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 President makes 'alarming call for end to Catholic education'...

Obama offends Catholics in the UK, says religious schools are divisive

The Catholic media is up in arms over comments President Obama made during a speech while in Northern Ireland for the G8 summit. Obama made what is described as “an alarming call for an end to Catholic education,” in spite of the fact that it is considered “a critical component of the Church.”

In front of an audience of about 2,000 young people, including many Catholics, Obama claimed that Catholic education divides people and blocks peace, according to the Scottish Catholic Observer.

“If towns remain divided—if Catholics have their schools and buildings and Protestants have theirs, if we can’t see ourselves in one another and fear or resentment are allowed to harden—that too encourages division and discourages cooperation,” Obama said.

Catholic World News noted:

Ironically, President Obama made his comments just as Archbishop Gerhard Müller, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, told a crowd in Scotland that religious education upholds the dignity of the human person. Archbishop Müller said that Catholic schools should promote “all that is good in the philosophies of societies and human culture.”

Fr. John Zuhlsdorf quoted the Observer’s article on Fr. Z’s blog and added:

Another example of what this man wants: total isolation of any religious values in the private sphere alone. Pres. Obama is working either to intimidate or legislate or even TAX religious freedom out of the public square.

Off the top of my head, I can’t think of a foreign visit to a Islamic nation where he told people on his arrival that they shouldn’t have madrasas. Can you?

Did he when visiting, say, Israel, say “You Jews shouldn’t have synagogue schools and you muslims shouldn’t have mosque schools.” I can’t remember. Did he?

Each of the articles drew numerous public comments, most suggesting that Obama be more concerned about the public schools in the United States than their parochial schools, which are working just fine.

 2013/6/19 18:53

 Re: President makes 'alarming call for end to Catholic education'...

Judging from the comments section it appears the love affair between the rest of the world and Obama is fading. They've got his number. With less than one term left its time for him to turn up the heat if he hopes to transform the USA. You know, "Hope and "Change". Don't be surprised at the turmoil that is coming. Marxist/Socialist playbook is to keep people agitated and society in turmoil. That is the role of a "Community Organizer".

 2013/6/19 19:29

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I little food for thought from Andrew Strom...



Years ago a friend of mine, Robert Holmes, saw a vision of Christians leaving the Harvest field to go and join in with a “Civil War”. They were leaving their primary mission (the gospel) to go and make war against their own countrymen. What does it mean and why would they do such a thing? -This was unclear.
Like a lot of you, every day I get bombarded with the latest emails against Obama - and what he is up to. I can truly understand this. Unlike a lot of overseas Christians who can’t comprehend this kind of American political partisanship, I truly get it. I lived in America for four years, and one of the things I saw clearly while living there is that America is at WAR with itself. And it is getting worse. Right against left, liberal against conservative. And there is no doubt that as an evangelical Christian, I am truly a “conservative” myself. But there is a lot that troubles me about what is going on.
When the US conservatives elected Bush, a lot of the world could not understand it. I understood it completely. America is at war with itself and Bush seemed like the most robust campaigner against the liberal agenda. It did not matter that he was not the “smartest” guy. He was strongly on “our side” in the culture war - and that is what mattered: Homosexuality, abortion, taxes, health care, and so-on. To a lot of US Christians, politics has become THE main arena where they fight and take a stand. So if I am a conservative myself, why am I so troubled by a lot of this?
Well, let me ask you some questions and hopefully you will see why:
• Is “Politics” the arena that Christians are supposed to be putting so much time and energy into fighting? Is that what the early church did?
• Aren’t we supposed to be more passionate about prayer and the gospel than we are about pulling the “liberals” down?
• Couldn’t this be a total distraction from our real mission?
• Doesn’t a lot of it amount to a giant “smear” campaign of rumor-mongering that should be beneath Christians to participate in? -In other words, isn’t the way we are speaking often gossipy, slanderous, mocking and ungodly?
• Why are prayer and the gospel taking a backseat to Obama-baiting?
• Is the Christian community in any country supposed to become a “voting bloc” for one particular party?

