My sister as I understand the New Testament. One receives tbe Holy Spirit st salvation. And there has to be a continual daily filling of that Holy Spirit. It is like you buy a new car with a full tank if gas. When tbe gas runs out. You still have to fill the tank though tbe car may still be new. So it is with us. We are still new creations kn Christ. But we still need to be filled with Jesus on s daily basis.Bearmadter.
By dear brother bear,Regarding Finney, the revival was hardly in full force when he was converted. And regarding Moody, here is the story of his baptism of the Holy Spirit if you care to know. "The secret of why God used D. L. Moody was that, he had a very definite enduement with power from on High, a very clear and definite baptism with the Holy Ghost. Mr. Moody knew he had the baptism with the Holy Ghost, he had no doubt about it. In his early days he was a great hustler, he had a tremendous desire to do something, but he had no real power. He worked very largely in the energy of the flesh. But there were two humble Free Methodist women who used to come over to his meetings in the Y. M. C. A. One was Auntie Cook and the other, Mrs. Snow. (I think her name was not Snow at that time.) These two women would come to Mr. Moody at the close of his meetings and say: We are praying for you. Finally, Mr. Moody became somewhat nettled and said to them one night: Why are you praying for me? Why dont you pray for the unsaved? They replied: We are praying that you may get the power. Mr. Moody did not know what that meant, but he got to thinking about it, and then went to these women and said: I wish you would tell me what you mean, and they told him about the definite baptism with the Holy Ghost. Then he asked that he might pray with them and not they merely pray for him.Auntie Cook once told me of the intense fervor with which Mr. Moody prayed on that occasion. She told me in words that I scarcely dare repeat, though I have never forgotten them. And he not only prayed with them, but he also prayed alone. Not long after, one day on his way to England, he was walking up Wall Street in New York (Mr. Moody very seldom told this and I almost hesitate to tell it) and in the midst of the bustle and hurry of that city his prayer was answered; the power of God fell upon him as he walked up the street and he had to hurry off to the house of a friend and ask that he might have a room by himself, and in that room he stayed alone for hours; and the Holy Ghost came upon him filling his soul with such joy that at last he had to ask God to withhold His hand, lest he die on the spot from very joy. He went out from that place with the power of the Holy Ghost upon him, and when he got to London (partly through the prayers of a bedridden saint in Mr. Lesseys church), the power of God wrought through him mightily in North London, and hundreds were added to the churches, and that was what led to his being invited over to the wonderful campaign that followed in later years."Lastly brother, I commend you for being in the Word daily. Bless you for that, but please do not despise the baptism of the Holy Spirit or imagine you have it if you do not.
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quote "It is like you buy a new car with a full tank if gas"I like you illustration,Does that mean there was a time when you had a full tank but let it run out.I 'd like to hear about that.Would you mind sharing?
Yes, my sister, there are days, like that new car, my tank always runs dry. Then my walk with Jesus s one.of tbe flesh. Again going to the new car analogy. If I do not watch the guage and go to tbe gas pump at an appropriate time to fill up. That car runs dry. Then I wind up having to push tbe car. That would be exhausting. Pushing tbe car would bei the saint walking in tbe flesh. Thus things like prayer, tbe word, evangelism become drudgery and dutyAn example. You know I moderate con calls. If I have not spent sufficient time in prayer and the word. Bring filled with Jesus. The calls become fkeshly. Or my leadership of the calls become fleshly. I feel tbe emptiness in ny soul. Thus I crave the filling of Jesus. To be filled with Jesus requires I spend extended time with him in tbe word and prayer. As Moody said. To fill a broken bucket. You need to stay close to tbe faucet.Even Jesus had to go for those alone times with tbe Father to be filled by him. If Jesus needed to be filled. How much mire do we need to be filled.Hope this encourages you.Bearmaster. .
What can I say, brotherAMEN to your last post.By the way, I am not unti babes nor anti babes:D
BumpPost by unto babesFor all those who believe they are already filled with the Holy Spirit, Please answer these questions.Are you wholly consumed with God and the lost world.Have you given the gospel to every one you know, your neighbors, loved ones and are you known by your surroundings as the "Gospel freak"When you talk of Christ and salvation, is there life to your words that bring conviction of sin and reveal Christ to the lost. Can you tell the sick physically and spiritually: Silver and Gold I have not but that which I have I give to you, in the name of Jesus Christ the Lord, get up and walk.Do you get up in the middle of the night with anguish and burden knowing that during your sleeping hours thousands of souls dying and perishing for eternity.Is your prayer daring as to plead with God: " Give me America or take my life, save the souls of my loved ones or take my soul".Are you absolutely consumed with the things of God? Does He trust you with His heart burden? Are you standing in the gap? Is this you food and drink?If these things are not true of you, then at least humbly admit it and ask God for the fulness of His Holy Spirit
_________________Colin Murray