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macbug
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 Politics is Mammon

Politics is a waste of time for the true followers of Jesus, it is like the Jews arguing over genealogies. Discipleship is the real answer to the worlds problems, especially if you believe we are in the last days. We should be preparing the way for the Lords return. ONE of Satan's most effective tactics is to get the followers of Jesus Christ to do something "good" instead of what is BEST. Politics no matter what your position DIVIDES the body of Christ. It detracts from spreading the Gospel.


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michael

 2014/1/24 8:38Profile
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 Re: Politics is Mammon

I personally don't see how one can be a Christian and be a-political. When you are talking to the kings of this world about the King who sits over them, and how that should change the way they think, act, and as a result.. govern, I don't see how our faith can be uninvolved in politics.


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Jimmy H

 2014/1/24 8:53Profile
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macbug stated

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Politics no matter what your position DIVIDES the body of Christ. It detracts from spreading the Gospel



Taking a stand on a topic will of necessity sometimes divide. That is not necessarily a bad thing, imho.

For example -

- Pro Life verses pro abortion is a political issue.
- Capital punishment for heinous crimes (For example the rape and killing of a 3 year old child) is a political issue.
- Forced euthanasia on the elderly is a political issue.
- Feeding the starving is a political issue.
- Feeding children without any money lunch at school is a political issue.
- Whether funds should be taken in from citizens in the form of taxes to fund public education is a political issue.
- Should parents be allowed to home school is a political issue.
- Should medical care be provided free of charge to those who can not afford it is a political issue . If it IS allowed then who should be taxed to pay for it is another political issue.
- The level of clean water and air requirements is a political issue.
- The impact on jobs lost to all Americans by the clean air/water acts is a political issue.
- Should the US have open borders and allow whoever wishes to come to that country free access is a political issue.
- IF everyone is allowed free access what rights do they then have? For example, can they file for unemployment, free tuition, etc. Why or why not? IF so who will then be taxed to pay for it? Do they have the same constitutional rights as an actual citizen at that point? Why or why not? These are all political issues.
- Actually being a "Final Solution" Nazi in Germany or being a person who smuggled the Jews out of the way of the concentration death camps was a political decision.

Making a "political" decision can at times be a very Godly thing to do.

The three Hebrews that refused to bow to the golden idol were making a political decision along with the moral one of their conscience.

The above are just a few political issues off the top of my head. However, most of them obviously have a moral component to them as well.

If believers do not pervade the political/moral climate of a country with righteousness then it is left to darkness.

Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any people- Prov. 14:34

 2014/1/24 9:30Profile









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And just because an issue or topic is emotional is not a reason for staying away from it. Most issues in Christianity can be quite emotional and passionate.

 2014/1/24 9:46









 want some"politics"?

here you go:

(i'm going to paste Mike Snyders article here, but you might want to go to the original, as he has links to the 20 items he lists)


20 Early Warning Signs That We Are Approaching A Global Economic Meltdown

By Michael Snyder, on January 23rd, 2014


"Have you been paying attention to what has been happening in Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil, Ukraine, Turkey and China? If you are like most Americans, you have not been. Most Americans don't seem to really care too much about what is happening in the rest of the world, but they should. In major cities all over the globe right now, there is looting, violence, shortages of basic supplies, and runs on the banks. We are not at a "global crisis" stage yet, but things are getting worse with each passing day. For a while, I have felt that 2014 would turn out to be a major "turning point" for the global economy, and so far that is exactly what it is turning out to be. The following are 20 early warning signs that we are rapidly approaching a global economic meltdown..."

#1 The looting, violence and economic chaos that is happening in Argentina right now is a perfect example of what can happen when you print too much money...


For Dominga Kanaza, it wasn’t just the soaring inflation or the weeklong blackouts or even the looting that frayed her nerves.

It was all of them combined.

At one point last month, the 37-year-old shop owner refused to open the metal shutters protecting her corner grocery in downtown Buenos Aires more than a few inches -- just enough to sell soda to passersby on a sweltering summer day.

#2 The value of the Argentine Peso is absolutely collapsing.

#3 Widespread shortages, looting and accelerating inflation are also causing huge problems in Venezuela...


Economic mismanagement in Venezuela has reached such a level that it risks inciting a violent popular reaction. Venezuela is experiencing declining export revenues, accelerating inflation and widespread shortages of basic consumer goods. At the same time, the Maduro administration has foreclosed peaceful options for Venezuelans to bring about a change in its current policies.