I think those are pretty important questions. And I think a lot of Christians may have trouble answering them.
The fact is, I get more “political” anti-Obama emails from US Christians every day than ‘spiritual’ emails. What does this say about conservative Christians? It says they care more about politics than the gospel. That is the conclusion I have to come to. And I believe this is Idolatry - pure and simple. Politics has replaced the pure milk of the word for a lot of Christians. They are on a “campaign” alright, but it is not a campaign for Jesus. And they devote hours and hours to it. They are feverishly checking out the “latest dirt” on Obama every night and hungrily devouring Fox News (which makes more and more ratings dollars as it drives every fresh controversy). They love it! There is only one problem: It is not Jesus, it is not the gospel, and a lot of it is simply not godly at all. In fact, it is replacing Jesus and replacing the gospel.
If I was the Republican Party or Fox News or Talk Radio (each hungry for more ratings and dollars - these are not Christian organizations at all) then I would absolutely LOVE the fact that the Christians are so easy to whip up into a frenzy of Obama-rumors and Obama-trash-talk. But none of this is godly, is it? It is not remotely Christian. The early church would have renounced it utterly. They took no interest in politics. They only cared about Jesus and His simple gospel. And that is still the only thing that can save America today. We are being sidetracked.
But the frenzy continues. “Did you hear the one about Obama being likened to Hitler?” ‘Did you hear the one about Obama’s birth certificate?’ ‘Did you hear the one about Obama’s “death panels”? ‘Did you hear that there are really demons in the Swine Flu vaccine?’ (canned laughter please).
A lot of this amounts to a kind-of Christian “smear” campaign. In politics much of it would be considered in the ‘dirty tricks’ category - the kind of thing you do when trying to ruin someone’s reputation with sick rumors and innuendo. No matter if it’s true or not. As long as it does the job of “smearing” the person. Is that the kind of thing Jesus would want us involved in?
Here is the truly major thing that I believe the devil is trying to do in America today:
• He is trying to create division so bitter and so extreme that both sides literally start to fight one another with guns drawn. He is trying to tear America apart.
• He is trying to sidetrack the one group that truly has the answer.
He is trying to wrap them up in fighting politics, so they will forget that the pure GOSPEL is the only real hope for America today.
I believe the devil is truly succeeding in both of the above aims.
To conclude this article, I would like to ask some questions of the Christians who spend so much time on this “Obama War”:
• Do you spend as much time spreading the pure gospel as you spend spreading stuff about Obama? Why not?
• Is your mind and your energy and your passion more focused on getting the true gospel out - or defeating Obama and the liberals in politics?
• If you were asked to turn off Fox News and delete the “Obama” emails and turn off Talk Radio, etc, could you bear it? Or are you more-or-less an “addict”?
• Do you really think it is right for this to be the big focus of your life?

I truly believe these are huge issues and huge problems in the American church today. But I guess I can expect a wave of angry disagreement in response!

Ron Halverson

 2013/6/19 20:45Profile


Great article! Absolutely right, it's not about Obama. He is just a puppet. The world is recognizing the illusion of false "messiahs". There are new ones everyday and Obama is one in a very long line. What's important is to know the times and seasons and not be surprised when you have lost all your "freedoms" (which are just an illusion in this life, anyway).

True freedom is in Christ and definitely not politics.

 2013/6/20 7:54

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 Re: President makes 'alarming call for end to Catholic education'...

I find it very interesting that Catholics are now the brunt of anti-Christianity rhetoric. Big as they are they would have the financial resources, manpower to fight it.

They were the ones who took it upon themselves to alert the world about the evils of abortion. When AB was being touted as essential for the well-being of the mother, evangelicals, other conservative Christians were silent - they were ignorant and said little or nothing. (Many in our church were ignorant of the issue until I became involved in it 26 years ago.)This was the norm back before Roe vs Wade. It was not until Everett Koop, Harold O.J. Brown, Billy Graham, Francis Schaeffer joined together to alert evangelicals about the sinfulness of Ab that they became interested in the issue but Catholics led the way.

God uses all kinds of people to teach us.

Just a few facts from history.

Sandra Miller

 2013/6/20 9:28Profile

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