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dohzman
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 NEED HELP

I have looked all over this site and others but can't find materials on the passover -- expository material or something in print I can read in pdf. Thank you for any websites, messages or writtings you guys could point me to. I really appreciate you all. Brother Daryl


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D.Miller

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 Re: NEED HELP

Rather than searching for "Passover" try searching for "Seder", there should be a couple of website that will give you the specs on how to host a Messicanic Passover complete with Haggadah and Messicanicly (is that a word?) fulfilled scriptures.
There are also seveal books that you can find info in: Celebrating the Holy Days by Zimmerman, Passover Seder by Thompson are both good if you are actually intrested in hosting one. However for info about how incrediblely awesome all the signs of Jesus are in a passover try Christ in the Passover by Cecil Rosen or just about any Haggadah (or telling).
i have actually held one an have a copy of the Hagadah at my home, i can put it in PDF if you like. (or anyone else for that matter). There is also a website (I cannot remember the address right now. .it is also at home), but it actually allows you to download the prayers in Hebrew (which is very cool) so thnat when you pray the blessings over each cup and pver each course during the Haggadah you can say them in Hebrew.

Was there anything specfic that you were wondering about the Passover? The Oficoman (spelled WRONG) is actually the coolest part. You have three pieces of Matzah (who orthadox Jews believe are Abraham, Isasc and Jakob) We know them to be the Father, the Son the Holy Ghost. The middle piece is broken in half and one part is placed in a folded napkin and hidden. The children then search for it and when it is found they recieve a reward. There is also a lot about the bread. . it is striped (Isa. 53), it is brown or bruised in some places, it is full of holes or pierced. . .some really cool and amazing things. Let me know if you want that Haggadah or if i can help you in any way. (Passover excites me! I love Israel! Let us all pray for the Peace of Jerusalem!)


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David

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 Re: Passover

Here's a bit;

Exo 12:11 And thus shall ye eat it; with your loins girded, your shoes on your feet, and your staff in your hand; and ye shall eat it in haste: it is the LORD'S passover.

[b]Exo 12:1-51 -
The following commentary covers Chapters 5 through 13.[/b]

At the news of the goodness of God, the people adore Him; but the struggle against the power of evil is another matter. Satan will not let the people go, and God permits this resistance, for the exercise of faith, and for the discipline of His people, and for the brilliant display of His power where Satan had reigned. We have to learn, and perhaps painfully, that we are in the flesh and under Satan's power; and that we have no power to effect our own deliverance, even with the help of God. It is the redemption of God in Christ's death and resurrection, realised in the power of the Spirit given when He had accomplished that redemption and had sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens, that delivers; for forgiveness, and escape from judgment, is not deliverance. One refers to sins and God's righteously passing over them, the other to sin and its power.

Before the deliverance, when the hopes of the people are now awakened, the oppression becomes heavier than ever, and the people would have preferred being left quiet in their slavery. But the rights and counsels of God are in question. The people must be thoroughly detached from these Gentiles, who, to this end, are now become their torment under God's hand. Moses works signs. The magicians imitate them by the power of Satan, in order to harden Pharaoh's heart. But when the question is of creating life, they are forced to recognise the hand of God.

At last God executes His judgment, taking the firstborn as representatives of all the people. We have thus two parts in the deliverance of the people; in one, God appears as Judge, but satisfied through the blood that is before Him; in the other, He manifests Himself as Deliverer. Up to this last, the people are still in Egypt. In the first, the expiatory blood of redemption bars the way to Him as Judge, and it secures the people infallibly; but God does not enter within-its value is to secure them from judgment [1].

The people, their loins girded, having eaten in haste, with the bitter herbs of repentance, begin their journey; but they do so in Egypt: yet now God can be, and He is, with them. Here it is well to distinguish these two judgments, that of the firstborn, and that of the Red Sea. As matters of chastisement, the one was the firstfruits of the other, and ought to have deterred Pharaoh from his rash pursuit. But the blood, which kept the people from God's judgment, meant something far deeper and far more serious than even the Red Sea, though judgment was executed there too [2].

What happened at the Red Sea was, it is true, the manifestation of the illustrious power of God, who destroyed with the breath of His mouth the enemy who stood in rebellion against Him-final and destructive judgment in its character, no doubt, and which effected the deliverance of His people by His power. But the blood signified the moral judgment of God, and the full and entire satisfaction of all that was in His being. God, such as He was, in His justice, His holiness, and His truth, could not touch those who were sheltered by that blood [3].

