon to destroy Israel. But through it all there was a remnant saved by the mercy and grace.
We are called to discern light from darkness. God has already accomplished His will before the foundations of this world.
In Christ
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| | 2005/4/12 10:55 | Profile |
| | Re: | | Can you elaborate, Rookie? Not sure I'm following you...
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| | 2005/4/12 10:57 | | rookie
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| | Re: | | Job 34
21 For His eyes are on the ways of man,
And He sees all his steps.
22 There is no darkness nor shadow of death
Where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.
23 For He need not further consider a man,
That he should go before God in judgment.
24 He breaks in pieces mighty men without inquiry,
And sets others in their place.
25 Therefore He knows their works;
He overthrows them in the night,
And they are crushed.
26 He strikes them as wicked men
In the open sight of others,
27 Because they turned back from Him,
And would not consider any of His ways,
God works through all the wickness of man and for those who love God He will work all things for their good. What men meant for evil God will preserve His people.
God set all men in their place.
In Christ
Jeff
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| | 2005/4/12 11:02 | Profile | Rahman
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| | Re: Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | |
Angyl and Krispy,
it's like they've lost there ever lovin spiritual minds ... What mind of Christ?
Krispy i totally understand where you're coming from re: the RC church, the Protestant Church and the "remnant" ...
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| | 2005/4/12 11:22 | Profile | Rahman
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| | Re: Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | |
Hey brother Jeff! ...
Hmmmm ... i know that God has all under control ... So are you saying that God does in fact elect all popes, or that He may step into human history occasionally and select one to a special purpose ... i have a hard time believing that God actually "elects" error, but no trouble understanding that He already knows what a man will chose to do and uses that to the benefit of his plan, as in God didn't cause Judas to betray Christ but He knew He would ... Am i making any sense?
And doesn't God "elect" vessels of mercy and just "select" vessels of wrath, or am i just playing with words here?
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| | 2005/4/12 11:24 | Profile |
| | Re: Does the Holy Spirit Elect Popes? ... | | I want to thank God right now, that He led me to His Son, and that the men whom I model my walk on are such men as David Brainerd, John Sung and Frank Bartleman. |
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