In Gods Kingdom, Jesus is Lord, in the world satans kingdom self is lord.
Quote by armkelly: It is possible to play games Colin all day long. When will you actually address the heresy in this doctrine of entire sanctification and stop plying with words?Last post - I am not playing games, thanks for time..
_________________Colin Murray
There are lot of mistakes in this article. Let me point one by one by quoting scripture.
First, through repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ, we are converted. Our past sins are pardoned, and we are born again. After that, our sole business is to grow in grace, and by this growth to approach nearer and nearer to the standard of entire sanctification, but never even suppose that we can reach that standard until the moment of death.
If it is free from sin it cannot be more free from sin. An empty vessel, as some one has said, cannot be more empty. There can be no increase in purity.
_________________Sreeram
Brother Sree,I think you have posted a very clear and correct explanation, in particular your definition of grace. Thank you!One thing I would add to the vessel analogy is that purity is not just about being 'empty' or clean, but also being filled with the life of God. This can only come as a gift from God, which as you say is His grace to us. We are exhorted to be continually filled (Eph.5:18 is in present continuous tense), not a one time event.Blessings to you.
_________________Dave
Quote by Sree: I see 2 posters here frequently supporting on the same topic. The very fact that you have to twist few words to match your theology is a proof that it is a lie.Please point out the few words I have twisted rather than just slurring my name.Quote by Sree Death will free us from the presence of Sin. Hence we will be free from Unconscious sins after death.But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1:7Wrong death doesnt free us from unconscious sins, the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin
Quote by Sree: I see 2 posters here frequently supporting on the same topic. The very fact that you have to twist few words to match your theology is a proof that it is a lie.Please point out the few words I have twisted rather than just slurring my name.
Quote by Sree Death will free us from the presence of Sin. Hence we will be free from Unconscious sins after death.But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin 1 John 1:7Wrong death doesnt free us from unconscious sins, the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin
One thing I would add to the vessel analogy is that purity is not just about being 'empty' or clean, but also being filled with the life of God. This can only come as a gift from God, which as you say is His grace to us. We are exhorted to be continually filled (Eph.5:18 is in present continuous tense), not a one time event.
Philippians 3-12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.To understand this verse you must read the verses before and after. Philippians 3:10-15Salvation is Justification, Sanctification and GlorificationPaul starts by speaking about being made conformable unto his death and the resurrection of the dead Paul is clearly teaching here about the third part of salvation which is Glorification which he hasnt attained yet so in that sense he is not perfect.The high calling of God is the day when youre dressed in white; He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment Revelation 3:5 it is only then that we could say we are perfectly holy.However in verse 15 he makes this statement as many as be perfect, be thus minded The word perfect is holiness but in the sense that he and others are perfect (Holy).We can never can be perfectly Holy until we are Glorified, however that doesnt mean that we cannot be as Holy (perfect) as a saved sinner can be on this earth.
Paul starts by speaking about being made conformable unto his death and the resurrection of the dead Paul is clearly teaching here about the third part of salvation which is Glorification which he hasnt attained yet so in that sense he is not perfect.
We can never can be perfectly Holy until we are Glorified, however that doesnt mean that we cannot be as Holy (perfect) as a saved sinner can be on this earth.