Was there sin? His love towards His people had found the means of satisfying the requirements of His justice; and at the sight of that blood, which answered everything that was perfect in His being, He passed over it consistently with His justice and even His truth. Nevertheless God, even in passing over, is seen as Judge; hence, so long as the soul is on this ground, its peace is uncertain though the ground of it be sure-its way in Egypt, being all the while truly converted-because God has still the character of Judge to it, and the power of the enemy is still there.

Note #1
Note here the expression, "When I see the blood, I will pass over." It is not said, when you see it, but when I see it. The soul of an awakened person often rests, not on its own righteousness, but on the way in which it sees the blood. Now, precious as it is to have the heart deeply impressed with it, this is not the ground of peace. Peace is founded on God's seeing it. He cannot fail to estimate it at its full and perfect value as putting away sin. It is He that abhors and has been offended by sin; He sees the value of the blood as putting it away. It may be said,. But must I not have faith in its value? This is faith in its value, seeing that God looks at it as putting away sin; your value for it looks at it as a question of the measure of your feelings. Faith looks at God's thoughts.

Note #2
As a figure this may be looked at as final judgment according to the estimate of sin in the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus; for the people were brought to God, and the evil enemies come under death and judgment which, as accomplished in Christ, save us. But as the secret of God's dealings experimentally known in our souls, it has another sense; it begins the desert journey, though that has its full character only from Sinai. The path in the wilderness forming no part of the counsels, but only of the ways of God; it may as to redemption be dropped but then Jordan and the Red Sea coalesce. The Red Sea is Christ's death and resurrection for us; Jordan our death and resurrection with Him, but here we have got into what is experimental.

Note #3
There is further a difference between the passover and the great day of atonement. Here the blood met the eye of God passing through the land in judgment. On the great day of atonement it purified His habitation from our defilements, and, we can say, opened up the way to God's throne and presence; gave us boldness to enter into the holiest by a new and living way. In the passover was added, as it had the character of first deliverance and forgiveness, the bitter herbs of judgment of sin in ourselves, and feeding on the slain Lamb, with loins girded and shoes on our feet, to leave the place of sin and judgment from which as the consequence of sin we had been fully sheltered.

From
John Darby's Synopsis

If you haven't or for others, highly recommended:
http://www.e-sword.net/


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Mike Balog

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 Re: NEED HELP

Here's a couple of links to a family based web site that has some excellent resources on biblical holidays including Passover, you may find some of the information there helpful.

[url=http://homeschoolunitstudies.com/Acrobat/bhpassover.pdf]PDF file of a chapter on Passover from a book titled 'A Family Guide to Biblical Holidays [/url]

[url=http://biblicalholidays.com/passover.htm]Biblical Holidays.com Passover page[/url]

In Christ,

Ron


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Ron Halverson

 2005/3/4 9:18Profile
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yes there was something specific.iI was looking for a complete discription of each part of the event and how it relates to Jesus Christ and also where the hebrews got some of thier traditions that they have implimented into the passover over the centuries. I wanted to thank you for your response it's very much appreciated.


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D.Miller

 2005/3/4 20:46Profile
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 Re: Thank you

Forgot about e-sword , went and downloaded that file, thank you


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D.Miller

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 Re: Got it

I downloaded that first 20 pages they offered and printed it out. Thank you. Most pdf 's I print out---seems its easier for me to read a hard copy of something rather than on the computer screen. Again thank you.


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D.Miller

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 Passover gleanings

Think it would be safe to say the pleasure is ours.

Would be interesting to hear your impressions out of all this somewhere down the line.


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Mike Balog

 2005/3/5 8:23Profile
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 Re: Passover gleanings

Here's why I requested. A friend is teaching a class and asked for help with materials. So I did what I could but it seemed as nothing.Most of the books in my library have wonderful information on the passover but its more like trying to gleen than an exhaustive study.I did a search on the word seder and that was a great help.Alot there, but Ron's link to The Family Guide to Biblical Holidays was priceless.I'll be getting the books suggessted and this whole experience has been really good for me too.I generally don't like to give something to someone unless I read it or hear it first. As you know most evangelists don't key in on the passover in an exhaustive sense, we might brush on it and highlite the basic points but? It did remind me to get back into some of the Jewish studies I did like 20 years ago.I'll keep you posted as my friends study unfolds,BTW--- its a study with a group of "christians" who have no real love for the jewish people (or maybe it's just because they don't understand them), anyway it'll be interesting to see how it turns out. God Bless Bro. Daryl


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