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 What would Richard Wurmbrand say?

https://rt.com/news/fbi-antisec-apple-leak-342/

 2012/9/4 11:13Profile
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From the article:

A hacktivist group associated with Anonymous claims it has lifted over 12 million Apple Unique Device Identifiers (UDIDs) from an FBI computer and released 1 million of them as an archive. The leaked data includes names, phone numbers and addresses.

“During the second week of March 2012, a Dell Vostro notebook, used by Supervisor Special Agent Christopher K. Stangl from FBI Regional Cyber Action Team and New York FBI Office Evidence Response Team was breached using the AtomicReferenceArray vulnerability on Java,” boasts the hacking group.
AntiSec’s archive lists 1,000,001 profiles including user names, devices names, cell phone numbers and addresses. The data was originally picked from Apple iOS devices, namely iPhones, iPads and iPods.

Anonymous and Co. enjoy interfering with the US Federal Investigative Bureau; several arrests in their ranks have only boosted the hactivists’ efforts to that end. The group has even been reported to have eavesdropped on the FBI’s anti-Anonymous meeting.


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It is dis-concerting that such information is kept by the FBI to start with. I believe any highly secretive or important information should be stored on a USB key not the computer. There are some good services that allow for private communication if needed such as: https://www.encryptfish.com


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 2012/9/4 12:08Profile
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Ok, Greg, I am not a computer expert like you - do not even come close. So, I do have a question.

I do buy online like Amazon and using PayPal on occasion. PayPal requires one to type their password before each and every purchase before it can be accessed. Does this article mean it could harvest even that info? Or, how about Amazon who will withdraw from our bank accounts?

What say?


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 2012/9/4 12:54Profile
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Hi Ginny,

That's a similar but different problem. Amazon stores all kinds of information about you including your entire buying history as well as all the things you have browsed at their store. Like Facebook, it could be an incredible source of information about you when persecution comes. Amazon and iTunes (in all it's capacities) is geared toward our greed and lusts. Your credit card or bank account information is the least of your concerns. After all, food and raiment is enough.

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That's a similar but different problem. Amazon stores all kinds of information about you including your entire buying history as well as all the things you have browsed at their store. Like Facebook, it could be an incredible source of information about you when persecution comes. Amazon and iTunes (in all it's capacities) is geared toward our greed and lusts. Your credit card or bank account information is the least of your concerns. After all, food and raiment is enough.



Agreed. Apple computers are more secure than PC computers yet we should always be careful typing in sensitive information.


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 2012/9/4 13:27Profile
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"Your credit card or bank account information is the least of your concerns."
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Maybe so.

I do not care if people see what I purchased from Amazon or elsewhere - we have nothing to hide. There are no big ticket items, more are consumable products. It is people accessing our accounts that I am concerned about.

Fourteen years ago someone stole a box of our checks from FedEx. Fortunately, for us a bookkeeper at our bank caught that something was amiss when the signatures of returned checks did not look like mine or my husbands. As a result no moneys were withdrawn from our account BUT it did effect our ratings with check-cashing clearinghouse companies. No matter how many copies of affidavits were sent they still worked hard to collect. I promise you this is not fun! We had to close this checking account; my husband's name was blacklisted in the city nearby that got to be embarrassing when he wrote a check - even from another account, but I could - same account, same check...Go figure. Hence my concern.


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Greg, your practice of actually copying key parts of the text into the post is noted. Will do next time.

My concern is this: just how underground can a church be if it is so easy to track you online. Not just your browsing habits at SI, or downloads of sermons etc, but if your iphone etc is easy to compromise too, where's the need to torture you to give up names of people in your church. . .

I want people to begin to understand better just how 'naked' you are online.

Like Greg says, keep sensitive information somewhere apart from your computer and from the internet. If you can afford it, buy an extra little mini pc/mac that you never connect to the internet, and keep all your sensitive information on there.. .encrypt it and hide the machine somewhere safe.

One step better? Just use a notebook and pencil (maybe that's what Richard Wurmbrand might say. . .)

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My concern is this: just how underground can a church be if it is so easy to track you online. Not just your browsing habits at SI, or downloads of sermons etc, but if your iphone etc is easy to compromise too, where's the need to torture you to give up names of people in your church. . .



Great thoughts. Though the internet is a very powerful networking tool any true underground church would never work online. It must be done as you said with pencil and paper. I have my name and information on so many sites to go and try and delete them would be a full-time job for one year :)!

The bigger concern is with Google+ which tracks all your searches and customizes them, also Gmail tracks all the emails also in the same way and provides unique resources. Also facebook uses data in this way too so if one uses, google, Facebook and gmail they really have submitted all their preferences, searches and ideas that will always be stored and associated with their name.

This search engine does not use search information or store any information. I have used it a few times:

http://duckduckgo.com

http://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html


I personally just had a glitch happen with my apple computer and considered the possibility of myself being hacked ie my own computer.


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Though the internet is a very powerful networking tool any true underground church would never work online. It must be done as you said with pencil and paper. I have my name and information on so many sites to go and try and delete them would be a full-time job for one year :)!

The bigger concern is with Google+ which tracks all your searches and customizes them, also Gmail tracks all the emails also in the same way and provides unique resources. Also facebook uses data in this way too so if one uses, google, Facebook and gmail they really have submitted all their preferences, searches and ideas that will always be stored and associated with their name. SermonIndex.



There are client-side programs freely avaliable which can block most of the monitoring which google undertakes. There are also service providers and internet specialist companies which can search every single publically avaliable ARPA server and remove your information as a requirement of law. This service costs a few dollars but it works away on your behalf and reports its findings on a regular basis.

 2012/9/5 2:34





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