SermonIndex Audio Sermons
Image Map
Discussion Forum : News and Current Events : Secession petitions filed in 20 states

Print Thread (PDF)

Goto page ( Previous Page 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 Next Page )
PosterThread









 Re:

Because they feel like they are not being heard. They vote... and it makes no difference whatsoever. It's that simple. The South's interests are not the same as the Northeast, or California's. Therefore they feel like someone else's interests are being forced upon them.

And I doubt it's just in the South. I'm sure the mid-west and western states feel much the same way.

Krispy

 2012/11/13 14:18









 Re:

Quote:
Where do I sign??

Krispy



same place you signed up to join the 82nd airborne, or was it the 101st?...i forget now.

anyone who preaches seccession is in rebellion to the United States of America.

if any of these traitors have a problem with the election, get a better candidate next election cycle..like say Chris Christie.....and dont give this fly over red state nonsense, all 12 rurals counties around me, my county with a pop of 28,000, all 12 voted blue.

i'm an abolitionist pardner, the township i live in? was a major stop on the "underground railroad"..and i KNOW the real reason ya'll are set off, but none of you has the stones to admit it.

 2012/11/13 14:24
elias7291
Member



Joined: 2011/12/7
Posts: 73
Los Angeles

 Re:

I think seceding is the total demonstration that one hates america.

And i would disagree with you brother krispy. As much as the federal govt has expanded its power since the new deal, states still retain many rights and the SC has affirmed this. For example, i believe that it was in a souther state that voters voted on whether to limit Obamacare in their state. im not sure if it passed and of course the federal govt can challenge that but this is nonetheless an example of a state retaining a right.

Additionally, there are electoral cycles in which one party becomes the majority in one election and becomes the minority in the next. This has happened since the founding of the nation really and the most notable examples were Republicans have regained control of congress were in 1994 and 2010. Granted in 2010 they only won the House, but that in itself is significant. And a large part of this has to do with grassroots organization, namely the tea party.
So to say that their voices are not being heard is baseless. DOMA is still law and that was passed during the Clinton years for example (but Obama will no longer defend it, but this can change with a change of administrations). Bush was President for 8 years. Conservatives' voices were heard.

Elias


_________________
Elias

 2012/11/13 14:25Profile









 Re:

Another pot shot, Neil? Glad to see you have that forgiveness thing down so well.

Krispy

 2012/11/13 14:26









 Re:

Quote:
Because they feel like they are not being heard. They vote... and it makes no difference whatsoever. It's that simple. The South's interests are not the same as the Northeast, or California's. Therefore they feel like someone else's interests are being forced upon them.

And I doubt it's just in the South. I'm sure the mid-west and western states feel much the same way.

Krispy



what are the "south's" interests?....the 'good ole days", hmm?

 2012/11/13 14:27









 Re:

Elias... dont misunderstand. In all seriousness I am not for any state seceding. Its not the way to solve the issues, and no one state can survive without the others.

You asked why some states feel that way, and I'm simply explaining why. They feel like their vote doesnt matter anymore.

Krispy

 2012/11/13 14:28









 Re:

No Neil... North Carolina voted down gay marriage, for instance. Almost all the Northeastern states have made it legal.

Now we've re-elected a President who has openly stated that he is also in favor of gay marriage. it wont be long before that decision is taken away from the states, and the federal government will mandate to the states what they are to do in regards to gay marriage.

Thats just one example.

Krispy

 2012/11/13 14:30
elias7291
Member



Joined: 2011/12/7
Posts: 73
Los Angeles

 Re:

No malice brother. and forgive me if i sound a bit rude.


_________________
Elias

 2012/11/13 14:30Profile









 Re:

No no Elias... the pot shot comment was intended for Neil, not you.

Krispy

 2012/11/13 14:32









 Re:

Quote:
Another pot shot. Glad to see you have that forgiveness thing down so well.

Krispy



forgiveness comes when the petitioner TURNS from their former ways.....and you havent, that is as clear as DAY.

"where do i sign up?"

for what?...secession?.....you know what that means? armed violent rebellion against your countrymen.

you aint turned, another way of saying turned is to REPENT. i remember post after post, where you were 'oorahing" the war in Iraq 2003, saying you could, coz you "served in Desert Storm"...and "you earned that right"....i'd take you 7 miles down the road, visit a young friend of mine, got his bell rung but good in Iraq, and you go tell him, how you was for President Bush sending hundreds of thousands of guys just like him to fight in war that was WRONG!

and now you aint changed, "where do i sign"?

i was 18 years of age, when i wore the uniform, entrusted with not only forward looking defense on the Korean peninsula, but with top military secrets...served with honor, and i KNOW a chickenhawk when i see one.

 2012/11/13 14:36





©2002-2020 SermonIndex.net
Promoting Genuine Biblical Revival.
Affiliate Disclosure | Privacy Policy