President Maduro, who came to power in a highly-contested election last April, has reacted to the economic crisis with interventionist and increasingly authoritarian measures. His recent orders to slash prices of goods sold in private businesses resulted in episodes of looting, which suggests a latent potential for violence. He has put the armed forces on the street to enforce his economic decrees, exposing them to popular discontent.

#4 In a stunning decision, the Venezuelan government has just announced that it has devalued the Bolivar by more than 40 percent.

#5 Brazilian stocks declined sharply on Thursday. There is a tremendous amount of concern that the economic meltdown that is happening in Argentina is going to spill over into Brazil.

#6 Ukraine is rapidly coming apart at the seams...


A tense ceasefire was announced in Kiev on the fifth day of violence, with radical protesters and riot police holding their position. Opposition leaders are negotiating with the government, but doubts remain that they will be able to stop the rioters.

#7 It appears that a bank run has begun in China...


As China's CNR reports, depositors in some of Yancheng City's largest farmers' co-operative mutual fund societies ("banks") have been unable to withdraw "hundreds of millions" in deposits in the last few weeks. "Everyone wants to borrow and no one wants to save," warned one 'salesperson', "and loan repayments are difficult to recover." There is "no money" and the doors are locked.

#8 Art Cashin of UBS is warning that credit markets in China "may be broken". For much more on this, please see my recent article entitled "The $23 Trillion Credit Bubble In China Is Starting To Collapse – Global Financial Crisis Next?"

#9 News that China's manufacturing sector is contracting shook up financial markets on Thursday...


Wall Street was rattled by a key reading on China's manufacturing which dropped below the key 50 level in January, according to HSBC. A reading below 50 on the HSBC flash manufacturing PMI suggests economic contraction.

#10 Japanese stocks experienced their biggest drop in 7 months on Thursday.

#11 The value of the Turkish Lira is absolutely collapsing.

#12 The unemployment rate in France has risen for 9 quarters in a row and recently soared to a new 16 year high.

#13 In Italy, the unemployment rate has soared to a brand new all-time record high of 12.7 percent.

#14 The unemployment rate in Spain is sitting at an all-time record high of 26.7 percent.

#15 This year, the Baltic Dry Index experienced the largest two week post-holiday decline that we have ever seen.

#16 Chipmaker Intel recently announced that it plans to eliminate 5,000 jobs over the coming year.

#17 CNBC is reporting that U.S. retailers just experienced "the worst holiday season since 2008".

#18 A recent CNBC article stated that U.S. consumers should expect a "tsunami" of store closings in the retail industry...


Get ready for the next era in retail—one that will be characterized by far fewer shops and smaller stores.

On Tuesday, Sears said that it will shutter its flagship store in downtown Chicago in April. It's the latest of about 300 store closures in the U.S. that Sears has made since 2010. The news follows announcements earlier this month of multiple store closings from major department stores J.C. Penney and Macy's.

Further signs of cuts in the industry came Wednesday, when Target said that it will eliminate 475 jobs worldwide, including some at its Minnesota headquarters, and not fill 700 empty positions.

#19 The U.S. Congress is facing another deadline to raise the debt ceiling in February.

#20 The Dow fell by more than 170 points on Thursday. It is becoming increasingly likely that "the peak of the market" is now in the rear view mirror.

And I have not even mentioned the extreme drought that has caused the U.S. cattle herd to drop to a 61 year low or the nuclear radiation from Fukushima that is washing up on the west coast.

In light of everything above, is there anyone out there that still wants to claim that "everything is going to be okay" for the global economy?

Sadly, most Americans are not even aware of most of these things.

All over the country today, the number one news headline is about Justin Bieber. The mainstream media is absolutely obsessed with celebrity scandals, and so is a very large percentage of the U.S. population.

A great economic storm is rapidly approaching, and most people don't even seem to notice the storm clouds that are gathering on the horizon.

In the end, perhaps we will get what we deserve as a nation.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/20-early-warning-signs-that-we-are-approaching-a-global-economic-meltdown

 2014/1/24 10:27









 Re: want some"politics"?

And to balance things out, Tom Frazier's "The Church in the World".

http://www.searchingtogether.org/articles/frazier/cworld.htm

 2014/1/24 11:31





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